Moderators Zico Posted December 10, 2020 Moderators Share Posted December 10, 2020 7 hours ago, jules_darby said: I said this months ago and the Peely gang wouldn’t have it Now Vallance has admitted it JSL what does "purely a policy decision" mean? I mean, did they just assume post 10pm is when people are at their most drunk and carefree, so we'll see if that works, becausse we need to do something to get this infection rate down? to be honest, how on earth would you compile evidence to show it was at it's worst post 10pm? it was certainly never a scientific decision Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted December 10, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted December 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, ZicoKelly said: what does "purely a policy decision" mean? I mean, did they just assume post 10pm is when people are at their most drunk and carefree, so we'll see if that works, becausse we need to do something to get this infection rate down? to be honest, how on earth would you compile evidence to show it was at it's worst post 10pm? it was certainly never a scientific decision Certainly needs more research to try to get some sort of validation; but its not like its unique to us. Many countries have used similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burndens Bogs Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 Hospitality was never a major cause for the spread of the virus, it was just that Boris and Co didn't want the rest of the country getting pissed and enjoying themselves whilst a small minority were catching the virus and suffering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex_midlandwhite Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 If they'd tested all school kids in Gtr Manc and Lancs two months ago we'd be in tier two now! Unbelievable they can now do this in London!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted December 10, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted December 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, Burndens Bogs said: Hospitality was never a major cause for the spread of the virus, it was just that Boris and Co didn't want the rest of the country getting pissed and enjoying themselves whilst a small minority were catching the virus and suffering. My neighbour and family friend joined the 60,000 plus victims this morning. Not sure his family would quite share your view at the moment. The overloaded hospitals seem to have their workload increased when we open up. When they're closed numbers fall. Whatever the numbers are specifically, the link between mixing and virus levels is self evident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted December 10, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted December 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, ex_midlandwhite said: If they'd tested all school kids in Gtr Manc and Lancs two months ago we'd be in tier two now! Unbelievable they can now do this in London!!! Didn't have testing capacity then sadly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burndens Bogs Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 10 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: My neighbour and family friend joined the 60,000 plus victims this morning. Not sure his family would quite share your view at the moment. The overloaded hospitals seem to have their workload increased when we open up. When they're closed numbers fall. Whatever the numbers are specifically, the link between mixing and virus levels is self evident. My comment was with tongue bunged firmly in cheek. Wifes had the virus (works for the NHS , tested positive in the antibody test) Daughters had it - caught at school, untested but only had mild symptoms and was isolating at the time. No doubt i've had it, but haven't had any symptoms - touch wood. I probably know around 25 personally who've tested positive - one who's died. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted December 10, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted December 10, 2020 No lifting of restrictions for New Years eve Thank fuck for that Every year I end up getting dragged to some hastily arranged party, full of forced jollity and over priced everything. They should restrict it every year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted December 10, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted December 10, 2020 15 minutes ago, Burndens Bogs said: My comment was with tongue bunged firmly in cheek. Wifes had the virus (works for the NHS , tested positive in the antibody test) Daughters had it - caught at school, untested but only had mild symptoms and was isolating at the time. No doubt i've had it, but haven't had any symptoms - touch wood. I probably know around 25 personally who've tested positive - one who's died. Fair enough. It's truly a shit fest. Can't even call on the family as they've all got it too. Jabs can't come quickly enough m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Winchester White Posted December 10, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted December 10, 2020 School kids can only catch Covid in London and the SE apparently. I know rates are going down in the NW and increasing there but it still grates. I am not having that London hasn't been the Governments main focus from day one. I know they are hugely important economically but a struggling pub owner is a struggling pub owner regardless whether his pub is in London, Leicester, Bolton or Bradford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted December 10, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted December 10, 2020 When the North was flying high we had a disproportionately large amount of testing capacity stationed up here. Still shit loads about. Liverpool used to pilot the new mass testing set up. Now its up and running, why wouldn't you use the new method and its numbers where the incidence is worse? If these new machines were available in numbers and working earlier, they'd have been used in the North earlier. Do we need them now, given the drop in numbers- maybe not. Send the capacity to where its needed. Theresa Villiers can do one though; pleading for London not to be put into tier 3. That's dependant upon the state of the virus, like everywhere else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boby Brno Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 Bolton down to 105th. Kay Burley suspended for 6 months, Beth Rigby 3 months. Wales through the roof. That is all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 17 minutes ago, Boby Brno said: Bolton down to 105th. Kay Burley suspended for 6 months, Beth Rigby 3 months. Wales through the roof. That is all. For the best They can hardly hold politicians feet to the fire now can they (over Covid anyway) Best they come back when Covid’s done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted December 10, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted December 10, 2020 20 minutes ago, Boby Brno said: Bolton down to 105th. Kay Burley suspended for 6 months, Beth Rigby 3 months. Wales through the roof. That is all. Looking good. Fingers crossed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 22 minutes ago, Boby Brno said: Bolton down to 105th. Kay Burley suspended for 6 months, Beth Rigby 3 months. Wales through the roof. That is all. What on Earth happened with wales and their lockdown? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burndens Bogs Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 25 minutes ago, Boby Brno said: Bolton down to 105th. Kay Burley suspended for 6 months, Beth Rigby 3 months. Wales through the roof. That is all. Nice to see a lot of regions seeing declining new cases. Trouble is though -Cases in Bury,Rochdale,Manchester, Wigan,Bolton,Oldham etc are still way above the National average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boby Brno Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 6 minutes ago, royal white said: What on Earth happened with wales and their lockdown? 2 week firebreak. Then relaxed the restrictions. All the evidence was there that 2 weeks was not enough. Played politics with people’s lives, now it’s all the people’s fault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boby Brno Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, Burndens Bogs said: Nice to see a lot of regions seeing declining new cases. Trouble is though -Cases in Bury,Rochdale,Manchester, Wigan,Bolton,Oldham etc are still way above the National average. Averages can be misleading though. When you look at the highest area in England (Swale) is 624/100,000 and Bolton is 164. It puts it into perspective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burndens Bogs Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 17 minutes ago, Boby Brno said: Averages can be misleading though. When you look at the highest area in England (Swale) is 624/100,000 and Bolton is 164. It puts it into perspective. Comparing those figures to the figures from just a couple of days ago - London,South East and the East of England are rising the fastest.. Everywhere else levelling off or showing only slight movements either way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boby Brno Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, Burndens Bogs said: Comparing those figures to the figures from just a couple of days ago - London,South East and the East of England are rising the fastest.. Everywhere else levelling off or showing only slight movements either way. Yep. It’s almost the reverse of 6/7 weeks ago when we were put in tier 3. Interesting week coming up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted December 10, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted December 10, 2020 54 minutes ago, Burndens Bogs said: Comparing those figures to the figures from just a couple of days ago - London,South East and the East of England are rising the fastest.. Everywhere else levelling off or showing only slight movements either way. Those three areas are cycling over the recent weeks. Strange. Perhaps areas not dropping, should have their Christmas opening reduced or cancelled altogether... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lt. Aldo Raine Posted December 10, 2020 Members Share Posted December 10, 2020 I'd be interested to know the current situation in the North West's hospitals. If hospitalisations have declined and capacity isn't immediately at threat Tier 2 should be a formality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 Where did Peely Feet disappear to ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted December 10, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted December 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, miamiwhite said: Where did Peely Feet disappear to ? He was right about near enough everything. Thats no good on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1969 Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 BRH 101 beds with covid patients Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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