Coronavirus

[Casino]

56 minutes ago, birch-chorley said:

Even still 

Getting a brand new piece of kit out in a matter of days from nothing would cost a fortune 

It depends what they are doing. If the clever bit is existing technology, the cases are a piece of piss to any company with a laser cutter, bending machines and welders

Minimal set up costs

[Mounts Kipper]

21 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said:

The ironic thing is the ones who are concerned with politics are the people who cannot tolerate people asking questions of the government. The point of these questions is to represent the NHS staff and public asking them. They are perfectly legitimate questions. 
 

The actions we’ve taken are commendable. But just as we can praise that it’s fair to question some fundamentals that haven’t had real answers yet. 

I’m sure the Tories are well aware of what needs doing, they have the best medical advisors on board, I’m sick of hearing from assorted bunch of know nothings chipping in under the  guise of moral outrage when in reality it’s just another political point scoring exercise. 

[Casino]

Just now, Mounts Kipper said:

I’m sure the Tories are well aware of what needs doing, they have the best medical advisors on board, I’m sick of hearing from assorted bunch of know nothings chipping in under the  guise of moral outrage when in reality it’s just another political point scoring exercise. 

Defend them all you like

What you can't defend is their public pronouncements saying, for example

 

We will be doin x from tomorrow, by next week etc

And then not doing it

They're either shit or being badly let down by the backroom staff

Before you promise it, make sure you can ffs

[mickbrown]

1 minute ago, Mounts Kipper said:

I’m sure the Tories are well aware of what needs doing, they have the best medical advisors on board, I’m sick of hearing from assorted bunch of know nothings chipping in under the  guise of moral outrage when in reality it’s just another political point scoring exercise. 

It’s not really political point scoring.  I’d just quite like my mam and dad not to die. 

[freds dad]

6 minutes ago, Casino said:

It depends what they are doing. If the clever bit is existing technology, the cases are a piece of piss to any company with a laser cutter, bending machines and welders

Minimal set up costs

If you are referring to ventilators then you are correct that they can be assembled quite quickly however they then have to be pressure tested to ensure that the oxygen levels they are providing are correct as too much can kill as easily as too little.

[mickbrown]

Just now, Casino said:

Defend them all you like

What you can't defend is their public pronouncements saying, for example

 

We will be doin x from tomorrow, by next week etc

And then not doing it

They're either shit or being badly let down by the backroom staff

Before you promise it, make sure you can ffs

And the whole pretending to have lost an email. Fuck right off with that sort of billshit

[1969]

On 25/03/2020 at 17:07, Casino said:

You do need to be furloughed

Which is a posh word for temporary redundancy

Legally, you cannot do any work for your employer while furloughed

Just been informed by my company that I've been furloughed until 31st may

Cheers casino for pointing me in the right direction 

[mickbrown]

1 minute ago, freds dad said:

If you are referring to ventilators then you are correct that they can be assembled quite quickly however they then have to be pressure tested to ensure that the oxygen levels they are providing are correct as too much can kill as easily as too little.

If they work as well as those shit hand dryers, put me down for a JCB one. 

[Guest Nordkurve]

53 minutes ago, ZiggyStardust said:

Are these the same CEO's thayt yesterday you were saying lie all the time and would use this crisis as a way to do stuff that would otherwise be illegal, or a completely different type of CEO ?

I don't remember saying the CEOs lied ? I do remember saying that they had their Bonuses protected etc, but that has got nothing to do with bypassing Medical Ventilator companies has it ?

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Just now, Casino said:

Defend them all you like

What you can't defend is their public pronouncements saying, for example

 

We will be doin x from tomorrow, by next week etc

And then not doing it

They're either shit or being badly let down by the backroom staff

Before you promise it, make sure you can ffs

I can accept that. Only so many times you can say it before staff get disillusioned etc.

If materials, testing labs/staff or whatever are in short supply, don't promise it, just express it as an aim but qualify it.

Good to see Kent doing it now, so hopefully things are getting better.

 

[Guest Nordkurve]

25 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

Settle down Wolfgang.   I wasn’t referring to your good self nor did I see your posts as political. 
 

beruhigen!!!!!

Hey, you Calm Down  By the way the locals gave me a German name: Sepp.

[Escobarp]

1 minute ago, Nordkurve said:

Hey, you Calm Down  By the way the locals gave me a German name: Sepp.

Not mushroom for maneuvering there

I shall get my coat 

and let’s hope that name wasn’t given due to your uncanny resemblance to bassini 😷

Edited April 1, 2020 by Escobarp

[only1swanny]

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[Zico]

11 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

I’m sure the Tories are well aware of what needs doing, they have the best medical advisors on board, I’m sick of hearing from assorted bunch of know nothings chipping in under the  guise of moral outrage when in reality it’s just another political point scoring exercise. 

no doubt, but there were probably asked two different questions:

Q1) How do we best protect people's lives? 
A1) Full lockdown from the off

Q2) How do we best protect the economy?
A2) Sort of lockdown, let people go to work, ask the rest to stay at home and hope they do

We had a head start, as did the states, and we both went with 2 - and now it's getting messy

it's not point scoring, it's pointing out what has happened and assuming why we went down this route

as said previously, I still think China have massively played it down, and other countries have trusted their numbers/data when making their decisions

[only1swanny]

2 minutes ago, ZicoKelly said:

no doubt, but there were probably asked two different questions:

Q1) How do we best protect people's lives? 
A1) Full lockdown from the off

Q2) How do we best protect the economy?
A2) Sort of lockdown, let people go to work, ask the rest to stay at home and hope they do

We had a head start, as did the states, and we both went with 2 - and now it's getting messy

it's not point scoring, it's pointing out what has happened and assuming why we went down this route

as said previously, I still think China have massively played it down, and other countries have trusted their numbers/data when making their decisions

There are video's doing the rounds, one of them is absolute grim and there is a wrapped body outside every other house. 

No way could they stop the virus as quickly as they did (only rose by 3k in a month havving rose 70k the previous month). 

 

[jmjhb]

 

[jmjhb]

We aren't getting over this in 2 weeks as some people seem to think...

Edited April 1, 2020 by jmjhb

[Rudy]

It’ll be reet

[Winchester White]

Over 500 in one day 😥

[Guest Nordkurve]

16 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

Not mushroom for maneuvering there

I shall get my coat 

and let’s hope that name wasn’t given due to your uncanny resemblance to bassini 😷

Sepp Bergmann, because I can see the Alps from my House down in Bavaria, and Sepp because it's a typical Bayerisch name. Never been with a Ladyboy, so definately nowt to do with Bassini

[peelyfeet]

7 minutes ago, only1swanny said:

There are video's doing the rounds, one of them is absolute grim and there is a wrapped body outside every other house. 

No way could they stop the virus as quickly as they did (only rose by 3k in a month havving rose 70k the previous month). 

 

we could and should have done a south Korea and what now looks like a Germany - test as much as you can early on - isolate the infected early, trace back everyone whos been in contact with an infected person- attack the virus head on, we are doing a defensive manoeuvre at the moment - experts were saying this in mid Jan - priority should have been testing.

[Guest Nordkurve]

8 minutes ago, jmjhb said:

We aren't getting over this in 2 weeks as some people seem to think...

This is what worries me.My Mother in Law and Father in Law both still think Boris will have it sorted in two weeks. They don't understand. No one could have this sorted in two weeks. It's going to be months at the very best. The "lockdown" we have in Bavaria is being extended, in fact all Germany I believe, and we have some of the better figures with regards to infection/hospitalisation/death rates.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

1 minute ago, peelyfeet said:

we could and should have done a south Korea and what now looks like a Germany - test as much as you can early on - isolate the infected early, trace back everyone whos been in contact with an infected person- attack the virus head on, we are doing a defensive manoeuvre at the moment - experts were saying this in mid Jan - priority should have been testing.

How easy is it in reality to trace back all the people an individual has met?

Especially once it gets out into the wider public.

[Rudy]

4 minutes ago, Nordkurve said:

Sepp Bergmann, because I can see the Alps from my House down in Bavaria, and Sepp because it's a typical Bayerisch name. Never been with a Ladyboy, so definately nowt to do with Bassini

Not that you know of

[royal white]

3 minutes ago, peelyfeet said:

we could and should have done a south Korea and what now looks like a Germany - test as much as you can early on - isolate the infected early, trace back everyone whos been in contact with an infected person- attack the virus head on, we are doing a defensive manoeuvre at the moment - experts were saying this in mid Jan - priority should have been testing.

How many countries followed this advice? Any idea?