radcliffe white Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 4 minutes ago, Casino said: don't forget, there were evatt outers even before port vale in div 4 they can't change their mind so won't be happy til hes gone Or maybe you take the blinkers off and stop backing him to the hilt be more open minded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Horwich Posted April 19 Moderators Share Posted April 19 How long did it take Sunderland to get out of league 1? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 I'm certainly not in the panic camp like what seems like 90% of our fanbase. Is what it is. If we aren't ready we aren't ready. It's big fuck off hysterical hound out and everything going sour I can't be arsed with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stig Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 46 minutes ago, MickyD said: Poor choice of words, @Stig. Replace ‘was’ with ‘should’ve been’ and it’s back to being correct. Correct yes, that's what I meant. We were definitely poor on the night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nantwichwhite Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 All these critics and tacticians wouldn't it be piss funny if we actually went up!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deeane Koontz Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 2 minutes ago, gonzo said: I'm certainly not in the panic camp like what seems like 90% of our fanbase. Is what it is. If we aren't ready we aren't ready. It's big fuck off hysterical hound out and everything going sour I can't be arsed with. Lose to Blackpool in the playoffs and you'll be leading the bloody hound out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattbwfc19 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 10 minutes ago, Horwich said: How long did it take Sunderland to get out of league 1? 6 years i think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 2 minutes ago, deeane Koontz said: Lose to Blackpool in the playoffs and you'll be leading the bloody hound out Bed sheets, tennis balls and Pyro loaded up and on my way to Chesterfield with Amy tied up in the boot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stig Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 32 minutes ago, Casino said: i think thats a fair point too im not naive enough to think players are always 100% but its been game after game after game and some are without doubt playing with issues then saturday was such an effort wasnt it barnsley who totally collapsed after we came back against them? I'm not saying these things aren't factors, but it's too easy to bemoan these things: bad luck, bad referee, too many injuries, tired after a big game, timewasting etc. Instead we should be looking at ourselves and things we should be correcting if we want to get promoted, and stop being so soft about external factors. Get the mentality of our team right so we aren't so erratic and inconsistent and those other factors don't matter. It's just easy to blame everything else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesince63 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 Ok it’s going to be a tough ask but there’s every chance that Derby can slip up at Cambridge just as we did against Salop on Tuesday, they will still be under pressure because they need to win to keep that gap between us, so we have to keep believing and do what we failed to do on Tuesday plus with a few goals. The Vale fans are expecting to get mullered so let’s not disappoint them. A good win for us and a Derby loss still leaves us with a real good chance of avoiding the play offs so let’s all get behind the boys until our chances of automatic are nil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Horwich Posted April 19 Moderators Share Posted April 19 19 minutes ago, Whitesince63 said: Ok it’s going to be a tough ask but there’s every chance that Derby can slip up at Cambridge just as we did against Salop on Tuesday, they will still be under pressure because they need to win to keep that gap between us, so we have to keep believing and do what we failed to do on Tuesday plus with a few goals. The Vale fans are expecting to get mullered so let’s not disappoint them. A good win for us and a Derby loss still leaves us with a real good chance of avoiding the play offs so let’s all get behind the boys until our chances of automatic are nil. We aren’t going up automatically 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyRiddle Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 26 minutes ago, Stig said: I'm not saying these things aren't factors, but it's too easy to bemoan these things: bad luck, bad referee, too many injuries, tired after a big game, timewasting etc. Instead we should be looking at ourselves and things we should be correcting if we want to get promoted, and stop being so soft about external factors. Get the mentality of our team right so we aren't so erratic and inconsistent and those other factors don't matter. It's just easy to blame everything else Spot on. There are things we can control and don't seem to. Such as free kicks and corners, Derby are pretty much going to go up on their ability to score from set pieces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 It all started to go sour after a DNA test... 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolli Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 1 hour ago, mattbwfc19 said: 6 years i think 4 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianofcleveleys Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 1 hour ago, gonzo said: I'm certainly not in the panic camp like what seems like 90% of our fanbase. Is what it is. If we aren't ready we aren't ready. It's big fuck off hysterical hound out and everything going sour I can't be arsed with. No doubt a big mental and physical effort put into last Sat, for it not to end with the outcome that would have encouraged tired legs and minds to go again. On Tues, maybe a bit of that Sunday after a Thursday Europa League game sort of flatness the PL clubs experience often enough. It's generated some debate to keep us occupied for a few days but which might be rendered irrelevant if we dust ourselves down and go up through play offs. It's being kicked around (and I've joined in as much as anyone) like we're having the inquest before we've really failed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted April 19 Moderators Share Posted April 19 1 hour ago, JimmyRiddle said: Spot on. There are things we can control and don't seem to. Such as free kicks and corners, Derby are pretty much going to go up on their ability to score from set pieces. we are 3rd in the set piece goals scored behind derby and stevengage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUREADY2ROLL Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 1 hour ago, Horwich said: We aren’t going up automatically 🙄 Exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUREADY2ROLL Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 2 minutes ago, Casino said: we are 3rd in the set piece goals scored behind derby and stevengage Who is Steven Gage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattbwfc19 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 22 minutes ago, woolli said: 4 years ah yea, was thinking of sheffield Utd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderlust Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 2 hours ago, gonzo said: I'm certainly not in the panic camp like what seems like 90% of our fanbase. Is what it is. If we aren't ready we aren't ready. A bit of common sense there. If folk are looking for reasons why we haven't walked the league, everything mentioned leads back to the same thing - we aren't ready. And I include the inability to overcome injuries, bad luck, attitude, tactics, players, fixture congestion, poor refs etc etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted April 19 Moderators Share Posted April 19 7 minutes ago, Casino said: we are 3rd in the set piece goals scored behind derby and stevengage https://theanalyst.com/eu/2023/08/league-one-stats-2023-24-opta/ and middling on conceded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter desperado Posted April 19 Author Site Supporter Share Posted April 19 2 hours ago, radcliffe white said: 2 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: It’s worrying but people just go for the injury excuse Harsh that. We aren’t on Twitter here. Injuries only ever been mentioned as part of a bigger picture while acknowledging other deficiencies and areas for improvement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burndens Bogs Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 (edited) 2 hours ago, Stig said: Get the mentality of our team right so we aren't so erratic and inconsistent and those other factors don't matter. It's just easy to blame everything else I’m not sure IE gets along with strong characters - hence the reason we’re bereft of hardmen & mentally strong players. Edited April 19 by Burndens Bogs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfc2003 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 2 hours ago, Whitesince63 said: Ok it’s going to be a tough ask but there’s every chance that Derby can slip up at Cambridge just as we did against Salop on Tuesday, they will still be under pressure because they need to win to keep that gap between us, so we have to keep believing and do what we failed to do on Tuesday plus with a few goals. The Vale fans are expecting to get mullered so let’s not disappoint them. A good win for us and a Derby loss still leaves us with a real good chance of avoiding the play offs so let’s all get behind the boys until our chances of automatic are nil. Exactly - remember in the Ian Greaves era - Bristol Rovers away last game (in fact after regular season had ended - a 12? goal win took us up on goal difference - couldnt believe the players didnt go all out for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted April 19 Site Supporter Share Posted April 19 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Burndens Bogs said: I’m not sure IE gets along with strong characters - hence the reason we’re bereft of hardmen & mentally strong players. Whilst we don't know what goes on amongst the group, it would perhaps be a bit naive to think everything is rosy all of the time. Just like in any workplace; people don't always get on with each other. Whether it's at such a level for the manager to behave in such a way, I'd have my doubts. Clearly he has favourites, as he has preferred methods, but that would be the case with most managers. Edited April 19 by Tonge moor green jacket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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