Meanwhile in Israel

[Sweep]

3 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

I doubt Iran will be sending many more Shahed Drones to Russia. They’ve sent thousands to Russia and they have then sent them to destroy civilians in Ukraine. Only North Korea and China to rely on now. I suspect China will see sense and back away quite soon. 

I agree.....or they might hope the US gets sufficiently tied up with Ukraine, Gaza and Iran.....thus meaning they can't also fully commit to protecting Taiwan 🙂

[BobyBrno]

2 minutes ago, Sweep said:

I agree.....or they might hope the US gets sufficiently tied up with Ukraine, Gaza and Iran.....thus meaning they can't also fully commit to protecting Taiwan 🙂

I doubt Trump wants to get tied up in anything. He sent the bombers in to do what no other country could do. Ukraines problem is for Europe to sort out. I believe we (Europe) are more than capable. If not, they will intervene. Whatever people think of Trump, he should never be underestimated. 

[Winchester White]

40 minutes ago, royal white said:

They will be putting their hands together and using all their fingers to count what decent weaponary they have left. 

 

35 minutes ago, Blondi said:

The last thing Putin needs is another war, he's already fucked up in the war with Ukraine. I wouldn't be surprised if Putin fucks Iran off now.

 

11 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

I doubt Iran will be sending many more Shahed Drones to Russia. They’ve sent thousands to Russia and they have then sent them to destroy civilians in Ukraine. Only North Korea and China to rely on now. I suspect China will see sense and back away quite soon. 

I agree with all of you to a point. I think Russia has massively weakened itself with it's stupid war against Ukraine.

China won't back down on Taiwan though I fear, but I hope you are right.

[bolty58]

15 hours ago, wanderer1984 said:

Snide comment as always ... You really hate me don't you 🤣

You aren't Jewish are you?

Take no notice.

[bolty58]

13 hours ago, gonzo said:

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/protesters-block-pride-parade-through-31905453

 

Not sure Queers for Palestine have thought this through.

 If ever proof were need that the world has actually gone mad.

Maybe they like the prospect of being thrown off high buildings? Possibly after waving at the spaceship?

[Tonge moor green jacket]

11 hours ago, Sweep said:

I said this the other day, as soon s the SoH is compromised, the price is oil will start to escalate, which will affect us all. 

It'll also give a decent economic boost to Russia, sadly. 

Iranian terrorist activities have already affected us all.

Many nations have military assets in the region to protect shipping from Houthi (Iranian) attacks.

Including seizure of a tanker. 

Pound signs aren't readily available over the costs of all this, but it doesn't mean they're not there.

Indeed shippers were loathe to use the route because of their increased costs.

Thus product prices will already be affected.

Russia's black fleet is already operating and carrying oil/fuels, and there are efforts to reduce this.

A balance has to be struck of course, but a brief period of oil price increase is far easier to swallow that the bastards achieving their uranium enrichment to the desired level.

 

[kent_white]

I wouldn't mind having a look at what evidence the US and Israel had that told them Iran was a couple of weeks away from building a bomb. I don't think we've seen any yet have we? 

[Sweep]

14 minutes ago, kent_white said:

I wouldn't mind having a look at what evidence the US and Israel had that told them Iran was a couple of weeks away from building a bomb. I don't think we've seen any yet have we? 

hopefully it's a bit more robust than the evidence shown for the WMD in Iraq....

[Bertie]

Must have been fairly recent evidence as a few months ago Trumpys own Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard testified to Congress that Iran was not building them (nuclear weapons). Only last Friday did she then do a complete u-turn and blamed the dishonest media for misreporting🙄🤔. Timing eh? Oddly enough she wasn’t invited to the “situation room” then to watch the strikes. What’s the betting she’s moved out soon.

Im not saying the weapons don’t exist, or that the US strikes are necessarily a bad thing, but again shows the sycophantic cultish nature surrounding the orange demagogue.

Edited June 23, 2025 by Bertie

[boltonboris]

Oman is going to have a huge part to play in all of this when it comes to Global trade now. Salalah Port is probably now the only port in the region able to handle A class vessels.

Jeddah is closed off if the Houthi's continue to wreak havoc in the Red Sea, Jebel Ali, Dubai along with Doha, Abu Dhabi, Oman, Dammam and Kuwait are closed off on the Strait of Hormuz..

Crikey. It's going to cause real issues in the area.  I'm sure the Saudi's are going to have an interest in this and will probably be the ones leading the way in trying to bring peace talks to the table

[Cheese]

1 hour ago, kent_white said:

I wouldn't mind having a look at what evidence the US and Israel had that told them Iran was a couple of weeks away from building a bomb. I don't think we've seen any yet have we? 

Not saying they were a couple of weeks away, but why else would they be enriching Uranium to 60% if not to build a nuclear weapon?

[bolty58]

59 minutes ago, Sweep said:

hopefully it's a bit more robust than the evidence shown for the WMD in Iraq....

Considering how many times they have been assessed by the IAEA I am sure you can take this as a given.

[L/H White]

 

[bolty58]

35 minutes ago, boltonboris said:

Oman is going to have a huge part to play in all of this when it comes to Global trade now. Salalah Port is probably now the only port in the region able to handle A class vessels.

Jeddah is closed off if the Houthi's continue to wreak havoc in the Red Sea, Jebel Ali, Dubai along with Doha, Abu Dhabi, Oman, Dammam and Kuwait are closed off on the Strait of Hormuz..

Crikey. It's going to cause real issues in the area.  I'm sure the Saudi's are going to have an interest in this and will probably be the ones leading the way in trying to bring peace talks to the table

I think there's a fair chance that Saudi Arabia would like to see Iran brought to its knees before any peace talks begin in earnest.

[kent_white]

13 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Not saying they were a couple of weeks away, but why else would they be enriching Uranium to 60% if not to build a nuclear weapon?

Leverage I suppose. And deterrence without weapons. 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

11 minutes ago, kent_white said:

Leverage I suppose. And deterrence without weapons. 

Wishful thinking in the extreme there.

They only need 30 odd percent for energy purposes apparently.

Going further has had the opposite effect of deterrence.

If they had got the bomb, then maybe they would have had some leverage- why it was important to stop them.

Taking out their air defence systems and ballistic missile launchers has degraded the IRGC's capabilities to conduct aggressive, non-nuclear action too.

Some of the top brass there; both military, ministerial, and even scientific, will now be having second thoughts about pursuing the current objectives. 

[Cheese]

16 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Wishful thinking in the extreme there.

They only need 30 odd percent for energy purposes apparently.

Going further has had the opposite effect of deterrence.

If they had got the bomb, then maybe they would have had some leverage- why it was important to stop them.

Taking out their air defence systems and ballistic missile launchers has degraded the IRGC's capabilities to conduct aggressive, non-nuclear action too.

Some of the top brass there; both military, ministerial, and even scientific, will now be having second thoughts about pursuing the current objectives. 

Only 3.7% enrichment required for civilian Nuclear Power stations.

Edited June 23, 2025 by Cheese

[kent_white]

51 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Wishful thinking in the extreme there.

They only need 30 odd percent for energy purposes apparently.

Going further has had the opposite effect of deterrence.

If they had got the bomb, then maybe they would have had some leverage- why it was important to stop them.

Taking out their air defence systems and ballistic missile launchers has degraded the IRGC's capabilities to conduct aggressive, non-nuclear action too.

Some of the top brass there; both military, ministerial, and even scientific, will now be having second thoughts about pursuing the current objectives. 

I'm not wishing for anything to be honest. Just trying to answer Cheese's question. 

I don't think there is a legitimate civilian use for it. But the Iranians might have thought that the element of doubt was useful to them strategically. 

[London Wanderer]

Credit where it’s due

But if operations continue it’s going to get risky. Could go either way this.

[Greg_BWFC]

3 hours ago, Cheese said:

Only 3.7% enrichment required for civilian Nuclear Power stations.

3.2% will work too in our older ones but I completely get the point you're making 👍

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Good info.

Shows the media doesn't always get things right- even if it just a decimal point in the wrong place 😀 

Anyway, just reinforces the reason for twatting the production facilities. 

 

[Zico]

Palestine Action now a terrorist group which looks fair enough

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4g83l33wdeo

Activists from the group broke into RAF Brize Norton in Oxfordshire last week and spray-painted military planes red.

 

Following the attack on the base last week, Palestine Action said: "Despite publicly condemning the Israeli government, Britain continues to send military cargo, fly spy planes over Gaza and refuel US and Israeli fighter jets."

Reacting to news that the government would move to ban it on Friday, it added: "When our government fails to uphold their moral and legal obligations, it is the responsibility of ordinary citizens to take direct action."

[Sweep]

18 minutes ago, Zico said:

 

Activists from the group broke into RAF Brize Norton in Oxfordshire last week and spray-painted military planes red.

 

 

Should have been machine gunned down - if you break into a military base, then you deserve to be killed. Fucking idiots

[Winchester White]

22 minutes ago, Sweep said:

Should have been machine gunned down - if you break into a military base, then you deserve to be killed. Fucking idiots

They didn't just spray paint a plane either, they sprayed it inside the engines meaning they are completely out of action.

Fuck knows how shite security must have been but you can guarantee it's a whole lot tighter now. It should never have been possible for this to happen but in doing so the daft cunts have got themselves in a terror group. Zero sympathy.

[kent_white]

4 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

They didn't just spray paint a plane either, they sprayed it inside the engines meaning they are completely out of action.

Fuck knows how shite security must have been but you can guarantee it's a whole lot tighter now. It should never have been possible for this to happen but in doing so the daft cunts have got themselves in a terror group. Zero sympathy.

My friend on Facebook assures me that the security breach is Keir Starmer's fault! 😁