Todays Games

[Eddie]

Just me or is there something a bit weird about singing “Wembley again, ole ole” when you got beat there first time around.

Players jumping around on the pitch singing it - hardly a happy hunting ground.

[Duck Egg]

Feckin Celtic get a VAR assisted penalty in the last minute. Cheating fecks 

[Zico]

La liga

Relegation battle could maybe go up to 8th currently (not checked the fixtures as I'm sure some will be playing each other which means not all of them can go down)

 

[RUREADY2ROLL]

2 minutes ago, Duck Egg said:

Feckin Celtic get a VAR assisted penalty in the last minute. Cheating fecks 

Never a fucking pen; fuck football 

[Zico]

20 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Totally out of the blue - but that la Liga relegation scrap is something else. Not seen a table like that for a while 

Aye, mental

[London Wanderer]

Massive goal that

 stays a draw & Celtic needed to win by 3 or 4. Now it’s just a win.

 Looked a pen with his hand jumping towards the ball, but they’re never given without VAR.

 Gutted but I just can’t see Hearts doing it. Momentum with Celtic now.

 The consolation in it all is Rangers have crumbled yet again . 

 Incredible drama. Much more enjoyable than the PL is currently. 
 

[Leyther_Matt]

[London Wanderer]

Looked again

 never a pen 

[RUREADY2ROLL]

20 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Looked again

 never a pen 

He heads it and it never touches his hand; VAR allows cheating 

[Tombwfc]

Making league deciding decisions based on a single camera angle zoomed in & pixelated to fuck. Absolutely farcical.

It may have hit his hand, but there's absolutely no way you can be certain based on that video. And so to effectively award the win to Celtic is abysmal.

[bolty58]

6 hours ago, Zico said:

Aye

On the other hand 

What a way to break the old firm domination by getting a result at their place

Be very pleasantly surprised if it happens 

Here's hoping

What a fucking awful decision that penalty one was. I suspect corruption. Big Jock knew.

[bolty58]

5 hours ago, Duck Egg said:

Feckin Celtic get a VAR assisted penalty in the last minute. Cheating fecks 

That was truly disgraceful. There is no way the ball flies away in the opposite direction like that from bouncing against a blokes hand. A clear, decisive defensive header.

They have all the money up there these days. They are clearly using it.

[gonzo]

Look how fast and high the ball went ffs.

It's a bounce of the heed. 

[Leyther_Matt]

Shouldn’t have had his hand there, daft sod

[Stig]

VAR is now apparently for guesswork, rather than clear and obvious 

[gonzo]

25 minutes ago, Leyther_Matt said:

Shouldn’t have had his hand there, daft sod

It was being shoved up by the blokes shoulder infront 🤦‍♂️

[boogs]

[Zico]

25 minutes ago, Leyther_Matt said:

Shouldn’t have had his hand there, daft sod

Aye

Not sure the speed and direction of the ball confirms anything either 

As always though, it's not clear and obvious but they've give it anyway 

[gonzo]

9 minutes ago, Stig said:

VAR is now apparently for guesswork, rather than clear and obvious 

Its stolen everything we love about the game.

 

[Rizlar]

Var is killing the game you can’t even celebrate until they have checked the goal is ridiculous 

[Eddie]

30 minutes ago, Rizlar said:

Var is killing the game you can’t even celebrate until they have checked the goal is ridiculous 

This is and has always been my biggest issue with it.

The problems with whether clear or obvious etc. and mistakes being made are obviously bad and reflect poorly on it, but football is what it is because of that moment of euphoria when a goal goes in - an instantaneous feeling that cannot be replicated. The result, seeing where you are in the league through the week and everything else that goes with it is interesting but it’s that goal celebration that means it’s the most loved sport all around the world.

VAR takes that away, it’s a cautious initial reaction with the doubt in your mind or a delayed celebration of some words on a screen - neither of which have anywhere near the same euphoria attached.

Anyone that understands the game properly from a supporters point of view should have realised that and stopped any further discussions once it got raised. It can be improved all they want, it can be 100% accurate (it actually can’t but for sake of argument) but it will always have that fundamental flaw.

[Tombwfc]

1 hour ago, Stig said:

VAR is now apparently for guesswork, rather than clear and obvious 

 

Aye. I think it probably does hit his hand as well as his head, but nobody said this was coming in for 'probably'. 

[Barnstoneworth White]

26 minutes ago, Tombwfc said:

 

Aye. I think it probably does hit his hand as well as his head, but nobody said this was coming in for 'probably'. 

Even if it does hit his hand, it does not make his body shape any bigger and therefore shouldn't be awarded under the current rules, according to a part-time ref who's just been on TS.

[Tombwfc]

17 minutes ago, Barnstoneworth White said:

Even if it does hit his hand, it does not make his body shape any bigger and therefore shouldn't be awarded under the current rules, according to a part-time ref who's just been on TS.

 

I think he's mistaken, unless the rules have changed again. Hand or arm above shoulder height is handball.

https://www.scottishfa.co.uk/news/updates-to-laws-of-the-game-2019-20/

It's pretty hard to argue that a hand on or just above your head wouldn't make your body shape bigger anyway. Unless you're trying to wind up Peter Shilton.

[L/H White]

it's the worst thing that's ever happened to the game VAR

it has to be stopped