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Blueberry is my preferred flavour, but some bloke at work gave me a bottle of bubblegum menthol, and it's lasting forever.

 

Yes, I'm a fag, but at least I don't stink of them any more.

 

Anyone else using one?

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The strange thing is, the adverts all used to say it isn't smoke, it's water vapour. The reality is, the liquid used isn't water, it's a light oil. Therefore it can't be water vapour, it is oil vapour.

Have you noticed how long the "vapour" lasts once it's exhaled? Show me a kettle where the vapour lasts more than a second or two.

Also, as it's oil, not water, it'll be similar to the stuff that we used to use in training at work. Oil is sprayed onto a hot plate and it creates a lot of smoke. We stopped using it when we found out the oil vapour was carcinogenic.

 

And you're putting this stuff in your lungs to save you putting smoke from tobacco; which is widely known to also be a carcinogen.

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Oh well. Pretty sure its not the same type of oil you used to spray on hot plates at work (for whatever reason you did that), but never mind. Its cheaper and smells better than cigarettes. Most studies say it's ~90% less toxic too. For the moment I'll stick with it, rather than go back to the fags. Cheers for your input though mickey.

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Oh well. Pretty sure its not the same type of oil you used to spray on hot plates at work (for whatever reason you did that), but never mind. Its cheaper and smells better than cigarettes. Most studies say it's ~90% less toxic too. For the moment I'll stick with it, rather than go back to the fags. Cheers for your input though mickey.

 

Who do you reckon do the reports from these studies?

 

The oil on hot plates is how to make lots of smoke. They used it in discos. It is just a much larger scale smoke generator than your electronic cig.

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Strawberry and blackcurrant are my flavours. And it has to be Totally Wicked oils. I find other brands taste burned too early and I have to replace the atomiser

 

I used to know a bloke who is a respiratory consultant in Leeds very well. Talking to him about it he said that inhaling anything other than fresh air into your lungs is bad news but given the choice of fags and ecigs he would recommend ecigs every time. It's the lesser of two evils. Neither is good but ecigs don't contain the shit that fags do. It's not the smoke as such from fags it's all the shit that's contained within the tobacco he reckons

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Who do you reckon do the reports from these studies?

 

The oil on hot plates is how to make lots of smoke. They used it in discos. It is just a much larger scale smoke generator than your electronic cig.

 

NHS studies say they're 95% safer than tobacco. They might be wrong. Who would you trust?

 

Are you suggesting people would be better off sticking to cigarettes?

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They fucking stink. 

 

Mind you, so do cigs

 

Cigs are worse by a long way, and I only stopped 3 weeks ago. Last time I went on the e-cigs I lasted 9 months. Hoping it's permanent this time.

 

Not hoping to be permanently on the e-cig of course, just permanently off the cigs.

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Strawberry and blackcurrant are my flavours. And it has to be Totally Wicked oils. I find other brands taste burned too early and I have to replace the atomiser

 

I used to know a bloke who is a respiratory consultant in Leeds very well. Talking to him about it he said that inhaling anything other than fresh air into your lungs is bad news but given the choice of fags and ecigs he would recommend ecigs every time. It's the lesser of two evils. Neither is good but ecigs don't contain the shit that fags do. It's not the smoke as such from fags it's all the shit that's contained within the tobacco he reckons

 

That's not just what he reckons - it's the truth. Ideally, I'd go cold turkey, but no chance of that. Only been 3 weeks and I already feel a lot better and smell like a fucking dessert after I've had a few drags.

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You shoukd at least be forced to have fag flavoured ones. Tutti fruti smoking wankers.

 

The fag flavoured juices are fucking revolting. I used to think the same as you. But then I turned gay.

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NHS studies say they're 95% safer than tobacco. They might be wrong. Who would you trust?

 

Are you suggesting people would be better off sticking to cigarettes?

Am I bollocks saying stick to cigs. Why don't you just not smoke?

 

 

By the way, I googled "Are ecigs safer than cigarettes."

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2016/03/12/e-cigarettes-are-no-safer-than-smoking-tobacco-scientists-warn/

 

There are lots of reports stating the 90% figure but they are mostly on Government sites. You know, that government which is suddenly anti-smoking despite much of their income coming from smoking products. It just happens that much of their expenditure goes on smoking related illnesses.

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Am I bollocks saying stick to cigs. Why don't you just not smoke?

 

Oh, if only I'd fucking thought of that! You should be a GP! Genius!

 

I take it you have no habits which are detrimental to your health?

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I get the attraction to swapping one for the other but honestly think they will prove to be an unregulated timebomb.

 

Donkeys years back they used to hand cigs out to make you feel better!

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Don't see the point in carrying on smoking something

 

You're still in the nicotine trap/cycle so always more likely to trip up

 

And you're still inhaling red hot shit into your lungs

 

Tried everything miself

 

Only thing that's worked is champix

 

Started end of October

 

Had handful of cigs in November

 

1 in December

 

None since, even after beer which I can't quite beleive myself

 

Just dont want one anymore

 

If you're going to stop, you might as well kill the craving

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I'll go back on the fags then.

Will power and determination is all you need.

 

I went cold turkey 18 months ago and haven't smoked since.

 

Get the first month out the way and you'll be reet.

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Will power and determination is all you need.

 

I went cold turkey 18 months ago and haven't smoked since.

 

Get the first month out the way and you'll be reet.

 

 

Everyone I know who has successfully quit has done it the cold turkey way.

 

All these other 'cures' seem to mean that you are still reliant on your nicotine hit to some extent.

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These were never around when I gave up, otherwise I reckon I'd still be puffing away now. Not sure about the carcinogenicity of the oil. Usually its the aromatic oils that are carcinogenic. These e cigs might contain paraffinic oil. 

 

I used to love smoking, I would like to be reincarnated as a smoking beagle.

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Don't see the point in carrying on smoking something

 

You're still in the nicotine trap/cycle so always more likely to trip up

 

And you're still inhaling red hot shit into your lungs

 

Tried everything miself

 

Only thing that's worked is champix

 

Started end of October

 

Had handful of cigs in November

 

1 in December

 

None since, even after beer which I can't quite beleive myself

 

Just dont want one anymore

 

If you're going to stop, you might as well kill the craving

 

Fair play!  And the other quitters!

 

re. the ecigs i'd probably rather smoke 'natural' baccy or herbs than those but each to their own.

 

Only smoke 2 or 3 a day though so not a massive issue but don't want my lad seeing me smoke as he grows.

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Went cold turkey Sunday 31 Oct 2010 after the Liverpool game, we lost 1-0, last two borrowed off Spider's mate in the Bridge post game.

 

I was going to give up on NYE, it just happened a couple of months early. Do believe the only way to successfully quit is wanting to and will power.

 

Lad and his oppo both smoked e-cigs in the works van and the amount of 'oil' on the windows was unbelievable, that stuff is going in your lungs.

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