Roger_Dubuis Posted August 20, 2019 Posted August 20, 2019 Bury's match at Tranmere suspended, they have until 5pm Friday to satisfy the league or be thrown out Quote
Spider Posted August 20, 2019 Posted August 20, 2019 They’re gone. I don’t like them, but football rivalry is of no relevance in the face of them going pop. The fact the EFL have actually declared their plan tells me this is game over. Quote
embankment Posted August 20, 2019 Posted August 20, 2019 It is so wrong, But someone needs to get their fingers out or BWFC will be next . Quote
birch-chorley Posted August 20, 2019 Posted August 20, 2019 Aye We are two weeks behind, tops Shit or bust Quote
awandering Posted August 20, 2019 Posted August 20, 2019 I think provided we play on Saturday the EFL may wait until after the court case before issuing us the two week notice. If any more games are called off then I think it will be issued immediately. Quote
stevieb Posted August 20, 2019 Posted August 20, 2019 1 hour ago, awandering said: I think provided we play on Saturday the EFL may wait until after the court case before issuing us the two week notice. If any more games are called off then I think it will be issued immediately. And set a precedent that we can pick and choose which games we play? Saturday won't happen. MMW Quote
birch-chorley Posted August 20, 2019 Posted August 20, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, stevieb said: And set a precedent that we can pick and choose which games we play? Saturday won't happen. MMW This If your Ipswich, why would you stand for that? They have had to play 90 minutes tonight, they have a case to be awarded the game rather than be disadvantaged we fucked up not playing the game tonight Edited August 20, 2019 by birch-chorley Quote
Guest Nordkurve Posted August 21, 2019 Posted August 21, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, birch-chorley said: This If your Ipswich, why would you stand for that? They have had to play 90 minutes tonight, they have a case to be awarded the game rather than be disadvantaged we fucked up not playing the game tonight We did fuck up for sure apart from the fact the EFL themselves should have suspended the game if they bothered to follow their own regulations. As for Ipswich, I think their goal difference would improve by playing the game. 3-0 award if it's not played, and play the game and beat us 6-0 or something like that. Edited August 21, 2019 by Nordkurve Quote
birch-chorley Posted August 21, 2019 Posted August 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Nordkurve said: We did fuck up for sure apart from the fact the EFL themselves should have suspended the game if they bothered to follow their own regulations. As for Ipswich, I think their goal difference would improve by playing the game. 3-0 award if it's not played, and play the game and beat us 6-0 or something like that. What regulations? Quote
Duck Egg Posted August 21, 2019 Posted August 21, 2019 8 hours ago, birch-chorley said: This If your Ipswich, why would you stand for that? They have had to play 90 minutes tonight, they have a case to be awarded the game rather than be disadvantaged we fucked up not playing the game tonight The thing is any side in similar circumstances could argue the same. Our postponed game at Southend a few years ago due to the alleged incompetence of their ground staffordable. If Bury make it through this they've had the advantage of not playing in a midweek league cup game, something that contributed to us having a heavier defeat than might have been expected at Tranmere. How we've handled yesterday's postponement was very poor and I'm sure the EFL will punish us heavily but it shouldn't be used as grounds to call Saturdays game off. Quote
snowball Posted August 21, 2019 Posted August 21, 2019 2 hours ago, Nordkurve said: We did fuck up for sure apart from the fact the EFL themselves should have suspended the game if they bothered to follow their own regulations. As for Ipswich, I think their goal difference would improve by playing the game. 3-0 award if it's not played, and play the game and beat us 6-0 or something like that. The admins fucked up by not informing Donny & EFL first. Lack of courtesy and professionalism if nowt else. Easy to say we shoukd have played it but at what point does giving a young lad a chance become exploitation and dangerous? These lot - admin, FV, Anderson ,Barzini all a set of shysters who care nothing for the football side of things and cant keep expecting a team of 18/19 year old kids to keep bailing them out. Look at subs bench for gods sake we will be down to u-16's next. Do we call it a day then?? Quote
Big E Posted August 21, 2019 Posted August 21, 2019 13 hours ago, Spider said: They’re gone. I don’t like them, but football rivalry is of no relevance in the face of them going pop. The fact the EFL have actually declared their plan tells me this is game over. i was all game for giving them shit when it was "you are going bust hahahahaha*" *they wont go bust now they are going to be let down the road i feel a bit sad. this is only the start. i know their fans are bellends but once we have been stripped of everything this time round when we are next in the shit it will be us going under. its a real shame. Quote
bolty58 Posted August 21, 2019 Posted August 21, 2019 33 minutes ago, Big E said: i was all game for giving them shit when it was "you are going bust hahahahaha*" *they wont go bust now they are going to be let down the road i feel a bit sad. this is only the start. i know their fans are bellends but once we have been stripped of everything this time round when we are next in the shit it will be us going under. its a real shame. It's actually beyond that. It's a national disgrace. Bad enough the bucket shakers on the brink but FFS, us? Founder members of the league in our national sport? Doesn't bear thinking about. The entire structure should be shaking its collective head when one weeks wages for an overpaid PL prima donna could be a lifeline for an EFL club like Bury. The worlds gone fucking mad and some fat cats sat at League Headquarters need taking by the throat and shaking until they have an epiphany and start to put things right. I hear the Labour Party often wanking on about 'root and branch' reform. Certainly needed in English football as a whole. There has to be some balance for the collective good - no club should have to fold when the game is awash with money which is not more fairly distributed. Quote
Traf Posted August 21, 2019 Posted August 21, 2019 The EFL wouldn't let our "kids" fulfil the Brentford fixture last season, because they'd played 3 days earlier, citing safeguarding issues. The administrators called the Doncaster game off and when asked by the EFL why they'd done it, they referred them back to their own decision on the Brentford game. Touche. Quote
Guest Nordkurve Posted August 21, 2019 Posted August 21, 2019 2 hours ago, birch-chorley said: What regulations? This from Traf: The EFL wouldn't let our "kids" fulfil the Brentford fixture last season, because they'd played 3 days earlier, citing safeguarding issues. The administrators called the Doncaster game off and when asked by the EFL why they'd done it, they referred them back to their own decision on the Brentford game. Touche. That's why. The EFL set a precedence previously. See also on the EFL regualtions. Note under 18 equals a child in the eyes of the EFL: 61 Youth Development Rules 61.4 League Child Protection policies, practices and procedures, as advised from time to time by The League, will be applied to all aspects of Club activities involving children. Clubs must abide by the Government legislation that applies to children under the age of 18. The League policies and procedures are set out in the Appendix to Youth Development Rules and shall be issued to all Academy Players and their parents/guardians. Quote
DirtySanchez Posted August 21, 2019 Posted August 21, 2019 2 hours ago, Traf said: The EFL wouldn't let our "kids" fulfil the Brentford fixture last season, because they'd played 3 days earlier, citing safeguarding issues. The administrators called the Doncaster game off and when asked by the EFL why they'd done it, they referred them back to their own decision on the Brentford game. Touche. True but we still should have agreed it with them first rather than make the decision ourselves Quote
ROVERS F.C. Posted August 21, 2019 Posted August 21, 2019 5 hours ago, bolty58 said: It's actually beyond that. It's a national disgrace. Bad enough the bucket shakers on the brink but FFS, us? Founder members of the league in our national sport? Doesn't bear thinking about. The entire structure should be shaking its collective head when one weeks wages for an overpaid PL prima donna could be a lifeline for an EFL club like Bury. The worlds gone fucking mad and some fat cats sat at League Headquarters need taking by the throat and shaking until they have an epiphany and start to put things right. I hear the Labour Party often wanking on about 'root and branch' reform. Certainly needed in English football as a whole. There has to be some balance for the collective good - no club should have to fold when the game is awash with money which is not more fairly distributed. Great post..agree completely! Quote
Roger_Dubuis Posted August 21, 2019 Posted August 21, 2019 It's a tough one in our case though even though the sport is awash with money at the top level. According to our administrators the Davies family are wanting £17 million and Ken is wanting £7 million.Can the FA/Premier league really be expected to give us £24 million just to pay off the last two owners then we can start again? Quote
DirtySanchez Posted August 21, 2019 Posted August 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, Roger_Dubuis said: It's a tough one in our case though even though the sport is awash with money at the top level. According to our administrators the Davies family are wanting £17 million and Ken is wanting £7 million.Can the FA/Premier league really be expected to give us £24 million just to pay off the last two owners then we can start again? Has anybody seriously suggested they should? Shouldn't your biggest dilemma be Pogba or Rashford for penalties? Quote
Roger_Dubuis Posted August 21, 2019 Posted August 21, 2019 Just now, DirtySanchez said: Has anybody seriously suggested they should? see Bolty's post - that is the amount of money needed to sort our problem Quote
DirtySanchez Posted August 21, 2019 Posted August 21, 2019 Just now, Roger_Dubuis said: see Bolty's post - that is the amount of money needed to sort our problem I said seriously Quote
DomRepWanderer Posted August 21, 2019 Posted August 21, 2019 (edited) Josh Challies@Challies11 EFL procedure if #BuryFC are expelled on Friday - 3 teams relegated from League One - 4 teams promoted from League Two - Bury can apply for EFL status in League Two next season No word on what happens if they do not reapply.https://www.coventrytelegraph.net/sport/football/football-news/bury-fc-league-one-changes-16787937 … Edited August 21, 2019 by DomRepWanderer Quote
Leyther_Matt Posted August 21, 2019 Posted August 21, 2019 (edited) The "do not reapply" question pretty much answers itself, I'd have thought. The suggestion that they can reapply to League Two is absolute toss though, that simply won't happen. Edit: He's since acknowledged on Twitter that it won't happen. Edited August 21, 2019 by Leyther_Matt Quote
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