Politics

[only1swanny]

2 hours ago, jayjayoghani said:

No way she's the leader by the next election. Under even the mildest scrutiny, she can become aggressive, lashes out and starts speaking utter shite. Her comments about autism were shameful. Total liability and another Tufton St shill to boot.

Tories haven't changed a bit. 

Read up,

 

Appears she has zero experience of people HAVING to ask for reasonable adjustments.. spoiler alert, they rarely get them..

I have "reasonable adjustments" in work to help me access the workplace, but it's a cultural thing rather than a written set of things, as workplaces need to be intrinsically inclusive. If you ask for things on paper, it's too easy for large companies to say they are not "reasonable"..

[Not in Crawley]

Good speech by Starmer this morning regarding solutions to immigration issues across Europe.

Sensible and calm. It'll never catch on.

[Spider]

7 hours ago, Not in Crawley said:

Good speech by Starmer this morning regarding solutions to immigration issues across Europe.

Sensible and calm. It'll never catch on.

Boring cunt

He just keeps turning up for work and working.

Cant bear it

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

Let's hope he can get a move on because we currently have more people crossing the channel than ever before

[Cheese]

17 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

Let's hope he can get a move on because we currently have more people crossing the channel than ever before

What would be your preferred instant solution?

[Zico]

On R5 this morning 

Nicky Campbell phone in

Lots of calls coming in regards immigration 

Next topic 

Let's talk about the new Tory leader 

No one called or text in 

They had to make a point, twice, that no one was calling before someone called to talk about it

Seems no one really gave a shit 

[Casino]

34 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

Let's hope he can get a move on because we currently have more people crossing the channel than ever before

October 24 was a high month

But less than October 22

I think October is a biggie cos its getting close to a really really shit option rather than just really shit

[Casino]

17 minutes ago, Cheese said:

What would be your preferred instant solution?

Mine would be safe routes and very quick decisions

No idea how we deal with folk with no ID

[Not in Crawley]

33 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

Let's hope he can get a move on because we currently have more people crossing the channel than ever before

The announcement of an extra 73 million in addition to the 73 million already to help the boarder forces and in cross European partnerships in rooting out this problem is a fair old decent step.

His calling for other countries to do more certainly was also pointed.

But imagine doing all that in a really dull, diplomatic way instead of a bunch of dog whistle nonsense and going out of our way to piss off our closest countries.

As has been mentioned, it'll never catch on this prime ministering

[Not in Crawley]

1 minute ago, Casino said:

October 24 was a high month

But less than October 22

I think October is a biggie cos its getting close to a really really shit option rather than just really shit

Mild as down here on the Kent coast as well.

[Casino]

However, we allowed every Ukrainian who wanted to come to come

Way more than small boat crossings

And theres loads of countries they couldve stopped at first

[Casino]

2 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

The announcement of an extra 73 million in addition to the 73 million already to help the boarder forces and in cross European partnerships in rooting out this problem is a fair old decent step.

His calling for other countries to do more certainly was also pointed.

But imagine doing all that in a really dull, diplomatic way instead of a bunch of dog whistle nonsense and going out of our way to piss off our closest countries.

As has been mentioned, it'll never catch on this prime ministering

Its still not pleasing many lefties though is it

Its still looking at stopping the flow rather than us being a welcoming safe haven where they can have a better life

[royal white]

2 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

The announcement of an extra 73 million in addition to the 73 million already to help the boarder forces and in cross European partnerships in rooting out this problem is a fair old decent step.

His calling for other countries to do more certainly was also pointed.

But imagine doing all that in a really dull, diplomatic way instead of a bunch of dog whistle nonsense and going out of our way to piss off our closest countries.

As has been mentioned, it'll never catch on this prime ministering

So the tories giving 500 million is dog whistling nonsense yet Labour giving 73 million is a fair old decent step? 

[Sweep]

17 minutes ago, Casino said:

However, we allowed every Ukrainian who wanted to come to come

Way more than small boat crossings

And theres loads of countries they couldve stopped at first

They were pretty much all "white" though 

[gonzo]

2 minutes ago, Sweep said:

They were pretty much all "white" though 

I wonder how many Ukrainians took the trip to exploit our benefit and asylum system?

There was piece on the BBC last week about the amount of Vietnamese that are coming over. 

Great at cultivating apparently...

[royal white]

19 minutes ago, Casino said:

However, we allowed every Ukrainian who wanted to come to come

Way more than small boat crossings

And theres loads of countries they couldve stopped at first

Couple of things. Were many of the Vietnamese, Chinese, Albanians, Nigerians, Eritreans, Iranians getting bombed making them want to come here? 
 

We didn’t allow every Ukrainian who wanted to come here in. Many were refused visas.

They applied to come here so they couldn’t have stopped off anywhere first 
 

 

[Not in Crawley]

20 minutes ago, Casino said:

Its still not pleasing many lefties though is it

Its still looking at stopping the flow rather than us being a welcoming safe haven where they can have a better life

It's pleasing a lot of left of centre and centrists- which is where I think you have to govern this issue from to get any sort of handle on it.

You're not looking for majority consensus from those on the more intransigent wings of either party,  but practical solutions to this problem which has become intractable and one of the rocks any government can become stuck on.

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

14 minutes ago, Casino said:

October 24 was a high month

But less than October 22

I think October is a biggie cos its getting close to a really really shit option rather than just really shit

Indeed

But that same month the number of crossings this year surpassed the number of crossings in the whole of 2023 and we have to reverse that trend at some stage

I wish them well as I suspect the Tories' calamitous attempts to deal with the issue concealed just how difficult a task it is

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

29 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

The announcement of an extra 73 million in addition to the 73 million already to help the boarder forces and in cross European partnerships in rooting out this problem is a fair old decent step.

His calling for other countries to do more certainly was also pointed.

But imagine doing all that in a really dull, diplomatic way instead of a bunch of dog whistle nonsense and going out of our way to piss off our closest countries.

As has been mentioned, it'll never catch on this prime ministering

Increased funding is definitely welcome, but how far does that figure stretch in this day and age?

[Not in Crawley]

Just now, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

Increased funding is definitely welcome, but how far does that figure stretch in this day and age?

As you say its about where it's spent but the outline plans look positive - as I say, I believe it's step in the right direction after quite a lot of ill thought out non plans, silly slogans and ultimately targets not met.

[Cheese]

27 minutes ago, royal white said:

So the tories giving 500 million is dog whistling nonsense yet Labour giving 73 million is a fair old decent step? 

The money the Tories "gave" was mostly for the Rwanda Scheme, which was absolute dog whistling nonsense, while they basically put the Home Office on shut down. What would be your preferred instant solution?

[gonzo]

7 minutes ago, royal white said:

Couple of things. Were many of the Vietnamese, Chinese, Albanians, Nigerians, Eritreans, Iranians getting bombed making them want to come here? 
 

We didn’t allow every Ukrainian who wanted to come here in. Many were refused visas.

They applied to come here so they couldn’t have stopped off anywhere first 
 

 

Can never have enough car washers or weed farmers pal.

[royal white]

1 minute ago, Cheese said:

The money the Tories "gave" was mostly for the Rwanda Scheme, which was absolute dog whistling nonsense, while they basically put the Home Office on shut down. What would be your preferred instant solution?

The 500 million I mentioned wasnt. 

[Cheese]

1 minute ago, royal white said:

The 500 million I mentioned wasnt. 

What was it for then?

[SatanGreavsie]

3 minutes ago, Cheese said:

The money the Tories "gave" was mostly for the Rwanda Scheme, which was absolute dog whistling nonsense, while they basically put the Home Office on shut down. What would be your preferred instant solution?

As I've said before, pay the smugglers to be border guards. If they're making as much coin as before, they won't give a toss - and they know all the tricks of the trade. Morally indefensible, but then so is Wales and we put up with them.