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[Ani]

10 hours ago, miamiwhite said:

Interesting if true. Bannerman states in the replies that it is

 

 

Hopefully good news. Report produced in August. Needs updating to reflect the actual deal that has been done. But sounds good. 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

11 hours ago, Traf said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34638831

An interesting read.

Not a case of the mps disagreeing with the sentiment. 

Seems they didn't want to be forced to go down a route that would likely be unsuccessful. 

Of course, if you dont buy a ticket etc..

Around this time Cameron was unable to get any concessions from the EU of anything of note, and we had a referendum.

Begs the question why did the EU ever have the tax in the first place?

 

[miamiwhite]

1 hour ago, Ani said:

Hopefully good news. Report produced in August. Needs updating to reflect the actual deal that has been done. But sounds good. 

Like I say pal, Bannerman mentions in the replies re it being the actual deal the report refers to.

[tomski]

13 hours ago, miamiwhite said:

Interesting if true. Bannerman states in the replies that it is

 

 

That’s good news

[Mounts Kipper]

Disappointing that we’ve not included finance in the final deal. already costing the exchequer. 
 

https://t.co/4mx9hOzDHD

 

 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Initial bumps.

They'll reach a memorandum of understanding on terms for services fairly soon I'm sure.

As the deal has been agreed by all, there's nothing to be achieved by fucking about.

[Mounts Kipper]

15 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Initial bumps.

They'll reach a memorandum of understanding on terms for services fairly soon I'm sure.

As the deal has been agreed by all, there's nothing to be achieved by fucking about.

Let’s hope so, we know there will be wins & losses but this needs addressing and dealing with ASAP. 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

11 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Let’s hope so, we know there will be wins & losses but this needs addressing and dealing with ASAP. 

Sure I heard on one of the reports that services (financial iirc) aren't usually included in fta so no great surprise it takes longer if that's true.

[Escobarp]

50 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Sure I heard on one of the reports that services (financial iirc) aren't usually included in fta so no great surprise it takes longer if that's true.

Tried to say other day it can’t be covered by an FTA in reality. Well it can but it’s pointless without tying in the regulators which isn’t possible. That’s the reason it wasn’t included. 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

36 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

Tried to say other day it can’t be covered by an FTA in reality. Well it can but it’s pointless without tying in the regulators which isn’t possible. That’s the reason it wasn’t included. 

How will this memorandum of understanding work then- a loose agreement that both regulators nod through?

[Escobarp]

11 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

How will this memorandum of understanding work then- a loose agreement that both regulators nod through?

There needs to be an overarching agreement that allows it to happen as in free trade if you like.  But ultimately it’s upto each country or member state whatever you want to call Them what their rules are and who they let trade there from an FS perspective.

im over simplifying something that’s actually really complex but you get my drift but others  can probably shed much more light on it 

[miamiwhite]

Regardless of Brexit, good news for anyone locally in the industry 

 

https://newsroom.mbda-systems.com/uk-orders-production-of-mbda-spear-mini-cruise-missile/

[kent_white]

14 minutes ago, miamiwhite said:

Regardless of Brexit, good news for anyone locally in the industry 

 

https://newsroom.mbda-systems.com/uk-orders-production-of-mbda-spear-mini-cruise-missile/

I couldn't work for a company like that for all the money in the world.

Be like working for Marlboro.

[Not in Crawley]

7 hours ago, kent_white said:

I couldn't work for a company like that for all the money in the world.

Be like working for Marlboro.

When I was meeting recruitment consultants in the summer I got put forward for a job with British American Tabacco. I didn't get it but I have to say, I would have been tested if they had offered it to me, the pay was eye watering. It was looking at their oversees markets for growth. Glad I didn't have to make the choice in the end, as I probably know what I would have said.

 

[Guest]

28 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

When I was meeting recruitment consultants in the summer I got put forward for a job with British American Tabacco. I didn't get it but I have to say, I would have been tested if they had offered it to me, the pay was eye watering. It was looking at their oversees markets for growth. Glad I didn't have to make the choice in the end, as I probably know what I would have said.

 

Where do I sign?

[Youri McAnespie]

3 hours ago, boltondiver said:

Where do I sign?

Luke 16:13.

I hope you like red-hot pokers.

 

[Sweep]

11 hours ago, miamiwhite said:

Regardless of Brexit, good news for anyone locally in the industry 

 

https://newsroom.mbda-systems.com/uk-orders-production-of-mbda-spear-mini-cruise-missile/

They're a great company MBDA, I've a friend who works for them, they pay huge wages and bonuses and offer some great perks, and it's  pretty much a job for life as well.

He always gets quite excited when he hears of a war anywhere in the world, as it generally means extra revenue for them. At present, their sales are through the floor though, as Governments aren't spending any money on defence (for obvious reasons)

[Ani]

On 05/01/2021 at 20:23, Escobarp said:

There needs to be an overarching agreement that allows it to happen as in free trade if you like.  But ultimately it’s upto each country or member state whatever you want to call Them what their rules are and who they let trade there from an FS perspective.

im over simplifying something that’s actually really complex but you get my drift but others  can probably shed much more light on it 

The issue in financial services and regulation is stopping dirty money getting into the system. The City of London is regarded as one of the least regulated and controlled markets in the world.  Some people would argue that the tightening on Fin Serv regulations was the major driver behind lots of money getting behind the Leave campaign but let’s not go there again. 
Also a lot of the services such a share trading is pretty easy to switch over.  So if at the flick of a switch you can run your operation through Germany or France why would nt you. 
 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

55 minutes ago, Sweep said:

They're a great company MBDA, I've a friend who works for them, they pay huge wages and bonuses and offer some great perks, and it's  pretty much a job for life as well.

He always gets quite excited when he hears of a war anywhere in the world, as it generally means extra revenue for them. At present, their sales are through the floor though, as Governments aren't spending any money on defence (for obvious reasons)

Lad was looking at applying for an apprenticeship with them a while back. We researched the company and the money and package were tremendous. 

I understand kent's point, but we need to be able to protect ourselves, so its useful to have a world leader helping. 

[Sweep]

38 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Lad was looking at applying for an apprenticeship with them a while back. We researched the company and the money and package were tremendous. 

I understand kent's point, but we need to be able to protect ourselves, so its useful to have a world leader helping. 

True, but they sell all over the world, and we do sometimes get them chucked back at us as well 🙂

It's actually quite interesting listening to my mate about the politics of it all, and hearing stories how some of these things end up with "rogue" nations. 

I know Brexit is still a worry for MBDA, as they do a bit of trade with the European countries (although the bulk is domestic and elsewhere), and their biggest competitor is EU based Thales, who are French. So they still don't know how that will pan out, they lost a few orders towards the backend of 2020, but hopefully now the deal is signed and looks OK, they can start to get some business back

What is eye watering, is the cost of some of these missiles, some of them can easily be £1M per pop

 

I visit them two or three times a year, and handily they're only about 10 miles from my house. I've never really had anything decent, order wise, out of them, but they have a cracking canteen, so always make sure I plan a visit for around 11:30, so I can get some lunch. On the way in, I have to surrender my laptop and mobile phone, and if wearing a smart-watch I have to hand that in as well - they're a bit security conscious

[H]

45 minutes ago, Sweep said:

What is eye watering, is the cost of some of these missiles, some of them can easily be £1M per pop

And they only go pop once

[Tonge moor green jacket]

1 hour ago, Sweep said:

True, but they sell all over the world, and we do sometimes get them chucked back at us as well 🙂

It's actually quite interesting listening to my mate about the politics of it all, and hearing stories how some of these things end up with "rogue" nations. 

I know Brexit is still a worry for MBDA, as they do a bit of trade with the European countries (although the bulk is domestic and elsewhere), and their biggest competitor is EU based Thales, who are French. So they still don't know how that will pan out, they lost a few orders towards the backend of 2020, but hopefully now the deal is signed and looks OK, they can start to get some business back

What is eye watering, is the cost of some of these missiles, some of them can easily be £1M per pop

 

I visit them two or three times a year, and handily they're only about 10 miles from my house. I've never really had anything decent, order wise, out of them, but they have a cracking canteen, so always make sure I plan a visit for around 11:30, so I can get some lunch. On the way in, I have to surrender my laptop and mobile phone, and if wearing a smart-watch I have to hand that in as well - they're a bit security conscious

I once went on a visit to the glaxo plant in Cumbria (iirc). They were making antibiotics. 

Will have been late 80s.

Hand to hand in watches and maybe other adornments is we had them.

Not sure why, but didn't ask.

[miamiwhite]

15 hours ago, kent_white said:

I couldn't work for a company like that for all the money in the world.

Be like working for Marlboro.

Stop bleating you lefty puff 😃 

Have those mologic kits arrived at the RBHoCD yet ? 

[miamiwhite]

Not exactly rocket science what the Edinburgh Uni economics professor says

 

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1381084/nicola-sturgeon-news-eu-scotland-independence-referendum-membership-greece-spt/amp?__twitter_impression=true

[jules_darby]

On 31/12/2020 at 13:09, jules_darby said:

You seem to be missing the point; the food bit does very well (at least did last time I checked a while ago)

If they changes to Aldi style food they’d not make more money. And they’d lose more in the other areas.

it’s brand positioning; not everywhere can be, or should want to be, Aldi

the M&S problem is not that you aren’t retained as a food customer, it’s losing folk buying clothing to Next etc