Coronavirus

[Traf]

22 hours ago, jayjayoghani said:

The federal and state governments are that strict I'm surprised they're being allowed in. 

Folk over there whinging about restrictions don't know they're born. 

Where is your daughter moving to? 

They're being allowed, because their application was submitted and approved in 2019. They were due to go at Easter this year, so they were told to wait and now they can go from September 1st.

They're eventually headed for Mackay, Queensland, where they've both got jobs waiting for them.

[Tombwfc]

24 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

I’ll take Nobel prize winner opinion over yours. 

 

What is it specifically about his credentials that make you believe him vs the epidemiologists, CSO's & CMO's of the majority of countries on earth?

[Spider]

24 minutes ago, Tombwfc said:

 

What is it specifically about his credentials that make you believe him vs the epidemiologists, CSO's & CMO's of the majority of countries on earth?

It suits his opinion of course

[tyldesley_white]

48 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

I’ll take Nobel prize winner opinion over yours. 

really ... take this then from the CDC 

Texas last 7 days 46,000 new cases

Florida last 7 days 45,000 new cases

California last 7 days 62,600 new cases

https://www.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#cases

That's over 155,000 new case in the last 7 days in just those 3 states alone, so how does he think its going go in 10 days, hoping it's going to get hot, I tell you it should be gone in Houston by Monday then, Friday it was 99 , to day 101 tomorrow the same 

[jayjayoghani]

1 hour ago, Traf said:

They're being allowed, because their application was submitted and approved in 2019. They were due to go at Easter this year, so they were told to wait and now they can go from September 1st.

They're eventually headed for Mackay, Queensland, where they've both got jobs waiting for them.

Interesting destination. Most people end up in Melbourne, Sydney or SE Queensland.

Haven't been, but passed through on a bus no doubt when I backpacked. Not far from the Whitsundays though which are magnificent. Best of luck to them. 

[Mounts Kipper]

8 hours ago, Tombwfc said:

 

What is it specifically about his credentials that make you believe him vs the epidemiologists, CSO's & CMO's of the majority of countries on earth?

If you Check Neil Ferguson projections for Covid deaths against Levitts predictions, you’ll find one of them for close one was wildly inaccurate and governments across the globe acted on the incorrect projections. 

Edited August 16, 2020 by Mounts Kipper

[Guest]

36 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

If you Check Neil Ferguson projections for Covid deaths against Levitts predictions, you’ll find one of them for close one was wildly inaccurate and governments across the globe acted on the incorrect projections. 

Interesting to see how Ferguson created his projections

[Tonge moor green jacket]

34 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

If you Check Neil Ferguson projections for Covid deaths against Levitts predictions, you’ll find one of them for close one was wildly inaccurate and governments across the globe acted on the incorrect projections. 

Not had a look, but if the actions taken were based on projections of a greater number of deaths, then by the relative success of these actions a lower number have resulted. 

To draw an analogy: if a group of 5 people stand in the outside lane of the motorway, one person might predict that all 5 will be killed when struck by a car at 70 mph.

Another person might predict that only 3 will die.

If however, I shout to them that a car is coming, and at the last minute they start to take evasive action, and only 3 die, and two survive, does that mean the original lower prediction was correct?

Or was the worse case scenario correct, and knowledge of this potential outcome led to a warning and lower death rate?

[Escobarp]

18 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Not had a look, but if the actions taken were based on projections of a greater number of deaths, then by the relative success of these actions a lower number have resulted. 

To draw an analogy: if a group of 5 people stand in the outside lane of the motorway, one person might predict that all 5 will be killed when struck by a car at 70 mph.

Another person might predict that only 3 will die.

If however, I shout to them that a car is coming, and at the last minute they start to take evasive action, and only 3 die, and two survive, does that mean the original lower prediction was correct?

Or was the worse case scenario correct, and knowledge of this potential outcome led to a warning and lower death rate?

This is the issue. We took evasive (maybe later than we should’ve done) and as such our numbers are lower. Because the numbers are lower folk who are that way inclined believe we don’t have a problem and everyone was miles adrift. The numbers at the outset were based on doing nothing. 
 

[Spider]

Mounts

How about a bet

£50 says Covid will not be gone in ten days in America.

Make your cheque payable to Derian House on the 26th please.

[Mounts Kipper]

20 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Not had a look, but if the actions taken were based on projections of a greater number of deaths, then by the relative success of these actions a lower number have resulted. 

To draw an analogy: if a group of 5 people stand in the outside lane of the motorway, one person might predict that all 5 will be killed when struck by a car at 70 mph.

Another person might predict that only 3 will die.

If however, I shout to them that a car is coming, and at the last minute they start to take evasive action, and only 3 die, and two survive, does that mean the original lower prediction was correct?

Or was the worse case scenario correct, and knowledge of this potential outcome led to a warning and lower death rate?

This is an interesting read and seems to make sense to my non medical mind. 
 

https://off-guardian.org/2020/07/07/second-wave-not-even-close/

my Brother in law who’s a professor in Utah is looking closely at all the info out there and his conclusion is that we’ve fucked up by locking down like we have. 

 

[Mounts Kipper]

22 minutes ago, Spider said:

Mounts

How about a bet

£50 says Covid will not be gone in ten days in America.

Make your cheque payable to Derian House on the 26th please.

It won’t be gone in 10 days, what it says is that deaths will likely return to normal levels around that date, that the pandemic will be dying out, folk will continue to contract it but excess deaths will reduce to normal levels soon thereafter. I’m not a scientist but Brother in Law is and he is studying this and taking in all the relevant info. The startling fact If it’s true is that 80% of the population looks like it has some immunity even if they’ve not had Covid. 

Edited August 16, 2020 by Mounts Kipper

[Guest]

10 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

It won’t be gone in 10 days, what it says is that deaths will likely return to normal levels around that date, that the pandemic will be dying out, folk will continue to contract it but excess deaths will reduce to normal levels soon thereafter. I’m not a scientist but Brother in Law is and he is studying this and taking in all the relevant info. The startling fact If it’s true is that 80% of the population looks like it has some immunity even if they’ve not had Covid. 

Well, it's been a good practice run for any future proper pandemic

[gonzo]

Aye. Balls to locking down. Just let the fucker ride. 

[Mounts Kipper]

7 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Aye. Balls to locking down. Just let the fucker ride. 

If it’s true and proven without doubt 80% have some level of immunity then that’s got to be the way forward, with the proviso that those at high risk still might want to isolate. 

Edited August 16, 2020 by Mounts Kipper

[Zico]

14 hours ago, kent_white said:

Stay at home - lock yourself in a room - eat Chinese food - drink lots of vimto and take paracetamol. That's what I did! 

Too obvious, too sensible

[kent_white]

Fucking hell. Have a butchers at this headline and then come back and talk to me about our 'left wing media' 😂😂😂

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8631473/amp/Did-Jeremy-Corbyns-Marxist-henchman-Seumas-Milne-infect-Boris-Johnson-coronavirus.html#aoh=15975693152722&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From %1%24s

[Tonge moor green jacket]

1 minute ago, ZicoKelly said:

Too obvious, too sensible

So long as you've an en suite bathroom and a separate one.

[Zico]

Just now, Tonge moor green jacket said:

So long as you've an en suite bathroom and a separate one.

Or cleaning equipment

[Tonge moor green jacket]

2 minutes ago, kent_white said:

Fucking hell. Have a butchers at this headline and then come back and talk to me about our 'left wing media' 😂😂😂

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8631473/amp/Did-Jeremy-Corbyns-Marxist-henchman-Seumas-Milne-infect-Boris-Johnson-coronavirus.html#aoh=15975693152722&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From %1%24s

A bit of shit stirring, sabre rattling bollocks by a newspaper.

Thankfully, they do admit no one in the hoc is pointing fingers.

[kent_white]

Just now, Tonge moor green jacket said:

A bit of shit stirring, sabre rattling bollocks by a newspaper.

Thankfully, they do admit no one in the hoc is pointing fingers.

Aye - right down at the bottom of the article! 

There's people in the comments section calling it an 'assassination attempt' 😂😂😂

[Tonge moor green jacket]

1 minute ago, kent_white said:

Aye - right down at the bottom of the article! 

There's people in the comments section calling it an 'assassination attempt' 😂😂😂

You'd think there was nothing else going on in the world!

Mongy. 

Anyway, I see Trump's brother has died. Wonder if covid is at play?

[kent_white]

3 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

You'd think there was nothing else going on in the world!

Mongy. 

Anyway, I see Trump's brother has died. Wonder if covid is at play?

I didn't even know he had a brother?

 Someone mentioned earlier - with the candidates being 74 and 77 - there's a fairly decent chance one of them might die in office. Especially with the level of pressure they'd be under. 

Was reading that 8 US presidents have died while in the White House - 4 of which were assassinated which is crazy for such a young country!

[Tonge moor green jacket]

2 minutes ago, kent_white said:

I didn't even know he had a brother?

 Someone mentioned earlier - with the candidates being 74 and 77 - there's a fairly decent chance one of them might die in office. Especially with the level of pressure they'd be under. 

Was reading that 8 US presidents have died while in the White House - 4 of which were assassinated which is crazy for such a young country!

The other 4 whilst being sucked off by an intern?

[kent_white]

1 minute ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

The other 4 whilst being sucked off by an intern?

😂😂😂

This is massive news if it's true. Seems to have slipped under the radar a bit.

Feel sorry for Public Health England who've been absolutely decimated in recent years - but I can understand why the decision has been made.

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-health-secretary-to-replace-public-health-england-with-specialist-pandemic-unit-says-report-12050234