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What an odd thread.

Anyway its a piece of pish, woolly bit of trying to grab a cheap headline bit of legislation and pretty much not inforceable, as is shown here identifying a 'hate' crime can be quite difficult or rather unless it's clear cut its can be a bit subjective. It's also not quite right to say, oooh this is just the right wing getting annoyed about nothing. I mean define a 'reasonable person' for me.

Oddly, it's like a dog whistle to the left.

What a strange world we now live in, mind you what a strange party the SNP are overall.

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56 minutes ago, frank_spencer said:

People also enjoy Mrs Browns Boys and Citizen Khan doesn't make it any good.

And clearly our Cheese has forgotten all about his arguments with me about McDonald's and I'm a celebrity :D

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1 hour ago, Not in Crawley said:

What an odd thread.

Anyway its a piece of pish, woolly bit of trying to grab a cheap headline bit of legislation and pretty much not inforceable, as is shown here identifying a 'hate' crime can be quite difficult or rather unless it's clear cut its can be a bit subjective. It's also not quite right to say, oooh this is just the right wing getting annoyed about nothing. I mean define a 'reasonable person' for me.

Oddly, it's like a dog whistle to the left.

What a strange world we now live in, mind you what a strange party the SNP are overall.

Aye

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37 minutes ago, only1swanny said:

There's a Wrexham fan whos been given a 3 year football ground ban for using the term "English Ba****ds" and "Scouse B******s"

 

taking it well too far that..

Quite literally, as this legistation stops at the Scottish border.

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8 hours ago, frank_spencer said:

People also enjoy Mrs Browns Boys and Citizen Khan doesn't make it any good.

Didn't say they were any good.

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7 hours ago, gonzo said:

And clearly our Cheese has forgotten all about his arguments with me about McDonald's and I'm a celebrity :D

Back in my WUM days that. I've matured since then. 🧀

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8 minutes ago, Duck Egg said:

 

😊 Not often that I watch stuff like that but it made me smile. 
Over 4000 complaints so far on this new bill. Mainly including JK Rowling. She ain’t even Scottish! ( A lot about the first minister also) 

The Scots used to complain about Westminster ‘trialling’ prospective policies on the good Scottish people. They seem to have taken it upon themselves to do the very same thing.😊

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Is it possible in a few lines to explain to somebody largely disinterested why Rowling is so controversial

What are her opinions...for a simpleton, please

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1 minute ago, Casino said:

Is it possible in a few lines to explain to somebody largely disinterested why Rowling is so controversial

What are her opinions...for a simpleton, please

She thinks men should be men and women should be women and all that caper and makes no apologies for it.

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7 minutes ago, gonzo said:

She thinks men should be men and women should be women and all that caper and makes no apologies for it.

Seems to have upset some Scottish folk though. Or maybe they aren’t Scottish. They really could be from anywhere in the world. That’s Social Media. That’s why this bill will never work. 

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27 minutes ago, Casino said:

Is it possible in a few lines to explain to somebody largely disinterested why Rowling is so controversial

What are her opinions...for a simpleton, please

In a nut shell..

Believes trans people should be able to live a safe and happy life, but are not women. She describes herself as a feminist,  and that calling a transgender person that erodes a part of being female. 

Mocked an article that referred to" women who menstruate"

Feels that as a biological woman, she wouldn't feel safe sharing facilities with transgender people, and cites her own experiences to back her opinion. 

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11 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

Seems to have upset some Scottish folk though. Or maybe they aren’t Scottish. They really could be from anywhere in the world. That’s Social Media. That’s why this bill will never work. 

Very true.

To be fair, I think she has been pretty rude to trans women but she firmly believes in biological sex which is fair enough.

One thing that made me think though was a caller to LBC a while back because it was from a trans woman, which she said she would always be, a trans woman not a women.

But, she was nearly 70 and had breasts and a vagina, so she was horrified at the prospect of being put on a male ward if she was admitted to hospital.

An isolated case at one time but there are now plenty more which I think needs thinking about. Some bloke in a swimsuit I don't have much empathy for though tbh.

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55 minutes ago, only1swanny said:

In a nut shell..

Believes trans people should be able to live a safe and happy life, but are not women. She describes herself as a feminist,  and that calling a transgender person that erodes a part of being female. 

Mocked an article that referred to" women who menstruate"

Feels that as a biological woman, she wouldn't feel safe sharing facilities with transgender people, and cites her own experiences to back her opinion. 

I think it was "people who menstruate"

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