kent_white Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 While we're on the subject of GG. I saw in his post election interview with Sky News that his proposed solution to the Israel/Palestine problems is the creation of one state, incorporating all the existing territories where all religions and ethnicities live side by side and are given equal rights and responsibilities. Huge ask at the moment clearly - but what do we think about the idea in principle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted March 4 Moderators Share Posted March 4 13 minutes ago, kent_white said: While we're on the subject of GG. I saw in his post election interview with Sky News that his proposed solution to the Israel/Palestine problems is the creation of one state, incorporating all the existing territories where all religions and ethnicities live side by side and are given equal rights and responsibilities. Huge ask at the moment clearly - but what do we think about the idea in principle? Sounds radical, it sounds great, but you need to show me some evidence it's worked elsewhere first Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 12 minutes ago, Zico said: Sounds radical, it sounds great, but you need to show me some evidence it's worked elsewhere first He made the comparison with South Africa which I don't think works as an analogy (although I can see what he's driving at). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted March 4 Moderators Share Posted March 4 38 minutes ago, kent_white said: Huge ask at the moment clearly - but what do we think about the idea in principle? sounds fantastic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 The idea behind the creation of Israel was that it give Jews a safe haven from persecution For that reason alone, I couldn't see a viable single state solution But also it wouldn't be viable whilst the Palestinian militia groups and the rabid antisemitism in that part of the world exists Perhaps in a few hundred years' time if the planet's still hospitable by then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted March 4 Moderators Share Posted March 4 4 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: The idea behind the creation of Israel was that it give Jews a safe haven from persecution For that reason alone, I couldn't see a viable single state solution But also it wouldn't be viable whilst the Palestinian militia groups and the rabid antisemitism in that part of the world exists Perhaps in a few hundred years' time if the planet's still hospitable by then i notice no mention of some of the shit that israel and its state run terror group get up to thats another reason it wouldnt work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted March 4 Moderators Share Posted March 4 40 minutes ago, kent_white said: He made the comparison with South Africa which I don't think works as an analogy (although I can see what he's driving at). my joky point was are there any countries where all religions and ethnicities live side by side and are given equal rights and responsibilities? does such a place really exist? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 3 minutes ago, Zico said: my joky point was are there any countries where all religions and ethnicities live side by side and are given equal rights and responsibilities? does such a place really exist? There's always going to be tensions I suppose. Whenever there's a mix of different types of people living in the same place. Northern Ireland might be a good example of one that works in recent memory, but I doubt the divisions are on the same scale. Especially now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 50 minutes ago, Casino said: i notice no mention of some of the shit that israel and its state run terror group get up to thats another reason it wouldnt work That as well but I was thinking of the biggest obstacles on each side Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 3 hours ago, kent_white said: While we're on the subject of GG. I saw in his post election interview with Sky News that his proposed solution to the Israel/Palestine problems is the creation of one state, incorporating all the existing territories where all religions and ethnicities live side by side and are given equal rights and responsibilities. Huge ask at the moment clearly - but what do we think about the idea in principle? It is like saying we are going to have everybody's favourite flavour of ice cream available all the time in unlimited supply. Probably for free, sounds like a good idea but just won't happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted March 4 Site Supporter Share Posted March 4 Northern Ireland has been a great success. The worst that happens now is English lads piling up to Glasgow singing songs about 400 year old battles. Other than that, it’s hardly a warzone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 On 02/03/2024 at 09:37, BobyBrno said: As I said last night, Bolton South has and probably always will be, Labour.👍 Being from North Bolton, I wouldnt know ☹️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted March 5 Members Share Posted March 5 16 hours ago, kent_white said: While we're on the subject of GG. I saw in his post election interview with Sky News that his proposed solution to the Israel/Palestine problems is the creation of one state, incorporating all the existing territories where all religions and ethnicities live side by side and are given equal rights and responsibilities. Huge ask at the moment clearly - but what do we think about the idea in principle? Cloud cuckoo land. Thousands of years of enmity and they will live together in perfect harmony? Maybe this could be the national anthem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 35 minutes ago, bolty58 said: Cloud cuckoo land. Thousands of years of enmity and they will live together in perfect harmony? Maybe this could be the national anthem? OK Alan 🤣 What a constant basic idiot he is. Yer big racist. Mind you, I'm not sure irony is the fat Australians thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crawshawbooth Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 It would be nice to get over the religions thing, These people are just stuck in centuries old beliefs , praying to the sky And then straight to a moblle phone screen the second they are done Why did the almighty power not give us phones from day one , they might have lost interest in praying by now ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 The brassneck of Hunt now to pat himself on the back for the growing creative industries when they had slashed and cut and run culture war on us all for the past 13 years. Just fuck off, you won't be buying us that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 On 04/03/2024 at 09:01, kent_white said: While we're on the subject of GG. I saw in his post election interview with Sky News that his proposed solution to the Israel/Palestine problems is the creation of one state, incorporating all the existing territories where all religions and ethnicities live side by side and are given equal rights and responsibilities. Huge ask at the moment clearly - but what do we think about the idea in principle? What does he suggest they do with Hamas to facilitate that possibility, given that Hamas stated policy is to wipe out all Jews and Israel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zulu Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 38 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said: The brassneck of Hunt now to pat himself on the back for the growing creative industries when they had slashed and cut and run culture war on us all for the past 13 years. Just fuck off, you won't be buying us that way. Us? 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little whitt Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Are the WW £150 club any better Off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 9 minutes ago, Zulu said: Us? 🤣 Yes, those who work in the creative industries. Honestly, its not that difficult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little whitt Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Starmer is Giving it to them now About time he gets stuck in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Starmer doing a second half at Barnsley at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zulu Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 7 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said: Yes, those who work in the creative industries. Honestly, its not that difficult. What, people like me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 3 minutes ago, Zulu said: What, people like me? Hey if work in the CI and have swallowed the crap and funding cuts over the last 13 years AND still think this is a long term plan that's been annouced today then good for you, but you'd be very much in the minority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zulu Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Just now, Not in Crawley said: Hey if work in the CI and have swallowed the crap and funding cuts over the last 13 years AND still think this is a long term plan that's been annouced today then good for you, but you'd be very much in the minority. So, not really ’us’ then? You mean ’you’ and others who share your opinions. I would agree that you share the majority view, but that’s not what you said. Honestly, it’s not that difficult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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