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[frank_spencer]

10 minutes ago, waffer cup 07 said:

What an absolute joke when a side that could finish in the bottom 4 and having their worst season for years, could qualify for the chamoions league.

It'd be funny if neither spurs or united made it to the 'magical 40 point mark' that's the target for teams worried about relegation 

[Zico]

1 hour ago, waffer cup 07 said:

What an absolute joke when a side that could finish in the bottom 4 and having their worst season for years, could qualify for the chamoions league.

The joke started when they let teams who weren't champions in

[L/H White]

3 tiers of European football is just a joke 

 

[gonzo]

1 minute ago, L/H White said:

3 tiers of European football is just a joke 

 

You weren't saying that bumming brasses in Bulgaria lad.

[L/H White]

4 minutes ago, gonzo said:

You weren't saying that bumming brasses in Bulgaria lad.

Correct, but a 3rd is just proper tinpot

I'll not be convinced otherwise 

[DazBob]

3 hours ago, L/H White said:

3 tiers of European football is just a joke 

 

No it's not.

We had that for years and years.

European Cup, Cup Winners Cup, UEFA Cup.

We were all happy with that.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

7 hours ago, DazBob said:

No it's not.

We had that for years and years.

European Cup, Cup Winners Cup, UEFA Cup.

We were all happy with that.

Fair point.

I suppose pissing around with the premier one, so that it isn't just about league winners, devalues it, which subsequently devalues the others.

 

[Zico]

No problem with it in theory

It's sort of like the Nations League in that in that it pits the top teams against each other and gives the smaller clubs from weaker leagues a chance to play for something rather than just being whipping boys 

It's just a bit shit when a team like Chelsea get to the final playing their brunch warmers 

I'd personally love a go at the conference league if we got back in the PL

And I'm sure West ham fans enjoyed winning it

[Not in Crawley]

In theory it's a great idea. It was supposed to be for teams in leagues outside the top to play each other in a good European competition. 

The issue is the PL is too rich - West Ham are something like the 16th richest club in the world as bonkers as that sounds. I mention this because they are not minnows and they won it.

It'll be nothing but English champs (with the odd German one) for the foreseeable which is just daft.

 

[L/H White]

9 hours ago, DazBob said:

No it's not.

We had that for years and years.

European Cup, Cup Winners Cup, UEFA Cup.

We were all happy with that.

It rewards failure 

[Not in Crawley]

1 minute ago, L/H White said:

It rewards failure 

Nope - it's supposed to give teams outside the top decent European competition. The fact that the PL devalues it by its very nature isn't the fault of the competition itself.

You're looking at it from just an English/top club point of view. Look at the clubs who have been involved. I'd say it's one of the better ideas of the last few years.

https://www.uefa.com/uefaconferenceleague/clubs/

 

[L/H White]

1 minute ago, Not in Crawley said:

Nope - it's supposed to give teams outside the top decent European competition. The fact that the PL devalues it by its very nature isn't the fault of the competition itself.

You're looking at it from just an English/top club point of view. Look at the clubs who have been involved. I'd say it's one of the better ideas of the last few years.

https://www.uefa.com/uefaconferenceleague/clubs/

 

You'll not change my mind 

 

[Not in Crawley]

Just now, L/H White said:

You'll not change my mind 

 

I wasn't trying to. Just offering a different perspective.

[Traf]

Soon there'll be more PL teams in Europe than not.

[Zico]

Just now, Traf said:

Soon there'll be more PL teams in Europe than not.

What will it be next season 

6 in the CL 

2 in EL

1 in ECL

?

[Traf]

Just now, Zico said:

6 in the CL 

That's the piss-take right there. 6 'champions'

[L/H White]

8 minutes ago, Traf said:

Soon there'll be more PL teams in Europe than not.

Yep, absolute joke, Europe should be the pinnacle for a club, now it's just devalued shite, again, rewards failure for being shite in the league 

IMO

[Wanderlust]

If we ever got back into any European competition I’d be delighted.

[bolty58]

26 minutes ago, L/H White said:

Yep, absolute joke, Europe should be the pinnacle for a club, now it's just devalued shite, again, rewards failure for being shite in the league 

IMO

We are all entitled to one. If I was a Chelsea fan and they beat Betis I'd still be ecstatic.

If we won it I'd probably have a euphoric heart attack.

Keep dreaming of impossible quads pal.

 

[L/H White]

6 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

We are all entitled to one. If I was a Chelsea fan and they beat Betis I'd still be ecstatic.

If we won it I'd probably have a euphoric heart attack.

Keep dreaming of impossible quads pal.

 

Don't get me wrong if we was to ever do it again I'll be on the first flight to whatever 3rd world shit hole we end up in 

Point stands tho

Edited May 10, 2025 by L/H White

[SalCity Biggie]

I think it should go to the league winner, FA cup winner and the other one that changes it's name every other season (milk/league/coca cola) cup. They have won something and should get three spots.

 

But if course, it's all about making money, so the more they have in the better they see it.

[tomski]

It’s funny it was called European cup when it was for champions. Now vice versa.

Ive no issue with it. Once it wasn’t just for champions the game was up and now it’s become something else. 

I like the conference league. So little can be won over a season. If you have a chance then it should just be enjoyed.

my only caveat is the b team cup. It’s shite but I still went to the final. 
 

 

[tomski]

24 minutes ago, SalCity Biggie said:

I think it should go to the league winner, FA cup winner and the other one that changes it's name every other season (milk/league/coca cola) cup. They have won something and should get three spots.

 

But if course, it's all about making money, so the more they have in the better they see it.

Agree. I do wonder if the values of the cups/prize money would increase to reflect the big prize of qualifying.

My understanding is the PL wouldn’t entertain giving a place up for cup winners.

[gonzo]

Think over half the German league were in some form of European tournament last season.

[bwfc2003]

1 hour ago, Traf said:

That's the piss-take right there. 6 'champions'

Of which one of the English teams will have finished just outside the relegation places