Coronavirus

[Traf]

Jnr is in Yr 10 and she's getting increasingly concerned about her GCSEs

[Tonge moor green jacket]

3 minutes ago, ZicoKelly said:

We could've locked down a week earlier and saved more lives

It depends on your outlook

Ireland went down earlier talking about saving lives

We went down later saying expect to lose loved ones

Nowt we can do now, just need to make sure we don't rush to try and get things moving again

Watch and learn basically

Been through all this before. It is not possible to say which scenario is the best.

We would have saved lives initially, however if it was done too early, there's a chance that folk would have rubbished the need for it and the cork is out of the bottle. More deaths at the end as a potential result.

Until it's all over and proper analysis carried out, no one knows.

One thing is for sure, there'd have been meltdown on here with no ale to be had.

[only1swanny]

5 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Been through all this before. It is not possible to say which scenario is the best.

We would have saved lives initially, however if it was done too early, there's a chance that folk would have rubbished the need for it and the cork is out of the bottle. More deaths at the end as a potential result.

Until it's all over and proper analysis carried out, no one knows.

One thing is for sure, there'd have been meltdown on here with no ale to be had.

There was a Muslim lady in Tesco this morning buying 10 crates of beer.. things must have gotten really bad in that house hold!

[radcliffe white]

Sky just reporting that over 18k aviation jobs will be lost through corona 

Virgin Atlantic the latest letting 3k go 

[Spider]

6 minutes ago, Traf said:

Jnr is in Yr 10 and she's getting increasingly concerned about her GCSEs

Teacher mate of mine says Yr 10 are the top priority across the board. They don't have time on their side like other year groups.

Year 7 are next on the list as they need them to bed in properly.

[Guest]

Poor form

 https://amp.lbc.co.uk/news/labour-councillor-formal-warning-foodbank-tories/?__twitter_impression=true

[Zico]

7 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Been through all this before. It is not possible to say which scenario is the best.

We would have saved lives initially, however if it was done too early, there's a chance that folk would have rubbished the need for it and the cork is out of the bottle. More deaths at the end as a potential result.

Until it's all over and proper analysis carried out, no one knows.

One thing is for sure, there'd have been meltdown on here with no ale to be had.

Even at the end, it wouldn't be possible to say there was a chance would've got bored

We haven't got the strictest lockdown

Folk can still generally go about their lives, they just can't go the pub, restaurant, cinema, match etc

If those things remain shut, they still can't go

There's plenty of places doing gatherings like that one in Ireland

I don't think shutting down a week earlier wouldn't mean more people would be out and about and back to normal now, or trying to, but it would've saved more lives, i think

Either way, we had to lock down and we don't have to rush back

[Escobarp]

2 minutes ago, only1swanny said:

There was a Muslim lady in Tesco this morning buying 10 crates of beer.. things must have gotten really bad in that house hold!

Maybe that’s where fanny5 is hiding out? Driven them to drink?

 

or she’s getting Zico’s supplies in for him 

 

either are plausible 

[Casino]

50 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

 

It might be that the only option, albeit harsh, is to tell the country that after this furlough period, there’s no more money, then people will have to choose; work with some risk and get paid, or stay at home ont dole.

I'm furloghed and probably will be til end of May

Who knows beyond that

I'm told nurses can't be furloughed

Is it the same with teachers and if so, why?

There really is nothing to encourage them to go back

Daughter is still doing seven hour days in the desert, albeit from home and at a fee paying school

 

Just to add, this ain't a swanny bash

While he's a little strange, he's always been a worker

[Escobarp]

3 minutes ago, radcliffewhite1 said:

Sky just reporting that over 18k aviation jobs will be lost through corona 

Virgin Atlantic the latest letting 3k go 

Be miles more than 18k mate imo

 

ryanair Sayin 3k 

ba minimum12k so theres your 18k already 

[Tombwfc]

53 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

The background is significantly different now, there is much more understanding of the risks per grouping. Pity we didn’t hold the line at the time.

 

What do we know now that we didn't on the 20th March, which you think would've avoided schools closing?

[mickbrown]

5 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

Poor form

 https://amp.lbc.co.uk/news/labour-councillor-formal-warning-foodbank-tories/?__twitter_impression=true

It’s very poor form.

Almost as bad as the fact that in the 21st century we have food banks at all.  

[radcliffe white]

2 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

Be miles more than 18k mate imo

 

ryanair Sayin 3k 

ba minimum12k so theres your 18k already 

Yes sorry mate meant to say 18k have been lost so far, it’s only going to get higher 

bad times 

[Escobarp]

2 minutes ago, radcliffewhite1 said:

Yes sorry mate meant to say 18k have been lost so far, it’s only going to get higher 

bad times 

Glad my maths were correct 😂😂

yeah it’s grim. Puts a dose of reality into our respective situations when there are folk out of work at a time like this. Must be seriously stressful 

[Tombwfc]

13 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Been through all this before. It is not possible to say which scenario is the best.

We would have saved lives initially, however if it was done too early, there's a chance that folk would have rubbished the need for it and the cork is out of the bottle. More deaths at the end as a potential result.

Until it's all over and proper analysis carried out, no one knows.

One thing is for sure, there'd have been meltdown on here with no ale to be had.

 

Outside of anecdotal evidence, there's very little to suggest people are about to revolt and bin off the lockdown. More people are still off work than actually should be, going to the letter of what the government said out.

And even if it does start to bend around the edges, activity isn't about to jump to the levels of early March and (as Zico pointed out) people still can't go to the cinema, the pub or organise their own Cheltenham Festival.

[Rudy]

[Casino]

16 minutes ago, Tombwfc said:

More people are still off work than actually should be, going to the letter of what the government said out.

 

Aye

We sell to retail and even though a lot of our customers are the big hardware chains, they're not really looking to do anything beyond selling stock

Merchandising and new displays are way down the list

 

[Casino]

47 minutes ago, ZicoKelly said:

We could've locked down a week earlier and saved more lives

It depends on your outlook

Ireland went down earlier talking about saving lives

We went down later saying expect to lose loved ones

Nowt we can do now, just need to make sure we don't rush to try and get things moving again

Watch and learn basically

The longer we stayed open, more people got infected

People need to get infected

We need to go again, soon

Economics has to play a part

[Guest Nordkurve]

32 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

Be miles more than 18k mate imo

 

ryanair Sayin 3k 

ba minimum12k so theres your 18k already 

Did Ryanair say UK based staff ? They are likely to try to get rid of all the staff protected by Employment Law in Countries like Ireland and Germany first.

[peelyfeet]

2 minutes ago, Casino said:

The longer we stayed open, more people got infected

People need to get infected

We need to go again, soon

Economics has to play a part

It's a balance, and a prediction.

If the economy goes down the shitter, it means less money for the NHS in the future too.

Must be an absolute nightmare to be a decision making politician at the moment.

Ultimately whatever happens in the US on the back of this will have the biggest impact. If their economy goes zip, we'll be in the shit regardless of what we do.

[Casino]

Will we fuck

We are free from the shackles of the EU

We are putting the great in great britain

[peelyfeet]

1 minute ago, Casino said:

Will we fuck

We are free from the shackles of the EU

We are putting the great in great britain

haha

Agreed, I bet exports of Lancashire Cheese (crumbly), Yorkshire tea, and Worcester Sauce will go through the roof after this.  

[Zico]

50 minutes ago, Casino said:

The longer we stayed open, more people got infected

People need to get infected

We need to go again, soon

Economics has to play a part

I agree to a degree, but don't forget the government did a massive U turn after the Imperial College report, despite the warnings from other countries as to what was coming

just don't rush it and give people an excuse / opportunity to go steaming in head first

re-opening pubs/bars/restaurants will be great for the economy

less so for the NHS

[Tombwfc]

On the App...

https://www.theregister.co.uk/AMP/2020/05/05/uk_coronavirus_app/?__twitter_impression=true

But there is a problem with the NHS's approach: it probably won't that well work on your phone, and probably won't be terribly accurate at measuring the spread of the virus.

Despite what the NCSC has continued to imply, the app will not, as it stands, work all the time on iOS nor Android since version 8. The operating systems won't allow the tracing application to broadcast its ID via Bluetooth to surrounding devices when it's running in the background and not in active use. Apple's iOS forbids it, and newer Google Android versions limit it to a few minutes after the app falls into the background.

That means that unless people have the NHS app running in the foreground and their phones awake most of the time, the fundamental principle underpinning the entire system – that phones detect each other – won't work.

It will work if people open the app and leave it open and the phone unlocked. But if you close it and forget to reopen it, or the phone falls asleep, the app will not broadcast its ID and no other phones around you will register that you've been close by. There is even a handy video of someone in Australia showing this (Australia has gone for a similar system with its COVIDSafe app.)

[Traf]

25 minutes ago, peelyfeet said:

haha

Agreed, I bet exports of Lancashire Cheese (crumbly), Yorkshire tea, and Worcester Sauce will go through the roof after this.  

and Cornish Pasties.