Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted October 3, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted October 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Mr Grey said: It sounds to me that everyone who goes for a pint is a cunt, a legal pint! If they are being stupid and being cunts, hopefully they will get a fine and the pub gets closed down. Hopefully yes. Dont think folk are regarded as cunts just for going for a beer. Maybe they are later after several! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevieb Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 This Will Never End Anyone who thinks a vaccine knocked up in 9 months is going to be rolled out to 7bn people and we'll all be cured by spring is tapped. I'm no a covid denier and I'm not an anti vaxxer but we have to learn to live with this for I reckon a few years yet. October 2025 - Bolton v Mars plantation A FC. - postponed due to corona the pools say... Away win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules_darby Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 16 minutes ago, ZicoKelly said: If you posted a pic of a distanced queue where everyone had to wait 10 mins more than normal to buy booze before they go home then there wouldn't be an issue I'd actually be impressed I don't agree with the curfew but that picture doesn't highlight, to me, an issue with the curfew I think it does as the curfew increases the chances of that happening by a fucking lot IMO The curfew is supposed to be making it less likely. Just police places better and leave them open unless they flout it. Easier to police bars and restaurants than flats I’m sure we won’t agree 🤷🏽♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted October 3, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted October 3, 2020 From the pictures, it seems largely younger folk hanging around. Perhaps its a case of the lesser of two evils. Let the olds have a safer, socially distanced drink then off home, and let the ones less likely to be very poorly to spread it to each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 1 hour ago, peelyfeet said: The govmt have seen evidence from other countries that making pubs shut earlier reduces infection spread. I doubt they've seen evidence that if a % of the folk who were in pubs stand outside for a bit it reverses the gains? Where's the photos of all the folk from Altrincham who went home instead of being in the pub or stood outside costcutters for a bit? Id say the impact of the curfew will be minimal and cause more damage than good. It wont stop people getting drunk and mixing. Thats the point. It just makes people more inclined to carry on in an unsafe environment. The pubs are one thing, its hotels and casinos I dont get at all. Its a shambles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted October 3, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted October 3, 2020 I’m up for a planet wide shut down for 3 weeks. Get shut once and for all. The Great Hibernation is upon us. plan it for January. Let us all have Christmas. 3 months to prepare, so no panicking. Plan it. Make it achievable, make it a thing for all humankind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peelyfeet Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 Just now, gonzo said: Id say the impact of the curfew will be minimal and cause more damage than good. It wont stop people getting drunk and mixing. Thats the point. It just makes people more inclined to carry on in an unsafe environment. The pubs are one thing, its hotels and casinos I dont get at all. Its a shambles. If they see that it doesn't work, and by see i don't mean see some photos and videos on social media showing a % of some pub goers stood outside a shop waiting for cans or outside pubs singing Kolo Toure for 20 mins at the weekend, I mean see real evidence that it makes it worse, they will stop it. If they don't, doubt they will. Being outside for 20 mins is better than being inside for a few hours. I bet if you followed up every pub goer in UK over a week, most of them aren't going to queue outside costcutter or standing in concert Square singing, especially in this shite weather. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, peelyfeet said: If they see that it doesn't work, and by see i don't mean see some photos and videos on social media showing a % of some pub goers stood outside a shop waiting for cans or outside pubs singing Kolo Toure for 20 mins at the weekend, I mean see real evidence that it makes it worse, they will stop it. If they don't, doubt they will. Being outside for 20 mins is better than being inside for a few hours. I bet if you followed up every pub goer in UK over a week, most of them aren't going to queue outside costcutter or standing in concert Square singing, especially in this shite weather. I doubt if you followed every pub goer in the uk over a week that theyd be breaking rules in pubs huddled together on dancefloors after 10pm either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peelyfeet Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 (edited) 35 minutes ago, gonzo said: I doubt if you followed every pub goer in the uk over a week that theyd be breaking rules in pubs huddled together on dancefloors after 10pm either. No but some would and now they can't. If they choose to go to a party at someone's house with a load of cans instead, that's up to them. Not everyone will. If I go out tomorrow ill come home when the pub shuts, If it stayed open to 11 30 I'd stay in later, so my risk of infection will be lower because I'll be in the pub for less time. I'll be less pissed, I'm not going to go to a mates house afterwards, and If I go to a shop I'd wear a mask and distance as best I could. I bet there's loads like me, reducing the time indoors with other people, but that's never shown on twitter, there's no photo of Alan watching match of the day at home instead of the boozer, because it's boring. Ask everyone on here, see how many would go home, and how many would stay out. Ask a load of 20yr olds and you'd get a different response. The stuff on twitter is only showing one side of the scenario, it's not showing the folk whove gone home, and its not showing what the folk outside costcutter would have been doing if they were out in pubs and clubs for several hours longer. Edited October 3, 2020 by peelyfeet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazBob Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Mr Grey said: Shock horror! Bolton lads go for a pint and enjoy themselves, it is allowed from tonight. Ffs! Tomorrow afternoon I will be having a few myself. Cheers 🍻 You've clearly not seen what I've seen. I'll also be going for a pint tomorrow and will thoroughly enjoy it. Hope you do too. 🍺 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members burnden Posted October 3, 2020 Members Share Posted October 3, 2020 (edited) Nearly 13k cases today? if that is right it is a massive jump Edited October 3, 2020 by burnden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter desperado Posted October 3, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted October 3, 2020 Lads - Bolton have won today 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leigh white Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 On my son's track and trace app, it went off today saying you have come in contact with someone who has got the Virus, I said how the fuck does that know, we've been in the Manchester museum with his son, got uber taxi up to NQ, eaten in a burger joint and passed loads of people, his explanation was Bluetooth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted October 3, 2020 Moderators Share Posted October 3, 2020 2 hours ago, jules_darby said: I think it does as the curfew increases the chances of that happening by a fucking lot IMO The curfew is supposed to be making it less likely. Just police places better and leave them open unless they flout it. Easier to police bars and restaurants than flats I’m sure we won’t agree 🤷🏽♂️ Probably not This was during lockdown The issue isn't the rules, it's people's ability to follow them If everyone forms a distanced queue outside costcutters there's no issue But they've decided not too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 Look at today’s infections. Lockdown coming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmjhb Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 Some of those reported today were from July and August Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leigh white Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 The orange on his forehead is peeling off, and making a political speech at the same time, you couldn't make it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 32 minutes ago, jmjhb said: Some of those reported today were from July and August Yeah read that. Strangely that is really good news !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules_darby Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 6 hours ago, ZicoKelly said: Probably not This was during lockdown The issue isn't the rules, it's people's ability to follow them If everyone forms a distanced queue outside costcutters there's no issue But they've decided not too I still think you’re missing the point That pic actually enhances mine No point the govt being evangelistic, they need to be realistic understanding how folk will be nobs and gather...and their rules should take into account what people will do. Not just what we want them to do. I’ve said it before; this is about winning not being right. won’t your pic is evidence of that...now that wasn’t every day at the beach come rain or shine but let’s use it as an example - if they only opened the beach and parks and any outdoor space at say 2pm during warm weather that would be more likely to induce crowding before it in the area and also induce more folk piling into each other’s back gardens. So they’re de facto making it worse * restaurants etc are more likely to have a distancing policy enforced than beaches and parks obvs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErnestTurnip Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 This app thing, was in the car with the eldest daughter when hers went off and gave her a warning of potential exposure. That was it, didn't say where, didn't say when, didn't say for how long, didn't say anything else at all and hasn't said anything since. She'd only been at home and with me at work for 2 days and nowhere else at all, there were no pedestrians about so at a stretch it could have been someone in the car in front? What's someone supposed to do with so little info from the app? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 7 hours ago, Ani said: Look at today’s infections. Lockdown coming. The numbers were wrong, it seems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 9 minutes ago, ErnestTurnip said: This app thing, was in the car with the eldest daughter when hers went off and gave her a warning of potential exposure. That was it, didn't say where, didn't say when, didn't say for how long, didn't say anything else at all and hasn't said anything since. She'd only been at home and with me at work for 2 days and nowhere else at all, there were no pedestrians about so at a stretch it could have been someone in the car in front? What's someone supposed to do with so little info from the app? Had a message myself So I’ve been told the system is just looking at potential exposure and that if you need to isolate another message is sent which contains all the info and a countdown clock on your time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErnestTurnip Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 That makes more sense, hers seemed to just go off and say nowt else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted October 4, 2020 Moderators Share Posted October 4, 2020 3 hours ago, jules_darby said: I still think you’re missing the point That pic actually enhances mine No point the govt being evangelistic, they need to be realistic understanding how folk will be nobs and gather...and their rules should take into account what people will do. Not just what we want them to do. I’ve said it before; this is about winning not being right. won’t your pic is evidence of that...now that wasn’t every day at the beach come rain or shine but let’s use it as an example - if they only opened the beach and parks and any outdoor space at say 2pm during warm weather that would be more likely to induce crowding before it in the area and also induce more folk piling into each other’s back gardens. So they’re de facto making it worse * restaurants etc are more likely to have a distancing policy enforced than beaches and parks obvs From the start the government has passed half the responsibility onto the public "We'll let you go to the pub and stuff if you use your common sense, don't let us down" was generally the message If you want to government to take take into account what people will do, and to genuinely "win", as in beat the virus, we're having a far stricter lockdown than the one we had If you didn't like this one, you'd hate what other countries have had to do, the ones with relatively low death tolls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules_darby Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 18 minutes ago, ZicoKelly said: From the start the government has passed half the responsibility onto the public "We'll let you go to the pub and stuff if you use your common sense, don't let us down" was generally the message If you want to government to take take into account what people will do, and to genuinely "win", as in beat the virus, we're having a far stricter lockdown than the one we had If you didn't like this one, you'd hate what other countries have had to do, the ones with relatively low death tolls No, I wouldn’t necessarily I only have an issue with draconian policies if I don’t believe that we benefit from them - I don’t believe the 10pm curfew as it is does that. As TMGJ says; if you’re doing it at least close the offies and take aways too Make it work or don’t bother You believe otherwise, which is fine, but for me this makes v little positive difference & causes unnecessary collateral damage which will have devastating long term effects for those in hospitality. It’s nob all to do with me wanting to be out late as I’m in bed 9:30pm most nights anyway 🤣 The govt is flip flopping and appeasing for me. Shithouses only concerned with populism and protecting a 2nd term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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