Politics

[kent_white]

6 hours ago, bolty58 said:

Keep em coming pal. You are helping more than you could ever comprehend.

Yes, I'm sure my meme on Wandererseays has been a massive vote swinger! 😁

[Traf]

6 minutes ago, Spider said:

Fortunately, reform are a bright bunch, so we’re all in safe hands.

 

Duh, I'm so fucking fick.

Although in fairness, it's UKIP under a new name and a different coloured rosette.

[Duck Egg]

According to Facebook, Reform have won both Westhoughton council seats.  The comments suggested the result will both make Keir step down and stop the boats.  I had no idea our parish Council was so pivotal.

[Traf]

2 minutes ago, Duck Egg said:

According to Facebook, Reform have won both Westhoughton council seats.  The comments suggested the result will both make Keir step down and stop the boats.  I had no idea our parish Council was so pivotal.

Has he gone yet?
Have the boats stopped?
Is anyone darker than a latte being rounded up yet?

[kent_white]

1 hour ago, Spider said:

Now reform are in charge of Astley bridge, I look forward to them stopping all the double parking outside the mosque on a Friday. Starting today.

Wonderful news to wake up to. Let's not be too hasty though Spider. He's inheriting a real mess caused variously by lefties in general, immigrants, two tier policing, unwarranted shame about the empire, a lack of visible flags, the demise of white dog poo, Councillor Chris Morris and far too little good, old fashioned common sense. 

Thankfully for the residents of Astley Bridge - 'good old fashioned common sense' is one of Ryan's stated best qualities. So we can all sleep easy in our beds. 

Obviously when Ryan turfs out all the 'slims - that's going to create a lot of space for us honkeys. So I'm a bit concerned about the impact on housing prices. But I have every faith that Ryan's good old fashioned common sense, intellectual prowess (and dare I say - impeccable dress sense) will lead us to the promised land. 

One happy Astley Bridgian (or whatever we're called) 😁

 

[BobyBrno]

3 minutes ago, kent_white said:

Wonderful news to wake up to. Let's not be too hasty though Spider. He's inheriting a real mess caused variously by lefties in general, immigrants, two tier policing, unwarranted shame about the empire, a lack of visible flags, the demise of white dog poo, Councillor Chris Morris and far too little good, old fashioned common sense. 

Thankfully for the residents of Astley Bridge - 'good old fashioned common sense' is one of Ryan's stated best qualities. So we can all sleep easy in our beds. 

Obviously when Ryan turfs out all the 'slims - that's going to create a lot of space for us honkeys. So I'm a bit concerned about the impact on housing prices. But I have every faith that Ryan's good old fashioned common sense, intellectual prowess (and dare I say - impeccable dress sense) will lead us to the promised land. 

One happy Astley Bridgian (or whatever we're called) 😁

 

Good lad Ryan. Bolton fan and owner of a watering hole for many on here. 

[Spider]

11 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

Good lad Ryan. Bolton fan and owner of a watering hole for many on here. 

Let’s hope he holds up well under scrutiny.

 

[Pablo]

Lots those old red areas....that got convinced to turn blue with the race-baiting tory bell ends, have now jumped to Reform.....well what a shock that is!!!!

Edited 3 hours ago by Pablo

[athywhite1958]

1 hour ago, Roger_Dubuis said:

Reform win 24 0f 25 seats in Wigan and 18 of 19 seats in Tameside

They don't like the new immigrants in Wigan and Angela Rayner in Tameside

Aye, we in Atherton have stayed loyal to the (Independent) fella who has worked hard for 14 years as our councillor, he is a good 'un Jamie

[little whitt]

8 minutes ago, athywhite1958 said:

Aye, we in Atherton have stayed loyal to the (Independent) fella who has worked hard for 14 years as our councillor, he is a good 'un Jamie

that could be the way Forward for a few MPs 

at the next GL

[Duck Egg]

53 minutes ago, Traf said:

Has he gone yet?
Have the boats stopped?
Is anyone darker than a latte being rounded up yet?

No boats spotted in Westhoughton so far, so perhaps they're getting things done. 

[Pablo]

3 hours ago, gonzo said:

Well on a national scale I don't actually think Labour could do much than they're doing with utter shit show they've been left behind.

Reform couldn't run the country. 

There's no fucker else to vote for.

Locally folk make protest votes but where I live will be Tory till the earth implodes. They've allowed houses near me to be built on flood plains and caused major issues. So they can fuck off. I wouldn't trust Reform to run my local council so it leaves Labour or Lib Dems. So it'd be one of those two depending on policy.

 

 

 

Labour have actually done lots of good things, and are 2/3 through the manifest already.

Starmer is just very unlikable, and many people just don't change opinions really.

They are just really really bad a shouting about it, they don't play the game well at all.

Zero social media pushing at all, and that's a big reason Reform are doing so well.

Its easy to shout what you would do if in charge, very easy....it makes great meme's and headlines....then gets shared by all the Keith's and Karen's.

Anyone who votes for Reform are people just want better for themselves and where they live, nothing wrong with that really - We all have our own view of what "better" is, and that's also fine.

I don't like how people fall out of how they vote these days.....we never really spoke about it years ago...we just voted and got on with work and lives, never knew or even cared what mates or family voted...its not my business.

[little whitt]

[mickbrown]

1 hour ago, kent_white said:

Wonderful news to wake up to. Let's not be too hasty though Spider. He's inheriting a real mess caused variously by lefties in general, immigrants, two tier policing, unwarranted shame about the empire, a lack of visible flags, the demise of white dog poo, Councillor Chris Morris and far too little good, old fashioned common sense. 

Thankfully for the residents of Astley Bridge - 'good old fashioned common sense' is one of Ryan's stated best qualities. So we can all sleep easy in our beds. 

Obviously when Ryan turfs out all the 'slims - that's going to create a lot of space for us honkeys. So I'm a bit concerned about the impact on housing prices. But I have every faith that Ryan's good old fashioned common sense, intellectual prowess (and dare I say - impeccable dress sense) will lead us to the promised land. 

One happy Astley Bridgian (or whatever we're called) 😁

 

Who squashed his head? Fucker looks like iggle piggle 

[Sweep]

1 hour ago, Spider said:

Let’s hope he holds up well under scrutiny.

 

They'll need to be given time, like Trump, only judge them at the end of their term, not immediately..........only Labour should be judged immediately.

[kent_white]

1 hour ago, BobyBrno said:

Good lad Ryan. Bolton fan and owner of a watering hole for many on here. 

Well I had no idea that his credentials were so diverse and applicable! 😁😉

He'll start with a clean slate with me - as all politicians do. 

[mickbrown]

Reform didn’t take control of a single council in Greater Manchester. 
 

 

[kent_white]

18 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

Reform didn’t take control of a single council in Greater Manchester. 
 

 

That shows the way the votes have fragmented I suppose. We probably need to get used to hung parliaments and councils with no overall control.

What this does tell me is that there is still hope for a charismatic, unifying leader to emerge in the centre before the next election. 

But it'll be a hell of a job. 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

25 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

Reform didn’t take control of a single council in Greater Manchester. 
 

 

Given that only a proportion of seats were available, that would be extremely difficult. 

The bigger picture shows a huge gain amongst those available. 

9 out of 20 in Bolton.

If that was to continue next time round, then the country would look very different. 

In Tameside, every seat available was won by Reform. Rayner's area.

Traditionally, a red wall, and one with a lot of Muslims.

To overturn that is remarkable. 

 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

8 minutes ago, kent_white said:

That shows the way the votes have fragmented I suppose. We probably need to get used to hung parliaments and councils with no overall control.

What this does tell me is that there is still hope for a charismatic, unifying leader to emerge in the centre before the next election. 

But it'll be a hell of a job. 

Still suggesting that Reform is this heavily a right wing party.

Yet it has gained numerous voters from Labour.

Almost entirely down to the immigration issue.

Immigration isn't (or shouldn't) be a political issue in terms of left or right.

Many of the voters clearly don't see it thar way, yet traditional parties don't grasp it.

[kent_white]

Just now, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Still suggesting that Reform is this heavily a right wing party.

Yet it has gained numerous voters from Labour.

Almost entirely down to the immigration issue.

Immigration isn't (or shouldn't) be a political issue in terms of left or right.

Many of the voters clearly don't see it thar way, yet traditional parties don't grasp it.

It is a heavily right wing party. Basing this on the fact that they want to....

Start mass deportations of irregular migrants 

Scrap net zero and increase gas/oil drilling

Have tougher sentencing, more police, expanded stop and search 

Leave the European Convention on Human Rights and repeal the Human Rights Act

Cut NHS funding by £26 billion and offer tax breaks for private healthcare

Cut public spending by nearly £300 billion

Most Reform voters stop reading after the first point though, sadly. 

[Sweep]

18 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Still suggesting that Reform is this heavily a right wing party.

Yet it has gained numerous voters from Labour.

Almost entirely down to the immigration issue.

Immigration isn't (or shouldn't) be a political issue in terms of left or right.

Many of the voters clearly don't see it thar way, yet traditional parties don't grasp it.

Anybody who think they aren't is a bit daft. Just look at their policies

[Bertie]

Ah well, time to join our Antipodean branch, crack open a few Foster tinnies and watch the country quickly get back on its feet. Britannia rules again 🥳 🇬🇧 

[Nowack]

3 hours ago, kent_white said:

Wonderful news to wake up to. Let's not be too hasty though Spider. He's inheriting a real mess caused variously by lefties in general, immigrants, two tier policing, unwarranted shame about the empire, a lack of visible flags, the demise of white dog poo, Councillor Chris Morris and far too little good, old fashioned common sense. 

Thankfully for the residents of Astley Bridge - 'good old fashioned common sense' is one of Ryan's stated best qualities. So we can all sleep easy in our beds. 

Obviously when Ryan turfs out all the 'slims - that's going to create a lot of space for us honkeys. So I'm a bit concerned about the impact on housing prices. But I have every faith that Ryan's good old fashioned common sense, intellectual prowess (and dare I say - impeccable dress sense) will lead us to the promised land. 

One happy Astley Bridgian (or whatever we're called) 😁

 

Ryan`s in for a bit of a shock when he finds out their is nothing he can do about planning and carrying out roadworks. In fact I`m not sure he can do anything about the local issues that he raises.

[kent_white]

4 minutes ago, Nowack said:

Ryan`s in for a bit of a shock when he finds out their is nothing he can do about planning and carrying out roadworks. In fact I`m not sure he can do anything about the local issues that he raises.

He IS going to 'passionately bring honesty' though 😁

Seriously - does nobody proof read these things? 

Only singling him out because he's won. The rest were just as shite.