Tonge moor green jacket Posted February 10, 2021 Posted February 10, 2021 2 hours ago, Spider said: When does it start? They’ve had - as you like to tell me - many many months and years to prepare for this. Leaving isn’t a surprise to anyone. We shouldn’t be sitting on our hands at this point. Who is they? You know, as you keep saying who is we? Government, business, education establishments the public at large? There are probably many reasons why "poverty" seems to continually grow in this country. One for sure is the simple fact that not everyone is of an academic bent or geared up to the service sector. More folk employed in manufacturing etc means the potential for hands on type folk to have a job that they feel connected to, and proud of. Enough money not to be struggling but no great desire to be a "millionaire". Perhaps more important is a sense of community, mutual and self respect. The potential of the green economy and new awareness is going to change the way nations trade over time to a certain extent anyway, so may as well go with it, rather than proclaim the world has changed and shrug it all off as a bad job. Quote
Cheese Posted February 10, 2021 Posted February 10, 2021 5 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Who is they? You know, as you keep saying who is we? Seeing as we have a Government of Brexiteers, elected ENTIRELY on the basis of "We'll Get Brexit Done", I think it's safe to assume "they" is the current Government. Quote
captainmed Posted February 10, 2021 Posted February 10, 2021 Nice to see our currency strengthening anyway. I personally think it will continue. Quote
Cheese Posted February 10, 2021 Posted February 10, 2021 24 minutes ago, captainmed said: Nice to see our currency strengthening anyway. I personally think it will continue. As if anyone in the real world gives a fuck about that. When it plummeted after the referendum, you Brexiters were claiming that as a win too. Quote
Not in Crawley Posted February 10, 2021 Posted February 10, 2021 Well I'm very upset, big contract with a British firm, from a British firm... Quote
Sweep Posted February 10, 2021 Posted February 10, 2021 34 minutes ago, Cheese said: As if anyone in the real world gives a fuck about that. When it plummeted after the referendum, you Brexiters were claiming that as a win too. I recall Maggie Tate saying that the plummet was a really good thing. In fact, I think absolutely everything he said about Brexit was wrong. Personally, I buy in USD, and generally sell in GBP, so I certainly hope it keeps going the way it is at the minute Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted February 10, 2021 Posted February 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Cheese said: Seeing as we have a Government of Brexiteers, elected ENTIRELY on the basis of "We'll Get Brexit Done", I think it's safe to assume "they" is the current Government. They weren’t the government years ago though were they? Conveniently ignored that. They don't make industrial decisions on behalf of business though do they? They also don't dictate what consumers buy. Companies have had it quite comfortable recently, thankfully quite a few started to see what was coming. United utilities for example re purposing unused buildings in Bolton as a training centre for new apprentices. Also convenient how you failed to mention the large amount of money being made available by "they" to prepare for a post pandemic UK. The Greek man had it right: plenty of "oligarchs" have been happy to have their status quo, hiding within the EU. Now time for them to grasp opportunities and stop moaning. Or fuck of out of the way and allow a new generation to flourish. Quote
Cheese Posted February 10, 2021 Posted February 10, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: They weren’t the government years ago though were they? Conveniently ignored that. You asked a question, and I answered it. And yes, a few of them WERE in Government years ago, and have been for a long time. Some of them were even pro-EU - such as Boris Johnson, which you have "conveniently" forgotten... Edited February 10, 2021 by Cheese Quote
green genie Posted February 11, 2021 Posted February 11, 2021 (edited) Hurrah, More apprentice applicants "Comments from the governor of the Bank of England make the front page of the Daily Telegraph. Andrew Bailey has warned that the European Union is poised to lock Britain out of its banking market. The newspaper says the move would push up financial costs for millions of consumers on both sides of the Channel. Mr Bailey tells the paper if this happens it would be a "mistake" and it would "lead to the fragmentation of markets". The Financial Times says Amsterdam surpassed London as Europe's largest share trading centre last month. The Netherlands is scooping up business lost by the UK since Brexit, the newspaper reports. It says there has been a "fourfold surge" in business for the Dutch city. Edited February 11, 2021 by green genie Quote
Spider Posted February 11, 2021 Posted February 11, 2021 1 hour ago, green genie said: Hurrah, More apprentice applicants "Comments from the governor of the Bank of England make the front page of the Daily Telegraph. Andrew Bailey has warned that the European Union is poised to lock Britain out of its banking market. The newspaper says the move would push up financial costs for millions of consumers on both sides of the Channel. Mr Bailey tells the paper if this happens it would be a "mistake" and it would "lead to the fragmentation of markets". The Financial Times says Amsterdam surpassed London as Europe's largest share trading centre last month. The Netherlands is scooping up business lost by the UK since Brexit, the newspaper reports. It says there has been a "fourfold surge" in business for the Dutch city. You’re just being negative Quote
green genie Posted February 11, 2021 Posted February 11, 2021 34 minutes ago, Spider said: You’re just being negative How so? Far rather have more sparkles and plumbers to stop them fleecing people than cunts like Rees Mogg betting against the country for personal gain Quote
Escobarp Posted February 11, 2021 Posted February 11, 2021 https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/business/2021/feb/10/bank-of-england-governor-warns-eu-demands-for-city-are-unrealistic this is a better piece on it I think Quote
Winchester White Posted February 11, 2021 Posted February 11, 2021 There are going to be lots of twists and turns over the coming months. I must admit at being surprised that Amsterdam overtook London though. Quote
Spider Posted February 11, 2021 Posted February 11, 2021 Sky News and the British Chamber of Commerce are all being Negative Nellies this morning. Production shifting to the EU....Amsterdam better than London....share trading moving to the EU.....Exporters facing closure inside the next few months...borders still chaotic... No mention of sovereignty. No mention of TVR. No mention of Aldi. Just neg neg neg Quote
green genie Posted February 11, 2021 Posted February 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Escobarp said: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/business/2021/feb/10/bank-of-england-governor-warns-eu-demands-for-city-are-unrealistic this is a better piece on it I think Quoting the Guardian. That had to hurt.😆 Quote
Escobarp Posted February 11, 2021 Posted February 11, 2021 4 minutes ago, green genie said: Quoting the Guardian. That had to hurt.😆 Why would it hurt? Quote
Escobarp Posted February 11, 2021 Posted February 11, 2021 Andrew Bailey is somebody i like to listen to and when he’s saying something is just unacceptable then I think we can accept that to be a fair representation of the situation. Quote
Youri McAnespie Posted February 11, 2021 Posted February 11, 2021 20 hours ago, Sweep said: The shittest pumps ever, I bought a pair once......I think on the recommendation of @Casino they were so flat and uncomfortable, I wore them once and then chucked them in the charity bin Shittiest shoes ever - Converse Allstar Hi... I bought a pair thinking they'd last forever - wrong. Not only did they feel like two pieces of hardboard strapped to my feet, the rubber strip that adheres the sole to the main body wore away after about 20 non-continuous miles (I was on holiday and like mooching about) the sole was then flapping about so they got binned, two days they lasted. Utter shite - I bet tenner jobbies from George at Asda or Fat Ashley's would've lasted longer. Quote
Ani Posted February 11, 2021 Posted February 11, 2021 2 hours ago, Escobarp said: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/business/2021/feb/10/bank-of-england-governor-warns-eu-demands-for-city-are-unrealistic this is a better piece on it I think Tbf the situation of trading moving to Amsterdam is happening now during the 6 month grace period. Carney is talking about the long term relationship with The City and the EU. The issue that is hanging over this is that London is seen by many as too unregulated and prepared to turn a blind eye at times. If the EU wants stricter rules on tax avoidance and money laundering it is reasonable to expect us to follow the same. Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted February 11, 2021 Posted February 11, 2021 4 minutes ago, Ani said: Tbf the situation of trading moving to Amsterdam is happening now during the 6 month grace period. Carney is talking about the long term relationship with The City and the EU. The issue that is hanging over this is that London is seen by many as too unregulated and prepared to turn a blind eye at times. If the EU wants stricter rules on tax avoidance and money laundering it is reasonable to expect us to follow the same. Magnitsky legislation and other new stuff should see some of these money laundering oligarchs looking over their shoulders now anyway. Quote
Mounts Kipper Posted February 11, 2021 Posted February 11, 2021 6 minutes ago, Ani said: Tbf the situation of trading moving to Amsterdam is happening now during the 6 month grace period. Carney is talking about the long term relationship with The City and the EU. The issue that is hanging over this is that London is seen by many as too unregulated and prepared to turn a blind eye at times. If the EU wants stricter rules on tax avoidance and money laundering it is reasonable to expect us to follow the same. Can you see EU having tighter regs on money laundering and tax avoidance than us? I can’t. Quote
Winchester White Posted February 11, 2021 Posted February 11, 2021 19 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Can you see EU having tighter regs on money laundering and tax avoidance than us? I can’t. What do you base that on though? Quote
Sweep Posted February 11, 2021 Posted February 11, 2021 19 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Can you see EU having tighter regs on money laundering and tax avoidance than us? I can’t. I can, and would be happier if they were actually "tighter" so that it gives these people/investors a bit of an incentive to come to us. Now that we can, we need to be looking outside of the EU for the big bucks to flow through our system Quote
Escobarp Posted February 11, 2021 Posted February 11, 2021 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Ani said: Tbf the situation of trading moving to Amsterdam is happening now during the 6 month grace period. Carney is talking about the long term relationship with The City and the EU. The issue that is hanging over this is that London is seen by many as too unregulated and prepared to turn a blind eye at times. If the EU wants stricter rules on tax avoidance and money laundering it is reasonable to expect us to follow the same. I appreciate that the share trading has moved since 1st Jan in reality and that this particular issue/articles aren’t in relations that I spent 6 months on secondment at ABN and certainly never got any feeling that they were more or less regulated or controlled than in the uk. and reading into this I’m not sure that’s the crux of the issue. More so that the eu just want us to align and dance to their tune. if Andrew Bailey thinks it’s completely unreasonable what they are asking for then that will do for me on the matter as he’s no bias nor axe to grind as far as I can see. as you know I’m relatively au fait with the sector and its regulations the same as you 🙂 @Spideri used to do mobile valeting for some of the major banks FYI Edited February 11, 2021 by Escobarp Quote
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