Traf Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 7 hours ago, Winchester White said: I see that due to the tax thresholds being frozen again, most folk will see little to nothing of this 2p NI reduction. Those on low/no income and those on state pension won't benefit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted March 7 Members Share Posted March 7 (edited) 11 hours ago, Sweep said: to be fair, some are changing, even @bolty58who was as die hard a Tory as there is, has gone from having a permanent hard on at Boris being in charge, to now saying even he wouldn't vote Conservative this time around. So perhaps people can and are willing to change their mind (like @Spiderdid 😉) There is a huge difference, as well you know, between supporting a proper conservative party instead of what is effectively Labour Lite and mistakenly placing your cross in the wrong box in a binary choice. In Spiders case, choices absolutely must be non-binary. Just ask they/them. Edited March 7 by bolty58 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted March 7 Members Share Posted March 7 10 hours ago, Sweep said: I'm not sure who will be standing, Labour don't usually bother here (not that I'd vote for them anyway) - I'll see nearer the time, when I know who is actually standing. Possibly Green, LibDem, Independent or even Reform - anybody but the Conservatives really (and I've previously voted Conservative every time I've ever voted before in GEs and locals) Just veer away from the Commies masquerading as environmentalist Greens and the Liberal Undemocrats and you'll be reet pal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted March 7 Site Supporter Share Posted March 7 3 hours ago, bolty58 said: There is a huge difference, as well you know, between supporting a proper conservative party instead of what is effectively Labour Lite and mistakenly placing your cross in the wrong box in a binary choice. In Spiders case, choices absolutely must be non-binary. Just ask they/them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jol_BWFC Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 (edited) 5 hours ago, Traf said: Those on low/no income and those on state pension won't benefit. One report I heard yesterday said anyone earning less than £26k would be worse off under the budget. That’s 1/3 of workers and likely the 1/3 that need it most. Edited March 7 by Jol_BWFC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrelli Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 This shower should not have been allowed another budget. Every public service in disarray and they have cut council funding to such an extent that we are all paying more to receive less. Many on low incomes have to choose between food or heating. Pot holes are so bad you run the risk of needing a new tyre on every journey. Public transport is terrible outside of London. The Tories have wrecked the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 6 hours ago, Traf said: Those on low/no income and those on state pension won't benefit. My wife’s part time worker shes no better or worse off. I’m better off by £1500… doesn’t offset the 6k extra per year I’m paying for my mortgage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 41 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: My wife’s part time worker shes no better or worse off. I’m better off by £1500… doesn’t offset the 6k extra per year I’m paying for my mortgage. You’re £1500 better off from a small cut in NI? Lucky you. This is just another Tory policy that widens the gap, sadly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 43 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: My wife’s part time worker shes no better or worse off. I’m better off by £1500… doesn’t offset the 6k extra per year I’m paying for my mortgage. Blimey, that's some hike. My mates has just gone up a touch over £12K per year, since last month, so he's really feeling it I've had a look, and apparently I'll be £754 a year better off as a result of the 2% cut yesterday - which is nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 2 minutes ago, Traf said: You’re £1500 better off from a small cut in NI? Lucky you. This is just another Tory policy that widens the gap, sadly. I thought the maximum was £754, I'm probably wrong though - unless @Mounts Kipperis also counting the 2% cut that we had a few months ago as well maybe?!?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jol_BWFC Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 48 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: My wife’s part time worker shes no better or worse off. I’m better off by £1500… doesn’t offset the 6k extra per year I’m paying for my mortgage. 2 minutes ago, Sweep said: Blimey, that's some hike. My mates has just gone up a touch over £12K per year, since last month, so he's really feeling it I've had a look, and apparently I'll be £754 a year better off as a result of the 2% cut yesterday - which is nice. Indeed, I think it’s limited to £754. Also, the fact that the Conservatives continue to freeze the income tax bands rather than increase them in line with inflation will probably cost you much more than that saving. Winners and losers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 24 minutes ago, Traf said: You’re £1500 better off from a small cut in NI? Lucky you. This is just another Tory policy that widens the gap, sadly. It’s the first time I’ve ever been a winner. But it’s small fry compared to everything else that I and everyone else is paying more for, due to inflation and interest rate rises. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 22 minutes ago, Sweep said: I thought the maximum was £754, I'm probably wrong though - unless @Mounts Kipperis also counting the 2% cut that we had a few months ago as well maybe?!?! Just did the guardian budget checker and that’s what it said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 5 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Just did the guardian budget checker and that’s what it said. fair enough - the sites I look at say it's capped at £754. I guess we'll soon find out in our pay packets 😉 As @Trafstates though, it does seem to benefit higher earners rather than the lower earners.....which I don't mind, but it does widen that gap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 11 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Just did the guardian budget checker and that’s what it said. I've just done that, it's quite good - obviously it's looking at more than just the NI, that is capped at £754 Apparently I'm £1319.50 better off, and Mrs Sweep is £610.50 better off - although I'm sure she'll find a way of ensuring I actually end up with less money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 45 minutes ago, Sweep said: I've just done that, it's quite good - obviously it's looking at more than just the NI, that is capped at £754 Apparently I'm £1319.50 better off, and Mrs Sweep is £610.50 better off - although I'm sure she'll find a way of ensuring I actually end up with less money Sounds good eh? Do it on the sky website for a shock. It offsets it as if the tax thresholds had risen in line with inflation, which they fucking should do Me and the missus together are about £3 a month better off with that chucked in Smoke and mirrors, he’s giving everyone the square root of fuck all So, just for the avoidance of doubt, fuck Hunt and fuck the Tories Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little whitt Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 48 minutes ago, Sweep said: I've just done that, it's quite good - obviously it's looking at more than just the NI, that is capped at £754 Apparently I'm £1319.50 better off, and Mrs Sweep is £610.50 better off - although I'm sure she'll find a way of ensuring I actually end up with less money Car ins is up 30-40% Council tax is up 5-10% Mortgage's are up and a tin of Heinz Tomato Soup is £1.70p a Tin So who is realey better off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Here you go. Sorry to piss on everybody’s chips https://news.sky.com/story/budget-2024-see-whether-you-win-or-lose-from-tax-and-national-insurance-tweaks-13088372 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 33 minutes ago, mickbrown said: Here you go. Sorry to piss on everybody’s chips https://news.sky.com/story/budget-2024-see-whether-you-win-or-lose-from-tax-and-national-insurance-tweaks-13088372 Yup - £62.74 worse off every month. But my mrs is £62.71 better off every month so that's a net loss of 3p As you say the rest is just flim flam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobyBrno Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 5 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said: Yup - £62.74 worse off every month. But my mrs is £62.71 better off every month so that's a net loss of 3p As you say the rest is just flim flam Tax dodger! 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainmed Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Not even looked at the budget. All parties are lying scumbags anyway. The UK has been fucked for years and will only get worse and worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 50 minutes ago, mickbrown said: Here you go. Sorry to piss on everybody’s chips https://news.sky.com/story/budget-2024-see-whether-you-win-or-lose-from-tax-and-national-insurance-tweaks-13088372 Boo... according to that Mrs Sweep is £12.71 per month better off, whilst I'm £62.76 worse off each month Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 3 minutes ago, BobyBrno said: Tax dodger! 😉 If I end up being a homeless mime in covent garden because of that 3p, then I'll expect a hefty note in my cap as I pass it round next time you're down 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 People earning more than £131,000 or between £32,000 and £55,000 win from the government's tax changes, but everyone else is paying more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Just now, little whitt said: Car ins is up 30-40% Council tax is up 5-10% Mortgage's are up and a tin of Heinz Tomato Soup is £1.70p a Tin So who is realey better off Whitt gets it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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