Coronavirus

[Not in Crawley]

Jug of custard and chips has been his highlight today.

[wiggy]

5 minutes ago, wiggy said:

I was wondering whether clubs might be able to safely manage more than 2,000 fans at a match. Just seen the Luton game and they seem to have their 2,000 fans in a space probably meant to 3,000 fans. Pretty much sat as normal with no distancing at all. It’s the first game back - hope the authorities aren’t watching. 

In fairness the fans are now much better spread out. I wonder if there was an announcement at half time.

[Not in Crawley]

41 minutes ago, DazBob said:

Sounds like that place needs shutting down. Hopefully it isn't the norm.

Few other pubs are waiting until next year, no point opening if its a meal and drink, can't make the numbers work. Some will just be opening for the 5 days during Xmas break if they are allowed. This place will be carnage on sat.

[fatolive]

9 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said:

My Aunty went into Bolton hospital 2 weeks ago after a fall, she died last week with Covid, she can only of caught it in there as she lived alone and had isolated all year. 

Condolences to you and yours

it really is a shit thing and no one being allowed there makes it even worse 

[Cheese]

1 hour ago, MancWanderer said:

I think (and I stress “think”) that I have to agree with what Cheese is saying here as I think that this argument has got a bit mixed up

We have to abide by the EU regs until we have formally left. That doesn’t mean that we can’t grant a licence. We can, so long as we abide by the said regs. Once we’ve left the EU we can do what we want but are unlikely to as the agreed regs are pretty solid and we will continue to follow them as it makes no sense to divert from them

Cheese can correct me if I’ve wrongly interpreted his stance

Edit: And if I understand correctly even if a licence is granted across the entire EU individual countries regulatory bodies can still wait until they grant use in their own country if they are not convinced that the data is solid enough

You are massively over-complicating it. My point is simply that - until January - the UK is still operating under EU Laws/Regulations.... in spite of that, a UK agency has been able to approve the vaccine for the UK...just like a German agency could approve one for Germany, or a Spanish one for Spain. Hence, it has nothing to do with the EU or EU regulations.

I'm only raising this point because certain Brexit loons are claiming "This is only possible because we have left the EU!!!". 

Edited December 2, 2020 by Cheese

[MancWanderer]

15 minutes ago, Cheese said:

You are massively over-complicating it. My point is simply that - until January - the UK is still operating under EU Laws/Regulations.... in spite of that, a UK agency has been able to approve the vaccine for the UK...just like a German agency could approve one for Germany, or a Spanish one for Spain. Hence, it has nothing to do with the EU or EU regulations.

I'm only raising this point because certain Brexit loons are claiming "This is only possible because we have left the EU!!!". 

I’m fairly sure that I was agreeing with you whilst countering misconceptions about your post. But may have read it all wrong 

[Cheese]

5 minutes ago, MancWanderer said:

I’m fairly sure that I was agreeing with you whilst countering misconceptions about your post. But may have read it all wrong 

Sort of. Just leave out the "we need to follow EU regs" regarding medical approval of a UK vaccine, as we don't and never have.

Edited December 2, 2020 by Cheese

[royal white]

10 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said:

My Aunty went into Bolton hospital 2 weeks ago after a fall, she died last week with Covid, she can only of caught it in there as she lived alone and had isolated all year. 

Sorry for your loss mate 

[MancWanderer]

1 hour ago, Cheese said:

Sort of. Just leave out the "we need to follow EU regs" regarding medical approval of a UK vaccine, as we don't and never have.

OK. I worded it wrong. It’s semantics and not worth arguing about. Technically you are absolutely correct but it would be highly unusual to approve against EU regs as they are in place for a very good reason. 

[only1swanny]

11 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said:

My Aunty went into Bolton hospital 2 weeks ago after a fall, she died last week with Covid, she can only of caught it in there as she lived alone and had isolated all year. 

Sorry for your loss. 

She will have caught it at the same time as Mrs Swanny. Who went to hospital after an asthma attack. Caught it off a nurse who was a-symptomatic. Apparently 1/3 of the ward also caught it at the same time. This will have been about 13th November. 

When I picked her up (with oxegen tank), she could hardly walk and I was told by the care assistant that helped us that "she is a very lucky lady". going to be a long road to recovery, but what she saw on that ward in the 2 weeks where she had it, nobody should see. 

[Mounts Kipper]

9 hours ago, only1swanny said:

Sorry for your loss. 

She will have caught it at the same time as Mrs Swanny. Who went to hospital after an asthma attack. Caught it off a nurse who was a-symptomatic. Apparently 1/3 of the ward also caught it at the same time. This will have been about 13th November. 

When I picked her up (with oxegen tank), she could hardly walk and I was told by the care assistant that helped us that "she is a very lucky lady". going to be a long road to recovery, but what she saw on that ward in the 2 weeks where she had it, nobody should see. 

My Aunty tested positive 11th November apparently they put a Covid patient on her ward and many on that ward caught it. Thx for the good wishes and hope your wife makes a full recovery. 

Edited December 3, 2020 by Mounts Kipper

[Tombwfc]

I see Gavin Williamson's gone all "your boys took one hell of a beating" about an internationally developed vaccine this morning.

 

 

[Spider]

Patriot

[mickbrown]

He really is a dick isn't he?

[Winchester White]

Factually incorrect playground taunt. From someone in Government.

We live in very strange times.

[Farrelli]

10 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

He really is a dick isn't he?

He really is, if he wasn't such a poor Education Secretary it might be more forgivable. 

However, not an ounce of humility despite the vaccine clearly being a global effort.

[Sweep]

He's very positive, and loves his country. He'll ride to glory on his gold plated unicorn and be the next PM, once they've potted Bozzer in March/April

[jmjhb]

The vaccine still has to go to Middlesbrough and get something

[Casino]

what an absolute fucking cock

[Sweep]

1 hour ago, mickbrown said:

He really is a dick isn't he?

He's going to look a bit of a dick, if we end up not being the first to roll it out............or even worse we roll it out, and it's a pile of shit and ends up being a waste of time

[Escobarp]

First vaccines being given Tuesday up here. When are they starting down south?

[Ani]

2 hours ago, Tombwfc said:

I see Gavin Williamson's gone all "your boys took one hell of a beating" about an internationally developed vaccine this morning.

 

 

Would make more sense if the vaccine itself was developed in the UK. He is a cock even Boris swerved this question. 

[Burndens Bogs]

30 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

First vaccines being given Tuesday up here. When are they starting down south?

Monday - if there’s any left we’ll send ‘em up North

[Escobarp]

6 minutes ago, Burndens Bogs said:

Monday - if there’s any left we’ll send ‘em up North

We’ve got super Scottish versions laced with irn bru and haggis mate 

mad an aside interesting krankie has all but ruled out medical passports up here. She’s just stated that there is no evidence at present that having the vaccine stops you from catching or spreading the virus. What it does is significantly reduces the impact the virus has on you and the chance you become seriously ill. 
 

this is the first time I’ve heard that said on the basis I don’t watch the news anymore or read about it as I got bored. Is this new info or how it’s already been portrayed?

[Sweep]

9 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

We’ve got super Scottish versions laced with irn bru and haggis mate 

mad an aside interesting krankie has all but ruled out medical passports up here. She’s just stated that there is no evidence at present that having the vaccine stops you from catching or spreading the virus. What it does is significantly reduces the impact the virus has on you and the chance you become seriously ill. 
 

this is the first time I’ve heard that said on the basis I don’t watch the news anymore or read about it as I got bored. Is this new info or how it’s already been portrayed?

That's how I'd understood that's how some of the vaccines work, which is why nobody in power, anywhere is getting overly excited by it yet.

This is the article I read on it last week: There’s still one huge mystery surrounding coronavirus vaccines – BGR