Politics

[Guest]

9 hours ago, BobyBrno said:

This survey by the BCC offers a gloomy outlook. This is the reality of the budget. 
To avoid any doubt and to get it in first, it’s not as bad as the Truss/Krawteng budget👍 

https://www.britishchambers.org.uk/news/2025/01/workforce-growth-struggles-as-budget-costs-loom/

I think and opine frequently that the NI on business was a mistake. I said so at the time. However, I also have to concede I don’t know how I’d have raised the money elsewhere. And the gilt markers last week show why it was necessary to do so. Maybe she could have halved business increase and employee contribution rises? Reversing some of the unfunded Tory tax cuts?

However, she would have been accused there of lowering demand. Consumer confidence is polling high presumably because they didn’t see any immediate tax rises so disposable income was preserved. And inflation is lower than it was.

It’s a tough balancing act. The biggest issue with reeves at the minute is she’s mixing up multiple economic theories. Bit of classical Osborne stuff, Brown and Biden. Not sure that will work. 

Edited January 15, 2025 by bwfcfan5

[Spider]

14 years of complete dogshit and yet Reeves is being hammered for spending a bit of cash on a shovel and some doggy poo bags.

[Farrelli]

31 minutes ago, Spider said:

14 years of complete dogshit and yet Reeves is being hammered for spending a bit of cash on a shovel and some doggy poo bags.

The largest and most vocal political lobby in this country is on the right. Look how quickly the farmers reacted to the change in inheritance tax rules last month and the support they received. It would have nice to see the doctors and nurses get support like that for insulting wage offers and stalling negotiations by the Tories.

[bolty58]

3 hours ago, BobyBrno said:

Good news. GDP figures out later this week. Hopefully more good news. I doubt it. I could set my clock by your replies. Do you even get up? 😊

I suspect that he wears one. A pantomime cow with a red rosette.

[Cheese]

On 14/01/2025 at 07:07, Spider said:

Brexit

 

Oh.

 

[kent_white]

1 hour ago, Cheese said:

Oh.

 

51% of us deserve everything they're getting!

[Casino]

tax raid

hahahahaha

tax raid

sovrintee means its up to them, surely

[Casino]

fresh blow to holidaymakers

surely, should say immigrants

[Spider]

12 minutes ago, Casino said:

fresh blow to holidaymakers

surely, should say immigrants

Ssshhh

theyre white

[Guest]

15 minutes ago, Casino said:

fresh blow to holidaymakers

surely, should say immigrants

It’s only fair that Spain taxes these people highly. After all - they don’t want that backwards culture with its views from the Stone Age invading their territory. 

[mickbrown]

We should do the same with these billionaires in London

[Sweep]

I don't see a problem with it too be honest, we left the club, so they can charge us if they want. We should do the same to them. 

I've heard folk on the radio say that it won't happen because tourism is too important......these are no doubt the same people who said the German car industry would ensure that we got a quick and simple fee trade deal once we left

Edited January 15, 2025 by Sweep

[Sweep]

2 hours ago, mickbrown said:

We should do the same with these billionaires in London

London is (allegedly) the money laundering capital of the world, no way we're going to jeopardise that. We want more Chinese and Russian billionaires, not less

[BobyBrno]

Saw this today. It apparently ‘takes away the bitterness’ 😉

I voted remain.

[bolty58]

5 hours ago, Sweep said:

I don't see a problem with it too be honest, we left the club, so they can charge us if they want. We should do the same to them. 

I've heard folk on the radio say that it won't happen because tourism is too important......these are no doubt the same people who said the German car industry would ensure that we got a quick and simple fee trade deal once we left

No surprise at the likers.

26.5% youth unemployment in Spain overall and higher in the deep South. 

Reducing the Brit effect on the local economy would be exceptionally smart 

[Spider]

9 hours ago, BobyBrno said:

Saw this today. It apparently ‘takes away the bitterness’ 😉

I voted remain.

I like @Not in Crawley but I’m not sure I want to live in the same space as him, even if there’s no rent.

 

[Sweep]

7 hours ago, bolty58 said:

No surprise at the likers.

26.5% youth unemployment in Spain overall and higher in the deep South. 

Reducing the Brit effect on the local economy would be exceptionally smart 

It's still up to them if they want to do it or not,I'm not sure they will, however we have no excuse to be "outraged" by it, which is what I suspect the media are trying to whip up. 

Let them get on with it, if so they choose. Even if they do go ahead, I doubt it'll have little, if any effect on Brits going there

Edited January 16, 2025 by Sweep

[Spider]

6 hours ago, bolty58 said:

No surprise at the likers.

26.5% youth unemployment in Spain overall and higher in the deep South. 

Reducing the Brit effect on the local economy would be exceptionally smart 

Thicker than submarine door

[gonzo]

People keep mentioning this tourist thing and their economies.

The new suggested tax is on home owners isn't it? 

Won't affect tourism a jot. 

[Sweep]

17 minutes ago, gonzo said:

People keep mentioning this tourist thing and their economies.

The new suggested tax is on home owners isn't it? 

Won't affect tourism a jot. 

correct, some people aren't bright enough to separate the two of them

[Guest]

Now that gilts have dropped does that mean the markets now suddenly believe in Reeves’ plan? Or was it never actually anything to do with that? 

[Casino]

2 hours ago, gonzo said:

People keep mentioning this tourist thing and their economies.

The new suggested tax is on home owners isn't it? 

Won't affect tourism a jot. 

indeed

 

not tourists, immigrants

not gonna help brits when it comes to selling either, i'd have thought

 

ooops

[Casino]

the usual suspects would be cheering such a move by uk govt from the rooftops, btw

[little whitt]

2 hours ago, gonzo said:

People keep mentioning this tourist thing and their economies.

The new suggested tax is on home owners isn't it? 

Won't affect tourism a jot. 

when you buy a place in Spain

you pay MAD MAX on top of the sale price 

about 6% and 10% on new builds

so a £300'000  house 

so £18k  on top 

and when you sell  A house in Spain 

you have pay MAD MAX on the sale 

Between 19-24%

 

Edited January 16, 2025 by little whitt

[BobyBrno]

1 hour ago, bwfcfan5 said:

Now that gilts have dropped does that mean the markets now suddenly believe in Reeves’ plan? Or was it never actually anything to do with that? 

😅

Yesterday you said they don’t really matter. It’s one day. Here is the graph since the budget. They could go up tomorrow 🤷‍♂️