Moderators Zico Posted March 23 Moderators Share Posted March 23 19 minutes ago, Cheese said: Can you not just read what he actually said and take it at face value? It's almost as though you're chomping at the bit for us to be financially fucked again. Yeah I can't wait All I've ever wanted is for us to fail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter FrancisFogarty Posted March 23 Site Supporter Share Posted March 23 Say what you like, smaller clubs are still recovering from covid. A club like us, already struggling to re establish ourselves. Easy to say but if that hadn’t happened we and FV would be on track for sustainability. Even with the points deduction. Even so, we’re still in a better position than a lot of sides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted March 23 Moderators Share Posted March 23 In the last year isgrove was on the payroll, our top paid player earned close to 400k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted March 23 Moderators Share Posted March 23 2 minutes ago, Casino said: In the last year isgrove was on the payroll, our top paid player earned close to 400k Who was on 8k a week? At one point I believe John and Lee were top on around 4.5k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderlust Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 Until we see the size of the anticipated trading loss it's all speculation - it might be a tenner or it might be 10 million. A loss at this stage is expected and there's not many clubs making a fortune anyway. What the message does do is manage expectations in the short term. It explains why we didn't sign the likes of Wilson and Baccus and hopefully it will stop folk whingeing about the signings we do make - so even if we do get promoted, we shouldn't be expecting much in the way of big money players. Promotion would bring in more income and possibly attract new investors, but we will struggle to compete financially especially against relegated clubs on parachute payments - we'll just have to continue working with what we can afford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted March 23 Site Supporter Share Posted March 23 We haven't yet started bringing through youngsters regularly. Either into the first team (reducing transfer fees) or selling onto lower teams for a little profit. Obviously, if one or two good first teamers go for good money, and profit, then that's also going to help. We've tended to bring in players for a while, who have done a job, and then gone. Not necessarily creating transfer revenue, but improving the team and getting us higher each time. If we don't go up this time, then I reckon one or two will be sold and we'll have to re-invent ourselves again. Which is fine as long as we keep improving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyther_Matt Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 6 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: We haven't yet started bringing through youngsters regularly. Either into the first team (reducing transfer fees) or selling onto lower teams for a little profit. Obviously, if one or two good first teamers go for good money, and profit, then that's also going to help. We've tended to bring in players for a while, who have done a job, and then gone. Not necessarily creating transfer revenue, but improving the team and getting us higher each time. If we don't go up this time, then I reckon one or two will be sold and we'll have to re-invent ourselves again. Which is fine as long as we keep improving. I don’t think we’re going to bring many through for a LONG time. Our best hope is picking up a Scouse or Manc rough diamond and then polishing them up. Essentially what we did with McAteer and Stubbs and, to a certain extent, what we’ve done with Charles and Thomason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Steejay Posted March 23 Site Supporter Share Posted March 23 57 minutes ago, Leyther_Matt said: I don’t think we’re going to bring many through for a LONG time. Our best hope is picking up a Scouse or Manc rough diamond and then polishing them up. Essentially what we did with McAteer and Stubbs and, to a certain extent, what we’ve done with Charles and Thomason. And what we did with Afolayan and sold him for fuck all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 8 hours ago, Zico said: Who was on 8k a week? At one point I believe John and Lee were top on around 4.5k Kachunga Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyther_Matt Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 4 minutes ago, Steejay said: And what we did with Afolayan and sold him for fuck all. Got half a mill more than we paid for him. Be interesting to know if there were any bonuses built in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted March 23 Author Share Posted March 23 4 minutes ago, Leyther_Matt said: Got half a mill more than we paid for him. Be interesting to know if there were any bonuses built in. Sell ons you mean? Iles reported recently if St Pauli go up we’re due a pay out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Biggish Dave Posted March 23 Site Supporter Share Posted March 23 5 minutes ago, Leyther_Matt said: Got half a mill more than we paid for him. Be interesting to know if there were any bonuses built in. Supposed to be a promotion bonus and percentage of sell on profit. No idea if it's true or the same as the famous Chelsea loan but have seen it reported. Promotion and Dapo selling for say £3m will prob give us 50p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted March 23 Moderators Share Posted March 23 17 minutes ago, radcliffe white said: Kachunga Unbelievable Jeff No wonder every one hated him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 23 minutes ago, Steejay said: And what we did with Afolayan and sold him for fuck all. Bought prolific Victor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyther_Matt Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 12 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Sell ons you mean? Iles reported recently if St Pauli go up we’re due a pay out. not necessarily a sell on as that would involve them, well, selling him but x amount for appearances, goals and promotion. Would expect so given even Anderson thought of that one with Holding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 9 hours ago, radcliffe white said: Kachunga Nope. Oddly I know what he was on. £250k a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted March 24 Moderators Share Posted March 24 6 minutes ago, tomski said: Nope. Oddly I know what he was on. £250k a year. Seems more in line with Lee and John So who was on 8k @Casino? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted March 24 Author Share Posted March 24 3 minutes ago, Zico said: Seems more in line with Lee and John So who was on 8k @Casino? Wasn’t it Bodvarsson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 22 minutes ago, tomski said: Nope. Oddly I know what he was on. £250k a year. 250k a year wow absolutely bonkers money well spent for about 5 decent games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 9 minutes ago, radcliffe white said: 250k a year wow absolutely bonkers money well spent for about 5 decent games In fact ignore me was working it back to front. Was £200k a year. Just cheered you up with £50 bags saved 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesince63 Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 19 hours ago, Wanderlust said: Until we see the size of the anticipated trading loss it's all speculation - it might be a tenner or it might be 10 million. A loss at this stage is expected and there's not many clubs making a fortune anyway. What the message does do is manage expectations in the short term. It explains why we didn't sign the likes of Wilson and Baccus and hopefully it will stop folk whingeing about the signings we do make - so even if we do get promoted, we shouldn't be expecting much in the way of big money players. Promotion would bring in more income and possibly attract new investors, but we will struggle to compete financially especially against relegated clubs on parachute payments - we'll just have to continue working with what we can afford. Agree Lusty and if we did get promotion all we’d have to do is survive, which I actually believe we’d do with what we have now. We might need a few “older heads” with experience but I think the sustainable route of using young players and developing them is the right way, short of some new mega bucks owner coming in. We just need to get there first and then we can look ahead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted March 24 Site Supporter Share Posted March 24 14 hours ago, Leyther_Matt said: I don’t think we’re going to bring many through for a LONG time. Our best hope is picking up a Scouse or Manc rough diamond and then polishing them up. Essentially what we did with McAteer and Stubbs and, to a certain extent, what we’ve done with Charles and Thomason. Correct. That is part of the model though, aiming for sustainability. Whether they're our own, or cast offs brought on, we will need to sell some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted March 24 Moderators Share Posted March 24 15 hours ago, radcliffe white said: Kachunga Im not naming names but the player is still with us And id expect hes on more now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 Surely Santos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 28 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: Surely Santos That’s was my guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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