Coronavirus

[Zico]

26 minutes ago, radcliffewhite1 said:

grim up north 

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/coronavirus-r-number-north-west-18370083

so is this the second wave, or are we still on the first??

[e2e4]

23 hours ago, gonzo said:

There won’t be a second spike. 

Well not one big enough to cause another meltdown anyway. 

Folk have been pissing about on beaches for two weeks and fuck all has happened.

Its over. Time to get a grip and stop being massive nonces. 

while all this were going on , i wonder what the MERS and SARS1 deaths were. ?

[looks on altavista]

the mers deaths in 2019 were 220 or so. 

the OG sars didnt infect anyone after about 2003

"when china sends us its bioengineered viruses , they're not sending us their best "

Edited June 5, 2020 by e2e4
typo

[radcliffe white]

Just now, ZicoKelly said:

so is this the second wave, or are we still on the first??

Not sure 

is it the first and the north west are so careless?

burnham reckons it could be higher 

[Not in Crawley]

If I lived in the North West, I'd be behaving as we did in the first part of the lockdown. Look at the local numbers, our borough from being near the top for the first six weeks has hugely dropped.

[radcliffe white]

Lockdown finished in the north west weeks ago 

weather hasn’t helped but same for other regions 

[peelyfeet]

36 minutes ago, ZicoKelly said:

so is this the second wave, or are we still on the first??

First, just a potential extension of it.

This info is 2 weeks old by the way, so the impact of the bank holiday hasn't been measured yet.

There's been proof of this for 2 weeks. We're just too fucking slow. They'll do fuck all until they see consistent rise in hospital admissions and deaths I think. I'm convinced we wouldn't be lifting restrictions if this was happening in London. All they had to do was wait another 2 weeks. Wigan council have extended school openings by another week, to 15th, lancs saying maybe 15th, liverpool still no date.

Edited June 5, 2020 by peelyfeet

[Casino]

9 minutes ago, peelyfeet said:

First, just a potential extension of it.

This info is 2 weeks old by the way, so the impact of the bank holiday hasn't been measured yet.

There's been proof of this for 2 weeks. We're just too fucking slow. They'll do fuck all until they see consistent rise in hospital admissions and deaths I think. I'm convinced we wouldn't be lifting restrictions if this was happening in London. All they had to do was wait another 2 weeks. Wigan council have extended school openings by another week, to 15th, lancs saying maybe 15th, liverpool still no date.

So what were the numbers Burnham had yesterday?

[Roger_Dubuis]

13 minutes ago, peelyfeet said:

 

There's been proof of this for 2 weeks. We're just too fucking slow. They'll do fuck all until they see consistent rise in hospital admissions and deaths I think. I'm convinced we wouldn't be lifting restrictions if this was happening in London. All they had to do was wait another 2 weeks. Wigan council have extended school openings by another week, to 15th, lancs saying maybe 15th, liverpool still no date.

I don't know about many primary schools in Bolton but the one near me had a meeting on Monday and decided not to open till June 15 at the earliest.It's stayed open all the time for essential workers children. Kids in the 4th form at Canon Slade are getting 2 hours a week for the rest of the term.

[radcliffe white]

Hancock reckons plans in place for regional lockdowns if needed 

[Spider]

357 today

Stubbornly refusing to fall.

[peelyfeet]

3 minutes ago, Casino said:

So what were the numbers Burnham had yesterday?

Burnham's numbers yesterday was from stats published by liverpool school of tropical medicine modelling for 24th May. Today's numbers have come from PHE and Cambridge uni study. They're all saying NW is slightly over or under 1. The deaths  in NW hospitals for almost 3 weeks has also shown the same pattern. Care homes around here have dropped a lot, which has reduced the deaths, R number and hospital admissions.

The info I've been reading suggests deaths in the community, with transmissions outside of care homes has been flat for 3 weeks.

Hancock is saying we need to work out where the infections are happening and deal with the outbreaks accordingly 

[Spider]

11 weeks and one hour since I last had a pint in a pub.

[jeep]

2 minutes ago, Spider said:

11 weeks and one hour since I last had a pint in a pub.

Calm down Sinead.....

[Guest]

5 minutes ago, Spider said:

11 weeks and one hour since I last had a pint in a pub.

Then just under 11 weeks for me

[peelyfeet]

We should be testing people without symptoms in NW  NHS trust areas with the highest recent hospital admissions. If there's spare testing capacity we could be catching asymptomatic people.

[green genie]

1 hour ago, radcliffewhite1 said:

grim up north 

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/coronavirus-r-number-north-west-18370083

We'll pass you next month thanks to the grockles hitting the beaches in herds.

[Casino]

14 minutes ago, peelyfeet said:

Burnham's numbers yesterday was from stats published by liverpool school of tropical medicine modelling for 24th May. Today's numbers have come from PHE and Cambridge uni study. They're all saying NW is slightly over or under 1. The deaths  in NW hospitals for almost 3 weeks has also shown the same pattern. Care homes around here have dropped a lot, which has reduced the deaths, R number and hospital admissions.

The info I've been reading suggests deaths in the community, with transmissions outside of care homes has been flat for 3 weeks.

Hancock is saying we need to work out where the infections are happening and deal with the outbreaks accordingly 

Comment worthy that Hancock was on his own?

I think so

[Tonge moor green jacket]

1 hour ago, Casino said:

7/10???

What does 2 or 3 look like 

Utter shitshow...neither in nor out from the beginning

Lockdown harder; that would have gone down well.

A quick drive down New Lane tells everything you need to know.

And it's similar to that all over.

 

[Spider]

4 minutes ago, Casino said:

Comment worthy that Hancock was on his own?

I think so

That screams to me “the scientists have told me they can’t keep lying to everyone”

[Casino]

And when asked whether the delay in specifying the use of ppe in hospitals was due to a shortage he said not

I'm calling bullshit

There's still not enough for your local GP surgeries

 

And you must isolate if your colleagues have it...unless you're a cabinet minister?

And he will shut down plenty GPs if/when our world leading track n trace kicks in

[Casino]

5 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Lockdown harder; that would have gone down well.

A quick drive down New Lane tells everything you need to know.

And it's similar to that all over.

 

While there's lawless, ignorant penguins on that road, it's still a cop out, imo

[Marc505]

20 minutes ago, Spider said:

11 weeks and one hour since I last had a pint in a pub.

Last time I had a pint in a pub was with Sober Dan in Burton

[Marc505]

12 minutes ago, Casino said:

Comment worthy that Hancock was on his own?

I think so

Strange that. Might be looking towards changing how the briefings are done, I know theyve scrapped weekend ones due to low ratings 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

3 minutes ago, Casino said:

While there's lawless, ignorant penguins on that road, it's still a cop out, imo

How else is it spreading?

Peely has explained care home r value drop, so can only be in the community.

I've had kids camping out/ building fires in the woods behind us. Feral twats walking round with cans of ale like they're invincible- a badge of honour that they're not following guidance.

Dopy cunts going on marches now with no distancing.

Irrespective of whether you think the government could have done better, the infection rate came right down initially, and then gradually people started fucking it off and now the rate is creeping up again.

Also suggested some that folk aren't asking for tests if they have symptoms, as they don't want to isolate. Not sure if true, but can't say I'd be surprised.

10 days or so until lad is supposed to be back in school. I shall be watching the figures closely now this has happened- if it continues its trend he won't be back.

I've managed well and been busy so far, but if children of the corn full of infection return in his cohort, I won't be risking him coming come with a dose and me potentially losing the rest of the season.

Fuck that.

[Spider]

Herd immunity innit.

Hospitals can cope with these little rises in the infection rate.

Thats the gamble folks.