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[leigh white]

This comment, wow.I run a small Carniverous plant nursery .last year to supply one venus Flytrap to N Ireland £15.00 inc P&P
Since Jan 1st now need CITES certificate £75.00
Plant health inspection £ 130 .00
plant inc post & packing £15.00
Total £220.00
Smashing.

[Sweep]

20 minutes ago, Spider said:

Tinpot retailer complaining about Brexit.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55997641

The simple solution is to just scale down the operation in this country, and set up  a hub in mainland Europe - they'll chuck money at him and probably subsidise a new facility. Depending on what the business split is between the UK and EU, he can just sack the UK people he doesn't need thus reducing his wage bill, and then re-employ in the EU. Everybody wins then, apart from them sacked in the UK, but fuck them, they'll just have to take the opportunity to retrain in another field/career. 

[Spider]

Just now, leigh white said:

This comment, wow.I run a small Carniverous plant nursery .last year to supply one venus Flytrap to N Ireland £15.00 inc P&P
Since Jan 1st now need CITES certificate £75.00
Plant health inspection £ 130 .00
plant inc post & packing £15.00
Total £220.00
Smashing.

Poor planning

He should have supplied 1,000's last year before Brexit kicked in.

Winners and - in this case - losers.

[Escobarp]

We pay the same to bring goods in as last year and our business volume is up 31% and our margin much healthier as well based on this time last year . Like I’ve said winners and losers 

but keep posting the negatives chaps. 

[Spider]

3 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

We pay the same to bring goods in as last year and our business volume is up 31% and our margin much healthier as well based on this time last year . Like I’ve said winners and losers 

but keep posting the negatives chaps. 

Negative nellies.

[ZiggyStardust]

33 minutes ago, leigh white said:

This comment, wow.I run a small Carniverous plant nursery .last year to supply one venus Flytrap to N Ireland £15.00 inc P&P
Since Jan 1st now need CITES certificate £75.00
Plant health inspection £ 130 .00
plant inc post & packing £15.00
Total £220.00
Smashing.

is that an extra £205 per item, or atotal of £205 to export any number of items ?

 

[Escobarp]

And how many single Venus flytraps did she export to Northern Ireland last year? No context whatsoever. Sensationalizing stuff. Stupid fucking business anyway turning over less than Zico spends on ale a year 

[Escobarp]

Let’s say 1 in 20000 folk own a carnivorous plant (being generous there it’s likely less I inagine) and half buy a new one each year so that’s 1 in 40000. Northern Ireland. Population 1.9m so she’s lost out on a market of 48 sales at 10 pound each (5 of the 15 is shipping Ive checked). Of which she won’t even get 10% of as there’s loads doing it. But let’s be kind she’s got 50% of the market. So 24 sales 
 

someome get her details for me and I will give her £240 and she can stop her fucking moaning 

Edited February 9, 2021 by Escobarp

[Escobarp]

Amazing what a bit of context does to a story. Imagine if the headline was cos of brexit Ive lost 240 quid of sales. 

[Escobarp]

The fact that folk are stupid enough to lap it up worries me greatly 

[leigh white]

10 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

And how many single Venus flytraps did she export to Northern Ireland last year? No context whatsoever. Sensationalizing stuff. Stupid fucking business anyway turning over less than Zico spends on ale a year 

Must've been popular during lockdown in NI those little spell binding plants.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

51 minutes ago, Sweep said:

The simple solution is to just scale down the operation in this country, and set up  a hub in mainland Europe - they'll chuck money at him and probably subsidise a new facility. Depending on what the business split is between the UK and EU, he can just sack the UK people he doesn't need thus reducing his wage bill, and then re-employ in the EU. Everybody wins then, apart from them sacked in the UK, but fuck them, they'll just have to take the opportunity to retrain in another field/career. 

Why would they wish to lose sales in a population of 66 million?

If they shift to the EU, there will still be costs the other way.

[Escobarp]

2 minutes ago, leigh white said:

Must've been popular during lockdown in NI those little spell binding plants.

😁 clearly pal. Hope you’re well anyway 👍🏼

[leigh white]

1 minute ago, Escobarp said:

😁 clearly pal. Hope you’re well anyway 👍🏼

I am thanks.☺️

[Tonge moor green jacket]

26 minutes ago, ZiggyStardust said:

is that an extra £205 per item, or atotal of £205 to export any number of items ?

 

Just had a quick look, haven't been able to see the requirement for a cites certificate. 

Not saying they're not required, but haven't found it on gov.uk, nor on FedEx.

[Spider]

34 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

The fact that folk are stupid enough to lap it up worries me greatly 

You’re just being negative

[Sweep]

27 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Why would they wish to lose sales in a population of 66 million?

If they shift to the EU, there will still be costs the other way.

I was suggesting running as two separate entities. At present they service the UK and Europe from one base here in the UK. They'd be better having a facility here and one in Europe. That means a reduction in required staff here in the UK, as they'll just be serving the UK market. They then set up in the EU and employ people there. That's what they'll end up doing. Overall their head count may not increase, it'll just be split between here and the EU, rather than 100% here.

Its business, it'd be a shame on any in the UK who might lose their jobs, but its tough luck really

[Tonge moor green jacket]

1 minute ago, Sweep said:

I was suggesting running as two separate entities. At present they service the UK and Europe from one base here in the UK. They'd be better having a facility here and one in Europe. That means a reduction in required staff here in the UK, as they'll just be serving the UK market. They then set up in the EU and employ people there. That's what they'll end up doing. Overall their head count may not increase, it'll just be split between here and the EU, rather than 100% here.

Its business, it'd be a shame on any in the UK who might lose their jobs, but its tough luck really

That's fair enough. However, that could be a of a bit short term view couldn't it.

New markets will be opening which will provide export opportunities from the UK, which wouldn't necessarily be available from the EU.

It's down to companies and the government to get deals and explore opportunities. 

[Escobarp]

13 minutes ago, Spider said:

You’re just being negative

You’re not stupid and you know all these little snippets are without context and just meh. You’re own situation is much more significant however and there will be other businesses experiencing the same issues I’ve no doubt and it does need sorting out. 
 

I guess I’m lucky that the organization I work for is of such a scale and possibly influence that it finds this transition a bit easier. Plus I don’t need to get involved in all that crap. 

[green genie]

Would these orphan venus fly traps fancy some fresh shellfish?

[Tonge moor green jacket]

3 hours ago, green genie said:

Would these orphan venus fly traps fancy some fresh shellfish?

Well, there are very few flies about in winter, so what the fuck are they meant to eat?

[Casino]

4 hours ago, Sweep said:

I was suggesting running as two separate entities. At present they service the UK and Europe from one base here in the UK. They'd be better having a facility here and one in Europe. That means a reduction in required staff here in the UK, as they'll just be serving the UK market. They then set up in the EU and employ people there. That's what they'll end up doing. Overall their head count may not increase, it'll just be split between here and the EU, rather than 100% here.

Its business, it'd be a shame on any in the UK who might lose their jobs, but its tough luck really

Maybe its an option to manufacture trainers in England

[Mounts Kipper]

Let the £10 an hour warehouse jobs go to Europe, let’s invest in proper manufacturing and give our folk the chance of better paid jobs. Rebalancing the economy is partly what leaving was all about. 

[Cheese]

6 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Let the £10 an hour warehouse jobs go to Europe, let’s invest in proper manufacturing and give our folk the chance of better paid jobs. Rebalancing the economy is partly what leaving was all about. 

Do you have any examples of the "better paid jobs" the warehouse workers should apply for?

[Youri McAnespie]

@Casino

They do, or did, those Walsh jobbies, and everyone slated them.

I bought a pair once - lovely soft leather but felt stupid and never wore them, not even once.

Sold them on Italian eBay for a better price than I paid.

I think 'Spedizione da: Bolton, UK.' helped, even though I think they'd moved production by then.

They like (liked?) Walsh in Italy.

There were some 'converse' style 'ethical' trainers made in Portugal - unionised factory, living wage paid etc. Called Red Spot or sommat.

About £90 got sommat similar to what Fat Ashley flogs for about a tenner.

Edited February 9, 2021 by Youri McAnespie