Coronavirus

[Guest]

9 minutes ago, jmjhb said:

Nearly 3000 new cases today

On the flip side, only 2 deaths reported

Are cases relevant at the moment?

[jmjhb]

Probably, since Bolton is Covid capital of the UK at the moment

And the number of cases has been creeping up steadily since early July

Edited September 6, 2020 by jmjhb

[Not in Crawley]

Interesting read - it appears my borough in Bromley is at the bottom of covid cases https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/06/as-other-cities-go-into-lockdown-why-isnt-london-having-a-second-wave

[Tonge moor green jacket]

4 hours ago, Not in Crawley said:

Yeah mine were so shit they pulled them down. But if you're coming out with 50k worth of debt you can expect a bit more than a bed, a desk and a sink.

Still had to pay accommodation back then though. Part grant (tax payer) or student loan (tax payer). Still would have been nice to be able to have a slash without trogging along corridors in the night!

Spoiled now I reckon.

[Not in Crawley]

It were cheap though. Even private rooms were £320 a term with full bills.

I shared a room in my first year so save money, bunk beds...god that was grim. I was expecting something like an American dorm. Made a concerted effort to get a girlfriend so I had a better room. Found one how would put up with me, numb as a piss-stone, nothing in common at all but also worked shifts at a little chef so got hot food as well. 

 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

1 minute ago, Not in Crawley said:

It were cheap though. Even private rooms were £320 a term with full bills.

I shared a room in my first year so save money, bunk beds...god that was grim. I was expecting something like an American dorm. Made a concerted effort to get a girlfriend so I had a better room. Found one how would put up with me, numb as a piss-stone, nothing in common at all but also worked shifts at a little chef so got hot food as well. 

 

lived in a farm house second year. Electric bar heater, but a real fire place in the room.

50p in the meter to warm the water for a bath.

3 mile walk to university. 

Loved it.

[Spider]

13 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

lived in a farm house second year. Electric bar heater, but a real fire place in the room.

50p in the meter to warm the water for a bath.

3 mile walk to university. 

Loved it.

Presume you went to uni of Bolton based on those living arrangements?

[Tonge moor green jacket]

13 minutes ago, Spider said:

Presume you went to uni of Bolton based on those living arrangements?

It didn't exist!

[Guest]

38 minutes ago, jmjhb said:

Probably, since Bolton is Covid capital of the UK at the moment

And the number of cases has been creeping up steadily since early July

COVID infection capital, but numbers in hospital and deaths are very low

[Sweep]

46 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

Are cases relevant at the moment?

Probably is if you're one of the people who've got it I'd have thought

[Casino]

5 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

COVID infection capital, but numbers in hospital and deaths are very low

Im pretty sure you are being obtuse just for the sake of it, these days

The tories seem to be very concerned with infection numbers

Are you saying theyre getting it wrong

Go on, you can say it

You can still read conservativewoman even if green doesnt pop round for nibbles

[Casino]

Just now, Sweep said:

Probably is if you're one of the people who've got it I'd have thought

like ive posted before BD can have a very decent life without opening his front door

Theres plenty older folk have to travel to work every day

[Guest]

23 minutes ago, Sweep said:

Probably is if you're one of the people who've got it I'd have thought

Most people aren’t sick with it

Most are young

I know you had a bad time with it, though

 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

6 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

Most people aren’t sick with it

Most are young

I know you had a bad time with it, though

 

Trouble is, evidence now showing up of long term additional health issues after recovery. Perfectly healthy (prior) chap had a stroke, others with evidence of brain or organ issues.

The odd incidence and you'd pass it off as coincidence. Seems to he more to it than that though, and if measures can reduce infection and consequent health problems that's got to be good.

 

[Not in Crawley]

1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

lived in a farm house second year. Electric bar heater, but a real fire place in the room.

50p in the meter to warm the water for a bath.

3 mile walk to university. 

Loved it.

My mates lived in a farmhouse, many an evening spent cow tipping.

Lived in a massive 6 bed place in my third year, loved that place, we did trash it though which was a shame.

[ErnestTurnip]

Seems my uncle tested positive the other day,, works in a club where there won't be many young uns going in for a drink or game of snooker so that's yet another Bolton drinking establishment closed temporarily.

Heard quite a few people complaining of heart palpitatiions recently, whether that's Covid related would be idle speculation though.

 

Edited September 6, 2020 by ErnestTurnip

[Tombwfc]

3 hours ago, MickyD said:

You test more folk, you find more cases.

Did the early part of this pandemic simply find all those already to weak to fight it off though? Or maybe the way they counted the deaths was flawed. 

 

Are we though?

174k tests processed on 6th August (950 cases). 182k last Sunday (1,406 cases). 175k today (2,988 cases)

[Tonge moor green jacket]

35 minutes ago, Tombwfc said:

 

Are we though?

174k tests processed on 6th August (950 cases). 182k last Sunday (1,406 cases). 175k today (2,988 cases)

No doubting an increase currently. Similar testing earlier would have yielded something far, far worse.

Some scientific explanations a few days ago (sky news perhaps) and the figures quoted for infections (estimated) at peak time were enormous. 

[MickyD]

38 minutes ago, Tombwfc said:

 

Are we though?

174k tests processed on 6th August (950 cases). 182k last Sunday (1,406 cases). 175k today (2,988 cases)

I’m deliberately avoiding numbers for numbers’ sake. What do your figures represent? National tests? Regional? Local. 

[Tombwfc]

13 minutes ago, MickyD said:

I’m deliberately avoiding numbers for numbers’ sake. What do your figures represent? National tests? Regional? Local. 

 

National.

[wiggy]

3 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Trouble is, evidence now showing up of long term additional health issues after recovery. Perfectly healthy (prior) chap had a stroke, others with evidence of brain or organ issues.

The odd incidence and you'd pass it off as coincidence. Seems to he more to it than that though, and if measures can reduce infection and consequent health problems that's got to be good.

 

Saw my sister today for the first time in 6 months. Knew she’d had it fairly early on - probably from working for the NHS. What I didn’t know was how much it’s affected her health wise. She’s a very fit 39 year old but any time she tries even semi strenuous exercise now she ends up in bed for the whole of the next day. Doctors have told her to lay off any exercise for the next 6 weeks. Understandably so much resource has been committed to immediate life saving treatment and search for a vaccine that management of long term affects seems to have taken a back seat. Just another example of why we need to make sure we continue to take this threat seriously. Not good enough to just say crack on and let it take the weak and elderly

 

[MickyD]

1 hour ago, Tombwfc said:

 

National.

Then it’s a bit flawed that while we discuss local numbers you interject with nationwide statistics. If you can, give us the numbers for all areas of Bolton show many tests, how many positive results, how many deaths.

[Casino]

2 minutes ago, MickyD said:

Then it’s a bit flawed that while we discuss local numbers you interject with nationwide statistics. If you can, give us the numbers for all areas of Bolton show many tests, how many positive results, how many deaths.

Tbf, his point is that for the same number of tests we have 3x as many positives 

I'd say its worthy of being chucked in the mix if people argue the positives are only going up cos of increased testing

Ganted, I'm not sure it proves anything other than the statement we have more positives simply due to more testing is bollocks

[peelyfeet]

Hospitalizations are going up again in Europe. Spain had 184 deaths on Friday. Its mainly old people again. They think youngsters driving the infection rate aren't getting too ill, but are gradually infecting more oldies. 

[Escobarp]

1 minute ago, peelyfeet said:

Hospitalizations are going up again in Europe. Spain had 184 deaths on Friday. Its mainly old people again. They think youngsters driving the infection rate aren't getting too ill, but are gradually infecting more oldies. 

Which was always going to be the case and will be here. Which was why we locked down to protect the elderly. And sadly that decision is coming shortly on the horizon. Economy and jobs vs saving the elderly. Not just because a large number of younger folk don’t give a fuck but also because the elderly just don’t want to be locked away which is understandable.