Site Supporter Spider Posted May 16, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted May 16, 2023 14 minutes ago, globaldiver said: Looks like good news then. Better investment than a food bank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrelli Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 24 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said: I think you may have more faith in the great british public than I do at the moment. Well yes we do have some numpties but recent locals suggest the game is up for this lot. None of their policies are joined up and they are set for more infighting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 16 minutes ago, Farrelli said: Well yes we do have some numpties but recent locals suggest the game is up for this lot. None of their policies are joined up and they are set for more infighting. There was talk a couple of years ago of how the Labour Party may split........it's looking more likely that the Conservatives will split, as some of them think they're not leaving far enough to the right, and some think they need to be more central. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Not in Crawley said: But here's the thing, they aren't backtracking on the overall flawed leaving the EU strategy, it's all 'its failing because it's not being done the way I would' Absolutely - I guess the problem is that nobody ever said what "Brexit" would actually be. You have some who thought it was just about "getting control back" you had some who thought we'd leave, but nothing would change, as we'd still be trading in the same way we have done for many years, and you had some who thought we'd leave and the rest of the world would be battering our door down to offer free trade deals. Sadly, it seems that nobody seems to have got the Brexit that they voted for, and it's going quite badly at the minute. It will of course get sorted eventually, just not in the few weeks/months that dicks like David Davis said it would. You will though, still have some, who will claim it's going really well, and exactly as they expected it to, although that number of people is diminishing by the day Anyway, Farage needs to pipe down, he won, he needs to get over it - it's almost like he's trying to keep himself relevant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted May 16, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted May 16, 2023 51 minutes ago, Sweep said: Absolutely - I guess the problem is that nobody ever said what "Brexit" would actually be. You have some who thought it was just about "getting control back" you had some who thought we'd leave, but nothing would change, as we'd still be trading in the same way we have done for many years, and you had some who thought we'd leave and the rest of the world would be battering our door down to offer free trade deals. Sadly, it seems that nobody seems to have got the Brexit that they voted for, and it's going quite badly at the minute. It will of course get sorted eventually, just not in the few weeks/months that dicks like David Davis said it would. You will though, still have some, who will claim it's going really well, and exactly as they expected it to, although that number of people is diminishing by the day Anyway, Farage needs to pipe down, he won, he needs to get over it - it's almost like he's trying to keep himself relevant Absolute nonsense. Do you not remember the "Oven-Ready Deal" that won the Conservatives a massive majority? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyldesley_white Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 3 hours ago, Cheese said: Absolute nonsense. Do you not remember the "Oven-Ready Deal" that won the Conservatives a massive majority? Turkey who told people to vote for Christmas and said he would leave Blighty if Christmas failed, now says this wasn’t the Christmas he voted for and blames it on Santa and those pesky elves, so he is prepared to stay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted May 16, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted May 16, 2023 3 hours ago, Cheese said: Absolute nonsense. Do you not remember the "Oven-Ready Deal" that won the Conservatives a massive majority? 24 minutes ago, tyldesley_white said: Turkey who told people to vote for Christmas and said he would leave Blighty if Christmas failed, now says this wasn’t the Christmas he voted for and blames it on Santa and those pesky elves, so he is prepared to stay Maybe @SatanGreavsie wrote the “Ted Rogers” clue and the Brexiteers just won a Dusty Bin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
globaldiver Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
globaldiver Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 Just now, globaldiver said: Many of these wanted the country to spend more, it’s got to come from somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 Praise be. A graph that is well labelled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted May 16, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted May 16, 2023 29 minutes ago, globaldiver said: Many of these wanted the country to spend more, it’s got to come from somewhere. Can you add on a line that shows tax thresholds for a reasonable comparison? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
globaldiver Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 Just now, Spider said: Can you add on a line that shows tax thresholds for a reasonable comparison? Unlikely I’ll see; don’t wait up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Traf Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, Spider said: Doesn't it make you proud? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted May 16, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted May 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, Traf said: Doesn't it make you proud? That Ukraine war must have been going on loads longer than we thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 1 hour ago, globaldiver said: Many of these wanted the country to spend more, it’s got to come from somewhere. Just another Tory tax rise. Genius to let inflation run out of control to push more people into higher tax bracket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted May 16, 2023 Moderators Share Posted May 16, 2023 16 minutes ago, Ani said: Just another Tory tax rise. Genius to let inflation run out of control to push more people into higher tax bracket. And increase VAT receipts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 12 minutes ago, Casino said: And increase VAT receipts? Visionaries Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted May 16, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted May 16, 2023 18 minutes ago, Casino said: And increase VAT receipts? But but but there’s no money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted May 16, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted May 16, 2023 Bingo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted May 17, 2023 Members Share Posted May 17, 2023 19 hours ago, Spider said: “You’re erect Spider.” You are excited by my engaging with you. Go on, admit it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted May 17, 2023 Members Share Posted May 17, 2023 16 hours ago, Sweep said: Lord Gammon has, in a rare outbreak of telling the truth, suggested that Brexit (thus far) has failed.........he's correct that we've been let down by our own politicians during the process of leaving (although some will probably have you believe it's down to the ECHR and sinister slags) It is!!! Those plus a union led, anti democratic Civil Service. Drain the swamp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted May 17, 2023 Members Share Posted May 17, 2023 13 hours ago, Sweep said: Anyway, Farage needs to pipe down, he won, he needs to get over it - it's almost like he's trying to keep himself relevant He is more than just relevant. You really know this of course. With proportional representation would likely have involvement with somewhere around one fifth of the seats in Parliament. Starmer was all for PR until he started to believe that he may get a thumping victory (in no small way thanks to the implosion of the SNP). Hypocrisy on the sinister side of politics? Well I never. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted May 17, 2023 Members Share Posted May 17, 2023 7 hours ago, Traf said: Doesn't it make you proud? No. It makes me think how much that graph looks like the one showing increased immigration figures over the same period. What a coincidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayjayoghani Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 15 hours ago, Sweep said: There was talk a couple of years ago of how the Labour Party may split........it's looking more likely that the Conservatives will split, as some of them think they're not leaving far enough to the right, and some think they need to be more central. Not with the current electoral system. These extreme factions have to align themselves with more moderate parties to have any chance of influence. Same applies Labour, Conservative doesn't matter. The answer is PR. The country needs it and fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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