Politics

[miamiwhite]

28 minutes ago, Cheese said:

The EU is beholden to 27 countries, the Czech Republic being one of them. Nor did they agree a Treaty, only to then retrospectively try to insert clauses that could result in them breaking International Law. It's all well and good behaving like a bunch of cunts to please your swivel-eyed followers, but the reputation of the nation suffers in the long run.

Like the EU have never broken international laws, you whopper 😄 

[Mounts Kipper]

14 minutes ago, boogs said:

Hope you've got a hard hat on mounts. 

It’s a fair question. 

[boogs]

5 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

It’s a fair question. 

Maybe so. I'm merely pointing out, light heartedly I add, that given the your twos history and his understandable mood that you may not get a fair response 😁

[Escobarp]

Just putting this out there. If on Sunday they decide a deal can’t be done then should we try and extend for a year and hold a vote. No deal or remain?

[Spider]

22 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Could you not of ordered earlier? 

Oh god

They have been sending more and more shipments to us.

But we can’t simply say “send everything you have” for several reasons which - as an importer yourself - should be really really obvious.

The shipment due on the 4th has always been due on the 4th. That cannot be moved forward because they do have other customers too. They have a large logistical operation to run that can accommodate shifting order patterns, but not deal with  a border that may or may not be open.

We do know how to run a fucking business.

The supplier doesn’t just supply us.

[Spider]

I’m beginning to think that when Mounts says he’s a buyer, he just does the shopping with an allowance his wife gives him.

Stockpiling bog roll isn’t really the same thing as shifting millions of quids worth of steel around Europe.

[Mounts Kipper]

9 minutes ago, Spider said:

Oh god

They have been sending more and more shipments to us.

But we can’t simply say “send everything you have” for several reasons which - as an importer yourself - should be really really obvious.

The shipment due on the 4th has always been due on the 4th. That cannot be moved forward because they do have other customers too. They have a large logistical operation to run that can accommodate shifting order patterns, but not deal with  a border that may or may not be open.

We do know how to run a fucking business.

The supplier doesn’t just supply us.

I’m not understanding why you couldn’t order earlier and take delivery before the 1st Jan, Im assuming cash flow might have been the problem but surely an order placed earlier meaning the goods could be shipped to land say mid December especially knowing that a trade deal hasn’t been stuck was the sensible thing to do.  Anyhow sorry it’s gone tits up. 

Edited December 10, 2020 by Mounts Kipper

[Spider]

Just now, Mounts Kipper said:

I’m not understanding why you couldn’t order earlier and take delivery before the 1st Jan, Im assuming cash flow might have been the problem but surely an order placed earlier meaning the goods could be shipped to land say mid December especially knowing that a trade deal hasn’t been stuck. Anyhow sorry it’s gone tits up. 

We’ve had a delivery this week

Its as much as they can give us at this time

Remember, they have to manufacture it. 
demand is high generally. There are limits.

Im trying to keep this as simple as I can, honestly.

[Zico]

1 minute ago, Mounts Kipper said:

I’m not understanding why you couldn’t order earlier and take delivery before the 1st Jan, Im assuming cash flow might have been the problem but surely an order placed earlier meaning the goods could be shipped to land say mid December especially knowing that a trade deal hasn’t been stuck was the sensible thing to do.  Anyhow sorry it’s gone tits up. 

Don't apologise, he voted for this

[Spider]

3 minutes ago, ZicoKelly said:

Don't apologise, he voted for this

😁

winners win

[miamiwhite]

6 minutes ago, ZicoKelly said:

Don't apologise, he voted for this

That tickled me 😄 

[kent_white]

19 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

Just putting this out there. If on Sunday they decide a deal can’t be done then should we try and extend for a year and hold a vote. No deal or remain?

I genuinely don't think the country could cope with that.

Although I'm pretty sure if the choice was put to the electorate back at the outset with options that were either remain or leave with no deal - we'd have chosen the former.

[Sweep]

26 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

Just putting this out there. If on Sunday they decide a deal can’t be done then should we try and extend for a year and hold a vote. No deal or remain?

Boris has already said categorically that we will not extend.

Anyway, fuck having another vote, we'll end up with "best of three" or some other nonsense.

[miamiwhite]

6 minutes ago, kent_white said:

I genuinely don't think the country could cope with that.

Although I'm pretty sure if the choice was put to the electorate back at the outset with options that were either remain or leave with no deal - we'd have chosen the former.

Or remain with becoming part of a federal load of guff........just for balance young man 

[kent_white]

2 minutes ago, miamiwhite said:

Or remain with becoming part of a federal load of guff........just for balance young man 

However you want to phrase it - I still think we'd have voted to stay.

Anyway - here we are. We're all going to find out whether we were right or not relatively soon. 

Like I've said all along - I genuinely hope you lot are right and I'm worrying about nothing.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

9 minutes ago, kent_white said:

I genuinely don't think the country could cope with that.

Although I'm pretty sure if the choice was put to the electorate back at the outset with options that were either remain or leave with no deal - we'd have chosen the former.

Probably, though at that point the concept of a deal was an unknown, and couldn't be known until negotiations started. Ideals are one thing, but until agreements are made, we don't know what they look like.

Obvioulsy couldn't start negotiations prior to a referendum.

Similarly, the concept of a no deal, even now, is subject to interpretation, depending upon your point of view.

Certainly no mood for another referendum, and would risk wide ranging civil disobedience. 

 

[miamiwhite]

1 minute ago, kent_white said:

However you want to phrase it - I still think we'd have voted to stay.

Anyway - here we are. We're all going to find out whether we were right or not relatively soon. 

Like I've said all along - I genuinely hope you lot are right and I'm worrying about nothing.

Now now, Mick Frown will moan if you say 'your lot'

[Dimron]

Taking back an individual State's Sovereignty has a price over belonging to a global trading bloc. That price was never properly determined, unfortunately if that price is now seen as too much our politicians cannot say "okay, we'll stay in" because that will be the end of their careers. We're now stuck with guys trying to piss higher up the wall than the others.

Brexit was built on two pillars, the money we spend on EU Membership can be saved and Johnny Foreigner will not want to lose his export market so it'll be win and win, eating the cake and so on... trouble is Covid has virtually destroyed all markets so the 27 States of the EU have to rebuild with or without us in the equation which destroys the second critical pillar of Brexit.

 

 

 

[Winchester White]

37 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

Just putting this out there. If on Sunday they decide a deal can’t be done then should we try and extend for a year and hold a vote. No deal or remain?

Not sure that would fly, I think Mounts would self combust.

Wonder what the odds would be of leaving with no deal, the economy goes to shit (even more than it is already) with the perfect storm of Brexit, Covid & Boris' wank cabinet. Boris then fucks off after 3 months after losing a vote of no confidence.

 

 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

10 minutes ago, kent_white said:

However you want to phrase it - I still think we'd have voted to stay.

Anyway - here we are. We're all going to find out whether we were right or not relatively soon. 

Like I've said all along - I genuinely hope you lot are right and I'm worrying about nothing.

The way things are at the moment, I reckon working in the nhs is probably as secure a job/career as there is.

[kent_white]

Just now, Tonge moor green jacket said:

The way things are at the moment, I reckon working in the nhs is probably as secure a job/career as there is.

I think you're probably right. I'm counting myself extremely lucky. I still think a lot of services could go though. Important services too!

[Duck Egg]

52 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

Just putting this out there. If on Sunday they decide a deal can’t be done then should we try and extend for a year and hold a vote. No deal or remain?

I think the vast majority of the UK would be like a tramp on chips for that option now.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

2 minutes ago, kent_white said:

I think you're probably right. I'm counting myself extremely lucky. I still think a lot of services could go though. Important services too!

Got any jobs? 😁 

No deal will certainly yield plenty of upheaval. How quickly the economy responds, who knows.

Still have a feeling something will happen- last night's dinner may not have yielded a massive breakthrough, but they did send the negotiators back in, after they had effectively got to a stalemate. Perhaps a bit more leeway was given to them by the turbot scoffers. (Which might be off a lot of European menus in a couple of weeks)

[Dimron]

14 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

Not sure that would fly, I think Mounts would self combust.

Wonder what the odds would be of leaving with no deal, the economy goes to shit (even more than it is already) with the perfect storm of Brexit, Covid & Boris' wank cabinet. Boris then fucks off after 3 months after losing a vote of no confidence.

 

 

I wouldn't be surprised if Johnson fucks off after Brexit is done and dusted, he's done his bit and I hear he is complaining about being overworked and underpaid, can't pay the Nanny etc. etc. The columns etc. were paying him hundreds of thousands... self serving bastard like the rest of them.

We've made our nest and now we need to lie in it and make a job of whatever we can

Edited December 10, 2020 by Dimron

[Mounts Kipper]

6 minutes ago, Duck Egg said:

I think the vast majority of the UK would be like a tramp on chips for that option now.

I don’t.