Coronavirus

[L/H White]

53 minutes ago, ZicoKelly said:

grass only went down a couple of weeks ago, still bedding in, need some more rain

you need to manually water it or get a sprinker ya lazy fucker x

p.s, great work

Edited May 5, 2020 by L/H White

[Casino]

4 minutes ago, Casino said:

Precious mites seem to be on the news all the time giving reasons not to go back

 

Meant to say, often dropping in references to kids being terrified

Deary me

[only1swanny]

No worries about going back in for me, would make things a lot easier. However I don't fancy bringing a virus home, as if my wife catches it she won't see it through. Every time i go to work it's strip in doorway, and then straight into the bath. 

I simply don't think it's a good idea, and it will trigger a second wave, we were closed before the Government told us to as there were not enough staff to man the school. 

 

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, Casino said:

Meant to say, often dropping in references to kids being terrified

Deary me

Poor

much more difficult to exit this lockdown than go into it.

Becoming more like normal politics; unions v (companies + workers)

No doubt money will help 

[Guest]

Just now, only1swanny said:

No worries about going back in for me, would make things a lot easier. However I don't fancy bringing a virus home, as if my wife catches it she won't see it through. Every time i go to work it's strip in doorway, and then straight into the bath. 

I simply don't think it's a good idea, and it will trigger a second wave, we were closed before the Government told us to as there were not enough staff to man the school. 

 

I don’t get that at all; as long as kids are kept away from older folks, it should be fine.

Or they aren’t going back until we have a cure or a vaccine, in which case we’ll have capitulated to the virus and the rest of the world.

We will then have royally fucked ourselves for a very long time.

Leadership needed, now more than ever.

[only1swanny]

5 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

I don’t get that at all; as long as kids are kept away from older folks, it should be fine.

Or they aren’t going back until we have a cure or a vaccine, in which case we’ll have capitulated to the virus and the rest of the world.

We will then have royally fucked ourselves for a very long time.

Leadership needed, now more than ever.

It's not just older folks that have died though is it?

If you have an underlying health condition, you can't go back in, if you live with someone you have to make that call, (hence the Caravan comment).. 

[ZiggyStardust]

16 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

I don’t get that at all; as long as kids are kept away from older folks, it should be fine.

Or they aren’t going back until we have a cure or a vaccine, in which case we’ll have capitulated to the virus and the rest of the world.

We will then have royally fucked ourselves for a very long time.

Leadership needed, now more than ever.

Just out of curiosity, whats this capitulated to the rest of the world ?

I wasn't aware we was at war with anybody else at the moment (ISIS excepted of course).

 

It really reads like you thinkwe should show this virus a stiff upper lip, that'll teach it to take liberties.

 

 

[peelyfeet]

21 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

I don’t get that at all; as long as kids are kept away from older folks, it should be fine.

Or they aren’t going back until we have a cure or a vaccine, in which case we’ll have capitulated to the virus and the rest of the world.

We will then have royally fucked ourselves for a very long time.

Leadership needed, now more than ever.

The fear is what happens if kids infect parents, or teachers,  who then go on to infect vulnerable people - for example,  there's 1.5 million care workers in the UK, how many of them have got kids? some people are asymptomatic for several days, kids especially.

Need to make sure the vulnerable are protected properly, otherwise deaths will come back in clusters.

 

Edited May 5, 2020 by peelyfeet

[mickbrown]

3 minutes ago, ZiggyStardust said:

Just out of curiosity, whats this capitulated to the rest of the world ?

I wasn't aware we was at war with anybody else at the moment (ISIS excepted of course).

 

It really reads like you thinkwe should show this virus a stiff upper lip, that'll teach it to take liberties.

 

 

If we are at war, it’s 1940 and we’ve had our arses kicked so far. 

[Casino]

2 minutes ago, peelyfeet said:

The fear is what happens if kids infect parents, or teachers,  who then go on to infect vulnerable people - for example,  there's 1.5 million care workers in the UK, how many of them have got kids? some people are asymptomatic for several days, kids especially.

Need to make sure the vulnerable are protected properly, otherwise deaths will come back in clusters.

 

You seem a proper level headed chap

No vaccine for 2 year

No antibody test

What do we do

[Zico]

3 minutes ago, ZiggyStardust said:

Just out of curiosity, whats this capitulated to the rest of the world ?

I wasn't aware we was at war with anybody else at the moment (ISIS excepted of course).

 

It really reads like you thinkwe should show this virus a stiff upper lip, that'll teach it to take liberties.

 

 

all your answers can be found here:

https://conservativewoman.co.uk/

in the last 2 days, we've had the following articles:

• "We can’t hide for ever from this not very deadly virus"
• "We’re all turning into Howard Hughes"
• "The convincing case against lockdowns"
• "Why I loathe the lockdown"
• "It’s time to set ourselves free"

[mickbrown]

Just now, ZicoKelly said:

all your answers can be found here:

https://conservativewoman.co.uk/

in the last 2 days, we've had the following articles:

• "We can’t hide for ever from this not very deadly virus"
• "We’re all turning into Howard Hughes"
• "The convincing case against lockdowns"
• "Why I loathe the lockdown"
• "It’s time to set ourselves free"

BD’s go to for wank fodder. 

[Guest]

1 minute ago, mickbrown said:

BD’s go to for wank fodder. 

Haven’t read anything off there for a while, but, I’ve come off the fence, what would you do if you were in charge?

[only1swanny]

If i remember rightly, it was about 600 new cases each day when the schools were told to close..

Reopening them with 4000 new cases a day doesn't make sense. 

[MancWanderer]

1 hour ago, ZicoKelly said:

the mrs set up this help group on facebook which now has her taking donations of food and clothes and divvying them up for folk who need them

then the guardian got wind of it:

https://www.theguardian.com/in-this-together/2020/may/05/covid-19-lockdown-small-kind-acts-make-a-difference

I even get a mention

also in today's mirror, express and MEN

Superb!!!

[Guest]

7 minutes ago, peelyfeet said:

The fear is what happens if kids infect parents, or teachers,  who then go on to infect vulnerable people - for example,  there's 1.5 million care workers in the UK, how many of them have got kids? some people are asymptomatic for several days, kids especially.

Need to make sure the vulnerable are protected properly, otherwise deaths will come back in clusters.

 

Sure, there will be clusters, and deaths, but they will be nothing compared to the pain of a failed economy and state.

The testing capacity and TTI is about getting at those clusters quickly so the rest of the country can be as normal as possible.

The country seems to be gently getting back to it, my hope is for the Government to crystallise this into a flexible plan. Hancock tried to start remessaging last night.

It might be that the only option, albeit harsh, is to tell the country that after this furlough period, there’s no more money, then people will have to choose; work with some risk and get paid, or stay at home ont dole.

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, only1swanny said:

If i remember rightly, it was about 600 new cases each day when the schools were told to close..

Reopening them with 4000 new cases a day doesn't make sense. 

The background is significantly different now, there is much more understanding of the risks per grouping. Pity we didn’t hold the line at the time.

[Spider]

Fine work Mr & Mrs @ZicoKelly

as for schools going back, I think they’ve got to at least try. Get the nippers in and years 7 & 10 at secondary. Year 11 are leaving now normally in any case, but year 10 are at a critical stage with GCSE’s, so need all the schooling they can get.

5/6/7/8 year olds need a routine and I can tell you from experience that home schooling is nowhere near good enough.

[Zico]

1 minute ago, boltondiver said:

The background is significantly different now, there is much more understanding of the risks per grouping. Pity we didn’t hold the line at the time.

we couldn't though

every day is a school day so to speak and we know more than we did the day previous

we had no choice but to close at the time, or go into lockdown

fortunately, we get to see what happens when other countries lift restrictions and re-open schools first

hopefully we take note this time, there's a reason why we top the death tolls in Europe

[Sweep]

2 hours ago, ZicoKelly said:

the mrs set up this help group on facebook which now has her taking donations of food and clothes and divvying them up for folk who need them

then the guardian got wind of it:

https://www.theguardian.com/in-this-together/2020/may/05/covid-19-lockdown-small-kind-acts-make-a-difference

I even get a mention

also in today's mirror, express and MEN

Not one mention of the good work you're doing on the Battle Nips front

[peelyfeet]

Just now, Casino said:

You seem a proper level headed chap

No vaccine for 2 year

No antibody test

What do we do

Treatment will get better, so % of infected requiring hospital admissions and length of stay should reduce, freeing up beds, and allowing the virus to spread through more without as many deaths. Remdesivir is being trialled now, as is blood plasma from previously infected, containing natural antibodies

I think this would be worst case scenario, the population gradually getting infected, but with better treatments, so less % death overall. 

We'd have to continue with distancing for as long as possible - so no gatherings in enclosed spaces for ages.  

[peelyfeet]

32 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

BD’s go to for wank fodder. 

 

33 minutes ago, ZicoKelly said:

all your answers can be found here:

https://conservativewoman.co.uk/

in the last 2 days, we've had the following articles:

• "We can’t hide for ever from this not very deadly virus"
• "We’re all turning into Howard Hughes"
• "The convincing case against lockdowns"
• "Why I loathe the lockdown"
• "It’s time to set ourselves free"

I've had several hours worth of arguments on there, deleted most of it after a few days, I was getting that much grief.

The commentors are mainly retired, christian, rural living UKIP voters and conspiracy theorists.

Most think this is flu, lockdown is a human rights issue, Conservative govmt are all lefties, labour are communists, youngsters (those under 65) are lazy. Bill Gates has engineered the virus and caused the lockdowns etc, etc.

Basically it's a big load of wank. 

   

Edited May 5, 2020 by peelyfeet

[Sweep]

1 hour ago, only1swanny said:

288 deaths and new cases reducing despite opening tests up to more people..

 

 

436 deaths apparently, not 288

[Tonge moor green jacket]

15 minutes ago, ZicoKelly said:

we couldn't though

every day is a school day so to speak and we know more than we did the day previous

we had no choice but to close at the time, or go into lockdown

fortunately, we get to see what happens when other countries lift restrictions and re-open schools first

hopefully we take note this time, there's a reason why we top the death tolls in Europe

I agree generally, but the last sentence- nah.

Unless we managed to secure a tremendously Draconian lock down earlier, and for a longer period, we were always in danger of a large death toll.

Folk have shown that a more intensive lockdown wouldn't have washed. Look at South Africa for example- banned the sale of alcohol! You'd still be better off and lighter I suppose if we'd done the same...

[Zico]

8 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

I agree generally, but the last sentence- nah.

Unless we managed to secure a tremendously Draconian lock down earlier, and for a longer period, we were always in danger of a large death toll.

Folk have shown that a more intensive lockdown wouldn't have washed. Look at South Africa for example- banned the sale of alcohol! You'd still be better off and lighter I suppose if we'd done the same...

We could've locked down a week earlier and saved more lives

It depends on your outlook

Ireland went down earlier talking about saving lives

We went down later saying expect to lose loved ones

Nowt we can do now, just need to make sure we don't rush to try and get things moving again

Watch and learn basically