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[royal white]

1 minute ago, London Wanderer said:

So you don’t know then 👍 Just guess work. 
 

Each asylum case is different. For some the barge will be absolutely grand for them, for others a room with 4 or 6 others in a busy setting isn’t right. It all depends on where you’ve come from & what you’ve been through.

Let’s just send the ones there who it’s right for.

Brain dead charity worker buffoons 🤣 👏

 

I never claimed to know. What I do know for a fact is that some Brain dead Buffoons are preventing people from housed in perfectly good accom. 
 

How many 4-6 bedrooms are there on board? 

[royal white]

21 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

This man was in charge of the NHS.

 

He’s on the next series of celebrity SAS. Apparently he’s gets absolutely beasted 

[Mounts Kipper]

2 hours ago, gonzo said:

This is still true today in fact even more so. 

Edited August 8, 2023 by Mounts Kipper

[London Wanderer]

48 minutes ago, royal white said:

What I do know for a fact is that some Brain dead Buffoons are preventing people from housed in perfectly accom

Do you, which brain dead buffoons are these ? Who do they work for and which asylum seekers specifically have they been preventing from moving in who should be on board?

[royal white]

28 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Do you, which brain dead buffoons are these ? Charity workers

Who do they work for care4calais

and which asylum seekers specifically have they been preventing from moving in I don’t know there names

 

Now can you answer my question. 
 

Appears you’re having a cracking holiday 🙄

[tomski]

Reading Lee Anderson’s comments genuinely makes me feel quite sad. He’s not a bloke on the outside. Sooner these dicks are out the better.

Edited August 8, 2023 by tomski

[London Wanderer]

1 hour ago, royal white said:

Now can you answer my question. 
 

Appears you’re having a cracking holiday 🙄

Lovely mate, thanks. 

Can’t remember what your question was

So if you know nothing about these individual asylum seekers and their stories how do you know that these brain dead buffoons aren’t just trying to help them be in facilities that better suit their needs?

 Here’s what the CEO of Care for Calais said:

These 20 range from survivors of torture to people who have been beaten, shot at, some arrested, some traumatised by seeing their friends drown at sea and who therefore have a severe fear of water. There are mental health concerns and a very worried and traumatised community. Details of those individuals have been passed to lawyers who have raised challenges about the suitability screening”.

Sounds like what I was saying as well, that the barge will be grand for some and not for others. So let’s just have a screening process no?

 Here’s what Care for Calais have also said.

Such actions seem increasingly like gimmicks meant to distract us from the obvious solution:

PROCESS THE CLAIMS SO ASYLUM SEEKERS CAN GET ON WITH THEIR LIVES,
GET TO WORK AND CONTRIBUTE TO THE ECONOMY – JUST LIKE THEY LONG TO.

 Their CAPS lock, not mine.

 All seems pretty reasonable to me. Maybe the brain dead buffoons are the Tories after all …

[royal white]

18 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Lovely mate, thanks. 

Can’t remember what your question was

So if you know nothing about these individual asylum seekers and their stories how do you know that these brain dead buffoons aren’t just trying to help them be in facilities that better suit their needs?

 Here’s what the CEO of Care for Calais said:

These 20 range from survivors of torture to people who have been beaten, shot at, some arrested, some traumatised by seeing their friends drown at sea and who therefore have a severe fear of water. There are mental health concerns and a very worried and traumatised community. Details of those individuals have been passed to lawyers who have raised challenges about the suitability screening”.

Sounds like what I was saying as well, that the barge will be grand for some and not for others. So let’s just have a screening process no?

 Here’s what Care for Calais have also said.

Such actions seem increasingly like gimmicks meant to distract us from the obvious solution:

PROCESS THE CLAIMS SO ASYLUM SEEKERS CAN GET ON WITH THEIR LIVES,
GET TO WORK AND CONTRIBUTE TO THE ECONOMY – JUST LIKE THEY LONG TO.

 Their CAPS lock, not mine.

 All seems pretty reasonable to me. Maybe the brain dead buffoons are the Tories after all …

So the hotel the charity turned up at, the 20 people that should have been boarding the barge have all seen friends die at sea. Come on LW you’re not that stupid. I’ll put it down to bring a little naive. 
 

YES PROCESS THEIR CLAIMS, NO ONE IS DENYING THAT BUT THEY NEED SOMEWHERE TO STAY. My caps locks them. 
 

Anyway back to the barge, it’s looking like those who refuse it will be refused future help and be classed as homeless. 

Edited August 8, 2023 by royal white

[London Wanderer]

1 minute ago, royal white said:

So the hotel the charity turned up at, the 20 people that should have been boarding the barge have all seen friends die at sea. Come on LW you’re just that stupid. I’ll put it down to bring a little naive. 
 

YES PROCESS THEIR CLAIMS, NO ONE IS DENYING THAT BUT THEY NEED SOMEWHERE TO STAY. My caps locks them. 
 

Anyway back to the barge, it’s looking like those who refuse it will be refused future help and be classed as homeless. 

I think you’ve missed the other 3 reasons they gave as well mate. Nobody said all 20 of them saw people drown at sea, you’ve just made that up 😂 But some will have.

I think you’ve also missed the bit that it was their lawyers that put the cases forward, so you can add them to your brain dead list as well.

But yes, I’m just naive 😁 along with the brain dead lawyers, firefighters and care for Calais workers👍

I agree though, they shouldn’t be refusing it outright, unless they’ve gone a legal route. As I’ve said, for many it’s fine & for some they will need somewhere a bit quieter to help recovery.

[royal white]

Just now, London Wanderer said:

I think you’ve missed the other 3 reasons they gave as well mate. Nobody said all 20 of them saw people drown at sea, you’ve just made that up 😂 But some will have.

I think you’ve also missed the bit that it was their lawyers that put the cases forward, so you can add them to your brain dead list as well.

But yes, I’m just naive 😁 along with the brain dead lawyers, firefighters and care for Calais workers👍

I agree though, they shouldn’t be refusing it outright, unless they’ve gone a legal route. As I’ve said, for many it’s fine & for some they will need somewhere a bit quieter to help recovery.

Give me one good reason why someone being arrested in let’s say Afghanistan is enough to stop someone living on a barge?
 

Again a good reason why someone being assaulted is a good enough reason not to live on a barge?
 

One good reason why someone being shot at is a reason not to live on a barge?

 

I assumed (wrongly so) that all 20 had used the “seen a friend die at sea” because the other reasons are absolutely ridiculous. 

You’re probably not naive reading this. I can’t think of a word to describe it as it’s way past stupidity 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

35 minutes ago, tomski said:

Reading Lee Anderson’s comments genuinely makes me feel quite sad. He’s not a bloke on the outside. Sooner these dicks are out the better.

Whether you agree with his policies or not, the bloke isn't an outsider.

His views are without doubt representative of the population. 

A coal miner for a decade or so, a volunteer with citizens advice bureau, a councilor, an mp, and a volunteer at a help centre providing meals.

And a former Labour mp too.

He's straight talking, sometimes brutally so, and it's this some folk aren't comfortable with.

[tomski]

6 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Whether you agree with his policies or not, the bloke isn't an outsider.

His views are without doubt representative of the population. 

A coal miner for a decade or so, a volunteer with citizens advice bureau, a councilor, an mp, and a volunteer at a help centre providing meals.

And a former Labour mp too.

He's straight talking, sometimes brutally so, and it's this some folk aren't comfortable with.

Aye hence me saying he’s not an outsider. If he represents the population then it’s far worse.

Sorry mate he’s a living twat. Not arsed if he was a miner or not he is genuinely a horrible man.

Its interesting as i see a lot more on twitter who think he is saying at is?

I wonder what it’s like to be that miserable that his words make people happy. What a sad state of affairs.

[mickbrown]

11 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Whether you agree with his policies or not, the bloke isn't an outsider.

His views are without doubt representative of the population. 

A coal miner for a decade or so, a volunteer with citizens advice bureau, a councilor, an mp, and a volunteer at a help centre providing meals.

And a former Labour mp too.

He's straight talking, sometimes brutally so, and it's this some folk aren't comfortable with.

He was a Labour councillor not an MP, who defected when he was suspended.

He's a chancer who has discovered there's money to be made by being a controversial cunt.

He'll fade back to fuck all after the next election.

 

[tomski]

1 minute ago, mickbrown said:

He was a Labour councillor not an MP, who defected when he was suspended.

He's a chancer who has discovered there's money to be made by being a controversial cunt.

He'll fade back to fuck all after the next election.

 

Exactly. He’s been put out in front by the brains (whoever they are) similarly to who put Liz and Kwasi out to pasture.

[London Wanderer]

22 minutes ago, royal white said:

Give me one good reason why someone being arrested in let’s say Afghanistan is enough to stop someone living on a barge?
 

Again a good reason why someone being assaulted is a good enough reason not to live on a barge?
 

One good reason why someone being shot at is a reason not to live on a barge?

 

I assumed (wrongly so) that all 20 had used the “seen a friend die at sea” because the other reasons are absolutely ridiculous. 

You’re probably not naive reading this. I can’t think of a word to describe it as it’s way past stupidity 

Their lawyers gave good reasons mate.

Trauma recovery is different for everyone. A busy barge isn’t suitable for every asylum seeker, especially if they’re suffering post traumatic stress disorder. Room sharing with 4 to 6 people might not be the best idea if you’re having a nightmares & panic attacks etc. Being shot at, arrested & beaten isn’t the nicest ordeal. Especially where the Taliban or Assad’s regime are involved.

 Hope that answers your question 👍

 Feel free to keep calling everyone you disagree with stupid, naive & brain dead. Doesn’t really do your argument any favours though 😂

 Heres a radical leftist brain dead idea - let’s just send those to the barge who it’s suitable for. 

See ya 

[royal white]

10 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Their lawyers gave good reasons mate.

Trauma recovery is different for everyone. A busy barge isn’t suitable for every asylum seeker, especially if they’re suffering post traumatic stress disorder. Room sharing with 4 to 6 people might not be the best idea if you’re having a nightmares & panic attacks etc. Being shot at, arrested & beaten isn’t the nicest ordeal. Especially where the Taliban or Assad’s regime are involved.

 Hope that answers your question 👍

 Feel free to keep calling everyone you disagree with stupid, naive & brain dead. Doesn’t really do your argument any favours though 😂

 Heres a radical leftist brain dead idea - let’s just send those to the barge who it’s suitable for. 

See ya 

😂😂 unbelievable this!
 

Who told you they were going in 4-6 bedroomed rooms? Yes a busy hotel is fine but a busy barge isn’t, how do Work that out?

Those lawyers know how to make money that’s for sure. Like I said it’s funny how it wasn’t  suitable for those where the charity turned up, it’s like they’re being told what to say. 

 

Go and enjoy your holiday, when I find an abjective for you I’ll let you know 👍
 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

30 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

He was a Labour councillor not an MP, who defected when he was suspended.

He's a chancer who has discovered there's money to be made by being a controversial cunt.

He'll fade back to fuck all after the next election.

 

We will see. Don't know how becoming a tory from Labour in Nottingham is being a "chancer"- one of the more red areas of the country.

Compare that to the Bury lad who went the other way arguably got a far easier gig next time round.

Like I said previously, as the authorities fail to properly address the situation, then the rhetoric will become more brutal. 

Frankly, it doesn't matter if he or any others are upping their vocabulary and what that says about him or his supporters: That's the democracy we live in, and folk can elect who the want 

Perhaps an upshot of dodgy lawyers amongst various factors.

 

The population of Europe at large is gradually moving in a slightly more right wing direction.

[mickbrown]

36 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

We will see. Don't know how becoming a tory from Labour in Nottingham is being a "chancer"- one of the more red areas of the country.

Compare that to the Bury lad who went the other way arguably got a far easier gig next time round.

Like I said previously, as the authorities fail to properly address the situation, then the rhetoric will become more brutal. 

Frankly, it doesn't matter if he or any others are upping their vocabulary and what that says about him or his supporters: That's the democracy we live in, and folk can elect who the want 

Perhaps an upshot of dodgy lawyers amongst various factors.

 

The population of Europe at large is gradually moving in a slightly more right wing direction.

So his rhetoric is getting more brutal because the government of which he is a minister is failing to address the situation. 

Like I said, he's a chancer who got himself a 100k a year gig at GBeebies by acting the cunt.

He'll be out on his arse come the next election. Unless he defects again.

 

 

[Winchester White]

27 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

So his rhetoric is getting more brutal because the government of which he is a minister is failing to address the situation. 

Like I said, he's a chancer who got himself a 100k a year gig at GBeebies by acting the cunt.

He'll be out on his arse come the next election. Unless he defects again.

 

 

He is the complete know-it-all dickhead you find in nearly every local pub in England.

Populist wanker who says one thing and then does the opposite but folk fall for his shite.

30p Lee says no MPs should have a 2nd jobs, then takes a £100k second job doing Partridge impressions on some dodgy talk/news channel.

[London Wanderer]

1 hour ago, royal white said:

😂😂 unbelievable this!
 

Who told you they were going in 4-6 bedroomed rooms? Yes a busy hotel is fine but a busy barge isn’t, how do Work that out?

Those lawyers know how to make money that’s for sure. Like I said it’s funny how it wasn’t  suitable for those where the charity turned up, it’s like they’re being told what to say. 

 

Go and enjoy your holiday, when I find an abjective for you I’ll let you know 👍
 

It’s not unbelievable mate, it’s more that you struggle with the complexity of these things ❤️

These lawyers are on good money, I wonder why that is 😂

Will do, cheers 👍 not sure what an abjective is, but looking forward to your new dictionary discovery. It’s about time you came up with something better than mongo, flatdick & brain dead 😁

[Casino]

3 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

 

Perhaps an upshot of dodgy lawyers amongst various factors.

There you go again, chomping on the bone theyve chucked you

Even the racists admit its a tiny issue, but we will set up a 'task force' anyway

The dodgiest lawyer I know is Braverman

 

Theyre riddled with racists, theyve got non racists who pretend to be racists cos their only chance is to appeal to racists

The country is fucked and its all the fault of small boats

Thats the gamd and its utter, utter bullshit

Tomskis sad, i share his feelings, but my overriding emotion is anger

Theyre wankers

[Traf]

I can't believe anyone would defend Lee Anderson.
He's an absolute cunt.

[Spider]

Robert Jenrick - the Minister of Immigration - has said this morning that processing the asylum seekers quickly is not something the Tories want to do.

Doing so encourages more immigrants to come here.

I think even @royal white agrees that quicker processing is the right policy , and is one that Labour have already said they will pursue.

And given that it’s such a big ticket item in the polling booth, this may well be the Tories simply admitting they don’t want to win. Because if you’ve said you want faster applications, they’re saying “don’t vote for us”.

Lollycopter roflbins

 

[royal white]

8 minutes ago, Spider said:

Robert Jenrick - the Minister of Immigration - has said this morning that processing the asylum seekers quickly is not something the Tories want to do.

Doing so encourages more immigrants to come here.

I think even @royal white agrees that quicker processing is the right policy , and is one that Labour have already said they will pursue.

And given that it’s such a big ticket item in the polling booth, this may well be the Tories simply admitting they don’t want to win. Because if you’ve said you want faster applications, they’re saying “don’t vote for us”.

Lollycopter roflbins

 

That’s debatable

[Spider]

5 minutes ago, royal white said:

That’s debatable

It’s what the man said.

It also means they are deliberately wasting billions of taxpayer pounds to keep them in limbo.

Deliberatley.

Wow.