Coronavirus

[Sweep]

9 minutes ago, gonzo said:

99.972% survival rate in this country.

We may as well lockdown to stop heroin use spreading. 

It's surely not 99.972% survival rate?!?  -  I'm not sure nearly 100% of all people who've contracted COVID-19 have survived have they? - with over 40K people apparently dead of it, that would mean that at least 40M people have had the virus (my sums may be wrong  )

As ever, you can get the numbers to read how you want - I'm beyond caring either way to be honest, but if it at the start of the year, the announced on the News at Ten that within 6 months a new virus would kill off circa 40K people in the UK, that would have sounded pretty horrific in itself.

I agree that the economy does need to open up quickly, but our Government, and others around the world don't seem to be having any of it, with may areas now going back into localised lockdowns and imposing quarantines etc........so maybe they know something we don't. I'm guessing they don't want it potentially mixing with Winter Flu, which could be a bit grim.

Either way, we're treading a thin line now between health and wealth. We'll see what happens in a few weeks, if they decide the schools are going to go back or not, and if so, for how long before they start closing them down again

Edited August 14, 2020 by Sweep

[Spider]

25 minutes ago, gonzo said:

99.972% survival rate in this country.

We may as well lockdown to stop heroin use spreading. 

Gonzo

We’ve had 314,000 cases and 41,000 deaths according to official figures

i make that 87% survival rate

Where the 99% number from?

[athywhite1958]

How many of those would have died if Corona hadn't been here?

[Casino]

10 minutes ago, Spider said:

Gonzo

We’ve had 314,000 cases and 41,000 deaths according to official figures

i make that 87% survival rate

Where the 99% number from?

im guessing the 99 figure is the pecentage of the popn still alive

[Tombwfc]

1 minute ago, Casino said:

im guessing the 99 figure is the pecentage of the popn still alive

 

In which case doesn't everything have a 99+% survival rate? Cancer, heart disease, helicopter crashes, shooting yourself in the face etc.

[tyldesley_white]

6 minutes ago, Casino said:

im guessing the 99 figure is the pecentage of the popn still alive

it the figure that keeps popping up on facebook, over and over and over and over .. I think you get the point 

They like to use it because it a nice big figure, the other big they dont like to use is 40k dead in the UK's case and 167000 dead in the US case

[Sweep]

10 minutes ago, athywhite1958 said:

How many of those would have died if Corona hadn't been here?

We'll never know that, of course some of them would have died within a few months anyway, but equally many would have lived for a few more years. My mate who died, had an "underlying condition" which was a kidney issue, without COVID, he'd still be alive, and would have lived for another 20 or 30 years probably

[Sweep]

4 minutes ago, Tombwfc said:

 

In which case doesn't everything have a 99+% survival rate? Cancer, heart disease, helicopter crashes, shooting yourself in the face etc.

Indeed, even death itself has +99% survival rate by that rational

[Zico]

17 minutes ago, Sweep said:

Indeed, even death itself has +99% survival rate by that rational

how do you survive death?

[Tombwfc]

16 minutes ago, Sweep said:

We'll never know that, of course some of them would have died within a few months anyway, but equally many would have lived for a few more years. My mate who died, had an "underlying condition" which was a kidney issue, without COVID, he'd still be alive, and would have lived for another 20 or 30 years probably

 

All of them would've died anyway, unless they were immortal prior to COVID.

But I think peeleyfeet put some figures on here a couple of months ago which said 90% of people admitted to ICU had been living without any assistance before they caught it. Maybe that number has changed, but it doesn't suggest the majority were at deaths door.

Either way whether they had 10 months or 10 years, they almost certainly wouldn't have died a slow, painful death alone in hospital with no-one able to go within six feet of them.

 

[Tombwfc]

7 minutes ago, ZicoKelly said:

how do you survive death?

 

100% of people alive survive death on a daily basis.

[Zico]

1 minute ago, Tombwfc said:

 

100% of people alive survive death on a daily basis.

if we had a Zombie uprising, of people who die then come back to life, would that mean we could have a 150% survival rate or something?

[Sweep]

7 minutes ago, ZicoKelly said:

if we had a Zombie uprising, of people who die then come back to life, would that mean we could have a 150% survival rate or something?

Does a Zombie come back to life, or is it still technically dead (as in walking dead)......or does it become a third category of neither alive nor dead, thus really skewing the figures, because at some point, they would become the largest number

[Zico]

6 minutes ago, Sweep said:

Does a Zombie come back to life, or is it still technically dead (as in walking dead)......or does it become a third category of neither alive nor dead, thus really skewing the figures, because at some point, they would become the largest number

I've no idea but this is why I'll always go with burial over cremation, because if it doesn happen, I want to be part of it

[ZiggyStardust]

 

1 hour ago, gonzo said:

99.972% survival rate in this country.

We may as well lockdown to stop heroin use spreading. 

99.972% Survival rate, with 41,00 dead would mean that 146,428,571 people in the UK have had the virus, and survived.

Or every single person has had it. twice, at least, and survived.

 

[peelyfeet]

2 hours ago, gonzo said:

99.972% survival rate in this country.

We may as well lockdown to stop heroin use spreading. 

This figure isn't the survival rate - it's the % of the UK  population that hadn't died of covid by mid April. its about 99.94% now

You can't survive something that hasn't happened to you, if you can, I'm a survivor of AIDS, the falklands War, September 11th and Harold Shipman

Using this rationale 99.06% of the population of the UK survived WW2, 99.85% of the civilian population - must have been a breeze.

And 99.753% of us survive cancer every year and 99.07% of us survive everything every year, by mid April this year,  about 99.60% of us had survived everything -  so what's all the fuss about?

 

 

Edited August 14, 2020 by peelyfeet

[Farrelli]

4 hours ago, Casino said:

is it correct that expected grades from private schools werent subjected to the same scutiny

Ive read 2 things, one they on average were upgraded and secondly they were just waved through

I cant honestly say i believe either tale

They were using schools previous exam records as a factor. Consequently private schools have been affected  more favourably as they generally have higher grades. It is a farce.  

[Jol_BWFC]

99.972% survival rate. We are doing better than the World*.
 

 

 

*copyright Donald J Trump (2020)

[tyldesley_white]

1 minute ago, Jol_BWFC said:

99.972% survival rate. We are doing better than the World*.
 

 

 

*copyright Donald J Trump (2020)

it is what it is *

Edited August 14, 2020 by tyldesley_white

[peelyfeet]

1 hour ago, Tombwfc said:

 

All of them would've died anyway, unless they were immortal prior to COVID.

But I think peeleyfeet put some figures on here a couple of months ago which said 90% of people admitted to ICU had been living without any assistance before they caught it. Maybe that number has changed, but it doesn't suggest the majority were at deaths door.

Either way whether they had 10 months or 10 years, they almost certainly wouldn't have died a slow, painful death alone in hospital with no-one able to go within six feet of them.

 

It's pretty similar now - in the ICU 89.7% need no assitance with daily life - 9.8% need a bit of help, 0.4% need total help.

So most in the ICU were living decent lives by the looks of it - obvioulsy in the care homes it will be a lot higher  % needing some sort of care and their length of remainig life would have been much less.

 

 

[Guest]

Restrictions retained

[radcliffe white]

Dirty mancs 

[stevieb]

On 11/08/2020 at 13:10, stevieb said:

Come back to me if the lockdown stays for 3 days or whether it is incrementally elongated and expanded... Again. 

Expanded another 12 days in New Zealand 

Will be another national lockdown by next week. 

 

[Boby Brno]

18 minutes ago, stevieb said:

Expanded another 12 days in New Zealand 

Will be another national lockdown by next week. 

 

Anyone travelling to (if allowed) or returning to Australia, have to quarantine in a hotel of the government’s choice for 14 days. The traveler pays the bill. We are just playing at it and still some people complain.

[Traf]

6 hours ago, Boby Brno said:

Anyone travelling to (if allowed) or returning to Australia, have to quarantine in a hotel of the government’s choice for 14 days. The traveler pays the bill. We are just playing at it and still some people complain.

Correct.

My daughter, her husband and our 6 yr old grandchild emigrate in a fortnight and will be taken straight from Sydney airport to quarantine, whilst their cat and dog are whisked away to the same treatment elsewhere.