Stockport County (A)

[tomski]

23 minutes ago, Ani said:

I was going to call you a daft twat for saying Granada covered those two but I checked and you are right.

They are the exceptions that prove the rule.

Good to see you Sunday BTW. I never found a seat ended up stood at the back hardly able to see anything 

Yeah likewise. 

We ended up at the back too. Impressively got soaked then burnt in one game. 

 

[Leyther_Matt]

54 minutes ago, Ani said:

I was going to call you a daft twat for saying Granada covered those two but I checked and you are right.

They are the exceptions that prove the rule.

Good to see you Sunday BTW. I never found a seat ended up stood at the back hardly able to see anything 

Fairly sure they used to cover Wrexham, too.

“Granada Goals Extra, sponsored by Elf Petrols and Oils”

[bwfc87]

7 hours ago, Whitesince63 said:

Fair points JR, we needed a goal and it may well have been an attacking substitution which might have worked. It would also explain that he wanted to keep Cogley on for defending but with Conway doing so well up and down that flank it still seemed an odd decision to me to take him off but those are the decisions SS is paid to make I suppose. I wonder sometimes though if SS has a problem with Max? In his summary yesterday he was slightly critical of Max for his shot that hit the woodwork saying he should have crossed the ball but as he was running he did clearly look across and there was nobody in a position to cross to and since he’d just run half the pitch why not shoot? I might be completely wrong but Schu does seem to pick the lad out for critique somewhat more than the others?

I’ve also noticed SS never seems to praise Conway and everything seems critical. Maybe it’s the man management style he thinks will work with Max to get him to improve, but it seems like he wouldn’t be in favour to play if he had more options. I actually think Conway looks a cracking prospect and is doing really well, hope he carries on and becomes a permanent first team member.

[Ani]

25 minutes ago, bwfc87 said:

I’ve also noticed SS never seems to praise Conway and everything seems critical. Maybe it’s the man management style he thinks will work with Max to get him to improve, but it seems like he wouldn’t be in favour to play if he had more options. I actually think Conway looks a cracking prospect and is doing really well, hope he carries on and becomes a permanent first team member.

Pissed me off when McAtee had a go at Conway for not crossing, was a good strike, certainly better than McAtees earlier.

Thought SS was wrong saying they had a shot from the edge of the area that led to a goal whereas our shot from same spot went wide. Their shot was mis hit and deflected, the Morley effort was inches wide and a better strike 

Was impressed with Conway, a few he won balls back defensively which did not seem to be the weakness people had said 

[Whitesince63]

59 minutes ago, bwfc87 said:

I’ve also noticed SS never seems to praise Conway and everything seems critical. Maybe it’s the man management style he thinks will work with Max to get him to improve, but it seems like he wouldn’t be in favour to play if he had more options. I actually think Conway looks a cracking prospect and is doing really well, hope he carries on and becomes a permanent first team member.

Glad it’s not just me 87 and like you I hope it’s just Schu trying to improve him. To be fair he does say it as it is rather than sugar coat so maybe that’s just Schu’s way? 🤷‍♂️

[DirtySanchez]

1 hour ago, Leyther_Matt said:

Fairly sure they used to cover Wrexham, too.

“Granada Goals Extra, sponsored by Elf Petrols and Oils”

Stoke and Port Vale got an unhealthy amount of coverage 

Stoke had Mark Stein and Wayne Biggins up top where as Vale had Robbie van der Laan 

I might have paid a fleeting glance to this when we played them but Granada really hammered it home 

[bolty58]

7 hours ago, tomski said:

Yeah likewise. 

Fair play. You both do come across as daft twats.

[boltonboris]

11 hours ago, Jol_BWFC said:

We’re 3 points off the top spot, with 45 games to play. Saw plenty to encourage me that when we get some strikers fit we’ll be in the mix.

Do you think having a better striker would have seen us win 3-2 on Sunday? 

I‘m not convinced. Until we get a dominant centre back (either signed or out of the physio room), then we’ll need a striker who can get us 40 goals a season as we’ll concede for fun again 

Edited August 5, 2025 by boltonboris

[boltonboris]

I’m confused as to why people are so desperate to move Sheehan on. We can’t have a midfield unit of like for like players. Hes completely different to the others and offers a different way of playing, that will be crucial in some games. 
 
He’ll make 40+ appearances this season, fitness permitting. And he’ll contribute as much, if not more, than any of the others. 
 

We’re a better football team with him in it and I’d bet he’ll excel with the likes of Simons or Erhahon beside him instead of Morley or Randall

[Ani]

31 minutes ago, boltonboris said:

I’m confused as to why people are so desperate to move Sheehan on. We can’t have a midfield unit of like for like players. Hes completely different to the others and offers a different way of playing, that will be crucial in some games. 
 
He’ll make 40+ appearances this season, fitness permitting. And he’ll contribute as much, if not more, than any of the others. 
 

We’re a better football team with him in it and I’d bet he’ll excel with the likes of Simons or Erhahon beside him instead of Morley or Randall

Because he really does not suit the way we are set up to play. Sunday highlighted this he was dropping deep to get the ball a couple of neat and tidy passes and then a short pass to nowhere. You say he is different to the others but that does not mean he fits in .

He has made 40 plus appearances every season he has been fit but hardly set the world on fire. Based on Sunday he should be 4th choice for the 2 midfield slots behind Simons , Erhahon and Morley. 
 

Maybe he could a job as the number 10 but in this system the 10 we need also needs to be more physical.  So bizarrely despite having a squad full of them not sure we have 1 good enough. 
 

For me Sheehan flatters to deceive, he has lots of nice and tidy touches but not enough game changing or influencing moments. The only question I have is that he has played apparently a slightly different role for Wales and looked effective. So could that work and fit in here.

I have him down as a sub at best and would have no issue him leaving if we also bought in a suitable replacement. 

[boltonboris]

We're not going to break teams down at home with the other 3. Sometimes, we'll need something different 

3 players is not enough for 2 spots over a potential 60 game season

[Jol_BWFC]

55 minutes ago, boltonboris said:

Do you think having a better striker would have seen us win 3-2 on Sunday? 

I‘m not convinced. Until we get a dominant centre back (either signed or out of the physio room), then we’ll need a striker who can get us 40 goals a season as we’ll concede for fun again 

With a better striker I think we’d have taken the lead and if we did, it would have been a different game. Going a goal up in games likes this makes a huge difference.

[Whitestar]

I’m confused as to why people are so desperate to move Sheehan on.

Because Nandos freezer is full of headless chickens, They're 10 a penny.

[Casino]

Sheehan a headless chicken?

Fucking hell, wtf am I reading

What a world

[ianofcleveleys]

33 minutes ago, Ani said:

I have him down as a sub at best and would have no issue him leaving if we also bought in a suitable replacement.

I think he's as capable if not more so than Randall or McAtee at playing the 10 role, though I get your point about the physicality aspect, but if someone were to come in and offer us decent money for him I'd take it and spend it on a bigger, more robust right back

[boltonboris]

3 minutes ago, ianofcleveleys said:

I think he's as capable if not more so than Randall or McAtee at playing the 10 role, though I get your point about the physicality aspect, but if someone were to come in and offer us decent money for him I'd take it and spend it on a bigger, more robust right back

His age won't command the decent fee that his ability would, but we'd have to replace him with another midfielder before we can hink about signing a right back in his place

[Big E]

14 minutes ago, ianofcleveleys said:

I think he's as capable if not more so than Randall or McAtee at playing the 10 role, though I get your point about the physicality aspect, but if someone were to come in and offer us decent money for him I'd take it and spend it on a bigger, more robust right back

That’s more down to mcatee and Randall being a big naff though rather than him being decent. 
 

 

[Ani]

48 minutes ago, boltonboris said:

We're not going to break teams down at home with the other 3. Sometimes, we'll need something different 

3 players is not enough for 2 spots over a potential 60 game season

Hence saying buy a replacement suited to the system we are now playing 

[Ani]

2 minutes ago, Big E said:

That’s more down to mcatee and Randall being a big naff though rather than him being decent. 
 

 

Tallest dwarf time 

[boltonboris]

3 minutes ago, Ani said:

Hence saying buy a replacement suited to the system we are now playing 

So 4 midfielders of the same style and no options to play differently? 
 

One thing we have seen from Scumacher is a willingness to use tactical flexibility. If something’s not working, like for like changes will not work 

[RUREADY2ROLL]

6 minutes ago, Big E said:

That’s more down to mcatee and Randall being a big naff though rather than him being decent. 
 

 

Ha but McAtee runs around a lot. He can’t control a ball, can’t head, can’t tackle and I could shoot better than him. He needs dropping out the squad and join Dan

[Big E]

6 minutes ago, Ani said:

Tallest dwarf time 

Agreed. 
 

good job we have CMG on the left or we would have been totally toothless 

[Ani]

47 minutes ago, Jol_BWFC said:

With a better striker I think we’d have taken the lead and if we did, it would have been a different game. Going a goal up in games likes this makes a huge difference.

I was very unimpressed with Burstow on Sunday whilst watching game in the ground, but watching it back he got 2 awful calls from the ref for the non penalty and then the foul on Norwood, he also had a few decent touches. Was not in the game much. 
 

Sounds like sour grapes but if the ref gets the penalty call right and sends the guy off then it is a different game 

[Ani]

4 minutes ago, boltonboris said:

So 4 midfielders of the same style and no options to play differently? 
 

I have never said that. 
 

Morley and Simons are different players. 

Did you watch the game Sunday ? If so how did Sheehan do ? 
 

A system can suit more than one type of player, without them being identi kit players. 
 

IMO Sheehan is not suited to how we want to play so we are better off with players who suit the system rather than good players who do not. 

[boltonboris]

2 minutes ago, Ani said:

I have never said that. 
 

Morley and Simons are different players. 

Did you watch the game Sunday ? If so how did Sheehan do ? 
 

A system can suit more than one type of player, without them being identi kit players. 
 

IMO Sheehan is not suited to how we want to play so we are better off with players who suit the system rather than good players who do not. 

I thought Sheehan was probably the best of the 4 that appeared and we wrestled back control of the game that had escaped us after half an hour of the first half. Got on the ball, moved it around and got the wide players back on the ball that they hadn't managed for a good half an hour previously. Put in a proper shite corner though, which is not exclusive to him