Spider Posted January 11, 2025 Posted January 11, 2025 11 hours ago, BobyBrno said: Whatabout, whatabout……… They've gone pal. We have a new useless government to complain about. You never complained about the Tories. Enjoy the sunshine 🌞 Quote
Guest Posted January 11, 2025 Posted January 11, 2025 A reasonable read on what’s happening. https://www.ft.com/content/650cce70-38b0-4ea1-8aee-c527d93acbdb?accessToken=zwAAAZRU2-FKkc9lDM5wOLBOodOK7sUn2TrL2w.MEYCIQCjo-TeYM8WyuwOmPv4dHdZxi3UhEuGHt0pwjVlbKlP1wIhANXQrj_NIuXNukZ7WX2H79SJI_7CZfQEA8mL4WXZm0ng&segmentId=e95a9ae7-622c-6235-5f87-51e412b47e97&shareType=enterprise&shareId=cbe07639-9f4c-4ddc-866d-b30615d6b2fe Quote
Cheese Posted January 11, 2025 Posted January 11, 2025 5 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said: A reasonable read on what’s happening. https://www.ft.com/content/650cce70-38b0-4ea1-8aee-c527d93acbdb?accessToken=zwAAAZRU2-FKkc9lDM5wOLBOodOK7sUn2TrL2w.MEYCIQCjo-TeYM8WyuwOmPv4dHdZxi3UhEuGHt0pwjVlbKlP1wIhANXQrj_NIuXNukZ7WX2H79SJI_7CZfQEA8mL4WXZm0ng&segmentId=e95a9ae7-622c-6235-5f87-51e412b47e97&shareType=enterprise&shareId=cbe07639-9f4c-4ddc-866d-b30615d6b2fe Paywall-free version. https://archive.md/Ot2lj Quote
Guest Posted January 11, 2025 Posted January 11, 2025 11 minutes ago, Cheese said: Paywall-free version. https://archive.md/Ot2lj Cheers. The long and short is that the nonsense commentary that reeves budget has moved gilts is just that. Nonsense. But when in opposition we all knew that unless she got very lucky and borrowing costs reduced or we saw very fast growth that was never likely, she’d have to do one of three things. Raise tax Cut spending Change her fiscal rules. Shes not been lucky and in trying to control debt she’s done more or less what Hunt and the tories did which is likely slow down growth. You can have some sympathy as she probably had very little choice. But she’s a right of centre chancellor. I predict she will cut spending as there is no other way. What that means is either cutting departments who have already been cut to the bone. She can hardly do that given we are talking prisons, schools and councils all things that are falling apart as is. So she will make savage welfare cuts the sort that the Tories had planned and reform are talking about. Starmer and Mcsweeney will let her the Labour MPs will howl and she will go. And they will then try and find a left wing chancellor to quell MPs probably one not on the front bench once the cuts have been made. All a bit depressing but it’s how I see it going. Quote
bolty58 Posted January 11, 2025 Posted January 11, 2025 22 hours ago, Sweep said: I'm sure it is taking its toll, fuck knows why people want these jobs. They pay fuck all in the grand scheme of things, and the stress must be incredible Ego innit. Name down in history. Quote
bolty58 Posted January 11, 2025 Posted January 11, 2025 21 hours ago, Sweep said: We're at the stage where only Nigel can save us Finally the penny drops. Quote
bolty58 Posted January 11, 2025 Posted January 11, 2025 20 hours ago, Sweep said: Is she a sinister slag yet? Yet? Yet!!!??? Qualified years before the GE matey. Quote
bolty58 Posted January 11, 2025 Posted January 11, 2025 19 hours ago, Nowack said: Otherwise known as the Boltying-Cheeseger effect Nowidea. Quote
BobyBrno Posted January 11, 2025 Posted January 11, 2025 3 hours ago, Spider said: You never complained about the Tories. Enjoy the sunshine 🌞 Of course I did. Everyone complains about government. Is this all new to you? Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 11, 2025 Posted January 11, 2025 2 minutes ago, BobyBrno said: Of course I did. Everyone complains about government. Is this all new to you? It most definitely is. Not too long back he made a post about knowing nowt about the subject. Quote
bolty58 Posted January 12, 2025 Posted January 12, 2025 11 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: It most definitely is. Not too long back he made a post about knowing nowt about the subject. He's just not got far enough in. He's still at the cross placement tutorial page. Quote
Spider Posted January 12, 2025 Posted January 12, 2025 19 hours ago, BobyBrno said: Of course I did. Everyone complains about government. Is this all new to you? Would you say you complained about the Tories with the same intensity you do about the Labour government? just for balance, like. Quote
Spider Posted January 12, 2025 Posted January 12, 2025 19 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: It most definitely is. Not too long back he made a post about knowing nowt about the subject. Let’s just give them until the end of their Parliament and see how the land lies then shall we? I know how you prefer to wait for any given topic to be resolved before weighing in with guesswork and conjecture ✈️ ✈️✈️🥰 We can’t all be experts on every single subject discussed on here. Quote
BobyBrno Posted January 12, 2025 Posted January 12, 2025 11 hours ago, Spider said: Would you say you complained about the Tories with the same intensity you do about the Labour government? just for balance, like. No. Now ask the same question to everyone else in the echo chamber re Labour. Ive gone on record saying that this Labour lot are useless. More so than the last useless Tory lot. You and others are more interested in other posters views than the current useless Labour government. Any mention of Labour and it’s the usual diversion back to the Tories or the source or the poster. An example, Siddiq. Will this scandal bring Starmer down? Where’s Nick Brown? Will her first Budget be Rachel’s last? (I may chuck some more in another time) Discuss without mentioning any of the above. Suns out here. Sleep well there. Quote
crawshawbooth Posted January 12, 2025 Posted January 12, 2025 2 minutes ago, BobyBrno said: No. Now ask the same question to everyone else in the echo chamber re Labour. Ive gone on record saying that this Labour lot are useless. More so than the last useless Tory lot. You and others are more interested in other posters views than the current useless Labour government. Any mention of Labour and it’s the usual diversion back to the Tories or the source or the poster. An example, Siddiq. Will this scandal bring Starmer down? Where’s Nick Brown? Will her first Budget be Rachel’s last? (I may chuck some more in another time) Discuss without mentioning any of the above. Suns out here. Sleep well there. seems a bit grumpy for someone in the Sunshine still up to our tits in snow here 🫣 Quote
BobyBrno Posted January 12, 2025 Posted January 12, 2025 1 minute ago, crawshawbooth said: seems a bit grumpy for someone in the Sunshine still up to our tits in snow here 🫣 I’m not a morning person😊 Quote
Winchester White Posted January 12, 2025 Posted January 12, 2025 Personally I don't see that much wrong other than some serious missteps in Comms. £300 winter fuel allowance for everyone was stupid but so was the way it was removed. The budget was heavy on business and I actually think this was a mistake if we are looking for growth. What's are the rest of the useless things they have done in 6 months? Quote
Spider Posted January 13, 2025 Posted January 13, 2025 10 hours ago, BobyBrno said: No. Now ask the same question to everyone else in the echo chamber re Labour. Ive gone on record saying that this Labour lot are useless. More so than the last useless Tory lot. You and others are more interested in other posters views than the current useless Labour government. Any mention of Labour and it’s the usual diversion back to the Tories or the source or the poster. An example, Siddiq. Will this scandal bring Starmer down? Where’s Nick Brown? Will her first Budget be Rachel’s last? (I may chuck some more in another time) Discuss without mentioning any of the above. Suns out here. Sleep well there. You seem a bit rattled. Siddiq needs to be potted, of course she does. And I expect she will be. Starmer isn’t one for knee jerk reactions, he’s a dull, methodical type. And he’s new to the job so will make a few mistakes. Forgivable when your moral compass is straight. The reason I mention Tory misdemeanours is because they did nothing but immerse themselves in them for so long. And yet their fanboys said it was always a storm ina teacup etc… just finding the balance. That’s all 😊 Quote
BobyBrno Posted January 13, 2025 Posted January 13, 2025 8 minutes ago, Spider said: You seem a bit rattled. Siddiq needs to be potted, of course she does. And I expect she will be. Starmer isn’t one for knee jerk reactions, he’s a dull, methodical type. And he’s new to the job so will make a few mistakes. Forgivable when your moral compass is straight. The reason I mention Tory misdemeanours is because they did nothing but immerse themselves in them for so long. And yet their fanboys said it was always a storm ina teacup etc… just finding the balance. That’s all 😊 Rattled😊 Tory misdemeanours 😊 2 out of 3. Well done. Quote
Sweep Posted January 13, 2025 Posted January 13, 2025 (edited) no matter which side you follow/support, the GBP sliding against the USD isn't great news at all....down to $1.21/£1.00 at the minute, which is fucking rubbish. Edited January 13, 2025 by Sweep Quote
Cheese Posted January 13, 2025 Posted January 13, 2025 7 minutes ago, Sweep said: no matter which side you follow/support, the GBP sliding against the USD isn't great news at all....down to $1.21/£1.00 at the minute, which is fucking rubbish. You'll struggle to find a single currency on the planet that isn't sliding against the USD. Quote
Sweep Posted January 13, 2025 Posted January 13, 2025 6 minutes ago, Cheese said: You'll struggle to find a single currency on the planet that isn't sliding against the USD. that's OK then Quote
Guest Posted January 13, 2025 Posted January 13, 2025 1 hour ago, Sweep said: that's OK then It’s not good at all but there is absolutely nothing we can do about it. Reeves left herself little headroom and hoped global markets would go in the right direction. They’ve gone the other way and now she has to make a load of deeply unpopular cuts before no doubt she leaves her post from the political fallout. Quote
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted January 13, 2025 Posted January 13, 2025 I hope for her sake and ours that the reports of her returning from China with just £600M worth of investment is untrue Quote
mickbrown Posted January 13, 2025 Posted January 13, 2025 On 11/01/2025 at 13:23, BobyBrno said: Of course I did. Everyone complains about government. Is this all new to you? You wee fibber you Quote
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