Johnnyrotten Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 4 hours ago, L/H White said: We need Motley & Dempsey back in the middle for a start, fuck knows what they did wrong I like both players but that sounds like they've only performed in one game together. They both started against Sheff Wed, Plymouth, Port Vale and Morecambe and we looked toothless, scoring 1 goal in 4 games. They were dropped v Charlton and we looked really good, same at MK Dons. For all Dempsey's qualities, he's similar to Bradley in a lack of quality with the final ball, crossing and shooting below average. At the end of the day we need people that can score because most other things are in place, we just lack that cutting edge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 4 minutes ago, marple whites said: Oh yes and why are our corners and free kicks just so shite ? Just another area of no improvement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Biggish Dave Posted October 8, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted October 8, 2022 Days gone by, we got corners - COME ON YOU WHITES. Now, fuckin hell, here we go again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc505 Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 Still can't understand how Santos has gone all this time without a goal. Attack a corner ffs instead of hanging about around the keeper. Teams should be fearing defending against him at set pieces but they could just as easily not even put a man on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyrotten Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 3 hours ago, DaveTheRave said: Poor performance but we did more than enough to get something out of the game imo. Same as those 1-0 away defeats at Cambridge, Sunderland, Sheff Wed, Pompey, Wycombe, Accrington last season and Plymouth this season. Its not really a consolation if it doesn't improve. Its a struggle to recall a narrow victory at home when we were a bit lucky. Nearly every time we win at home we have to be the better team and if we aren't, we lose or draw. When we go away, teams that are inferior on the day still have a great chance of winning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyrotten Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, Spider said: 10/12 points from the next 4 games and the this will be but a grubby memory. As an aside, if folk trudge up and down the M6 to watch us huff and puff against bumpkins and yoghurt knitters, they’re entitled to boo the team off. Evatt needs to learn a little more diplomacy. If we win the next 2 and are all on here praising the performances and superb goals, will you come on and say if we lose 3 of the next 4 this will count for nothing? Sorry if that sounds facetious, but we're just chatting about the away games this season, one win from 6 and hardly a shot on goal worth talking about. Edited October 8, 2022 by Johnnyrotten didnt mean to send Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Biggish Dave Posted October 8, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted October 8, 2022 18 minutes ago, Marc505 said: Still can't understand how Santos has gone all this time without a goal. Attack a corner ffs instead of hanging about around the keeper. Teams should be fearing defending against him at set pieces but they could just as easily not even put a man on him. Use him as a weapon. Run to the front stick - take 2 defenders with him. Hit it long. Rocket science it aint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 19 minutes ago, Marc505 said: Still can't understand how Santos has gone all this time without a goal. Attack a corner ffs instead of hanging about around the keeper. Teams should be fearing defending against him at set pieces but they could just as easily not even put a man on him. Very frustrating not fit to lace beevers & wheaters boots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc505 Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 24 minutes ago, radcliffe white said: Very frustrating not fit to lace beevers & wheaters boots A L2 promotion season plus a season in a bit in this league, they'd have scored about 25 each during that time 🤣 27 minutes ago, Biggish Dave said: Use him as a weapon. Run to the front stick - take 2 defenders with him. Hit it long. Rocket science it aint And yet we make corners look so difficult to get anything out of, every time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Biggish Dave Posted October 8, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted October 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, Marc505 said: A L2 promotion season plus a season in a bit in this league, they'd have scored about 25 each during that time 🤣 And yet we make corners look so difficult to get anything out of, every time. It's getting on my tits now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyrotten Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 46 minutes ago, Marc505 said: Still can't understand how Santos has gone all this time without a goal. Attack a corner ffs instead of hanging about around the keeper. Teams should be fearing defending against him at set pieces but they could just as easily not even put a man on him. I don't share the puzzlement. If you can head a ball well with accuracy and a bit of pace eg Le Fondre, JDB, McGinlay, SKD, Wheater, you'll score a few headers a season. If you can't jump or head very well, you don't score. Santos has got loads of qualities but he doesn't score goals because he can't head straight. How many did 7 foot tall Zat Knight head in compared to 5 foot ALF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolton va va Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 Just back, a sluggish 1st half but much better in the 2nd half, outplaying them & creating at least 3 clear cut chances......& missing them !! Disappointed to lose but not as critical as some......if we take our very good chances, we win comfortably, so I still think we're not far off clicking & though we're too inconsistant for the top 2 , we should be in the play off mix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter desperado Posted October 9, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted October 9, 2022 1 hour ago, bolton va va said: Just back, a sluggish 1st half but much better in the 2nd half, outplaying them & creating at least 3 clear cut chances......& missing them !! Disappointed to lose but not as critical as some......if we take our very good chances, we win comfortably, so I still think we're not far off clicking & though we're too inconsistant for the top 2 , we should be in the play off mix. Good post. Good to get back from a night out and see that someone who was at the game has a balanced perspective 👏 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lostock Whites Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 Not good enough We can't have any ambition for promotion with such an abysmal away record. Just puts extra pressure to win at home as well. All well and good saying to move on from a bad week, but that's 6 points lost there. 6 points could make or break a season come May We have to improve our mentality away from home Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyther_Matt Posted October 9, 2022 Author Share Posted October 9, 2022 Don’t give a fuck how arrogant it sounds, for us to even be playing games at grounds like that is an absolutely insult to our history and to lose there, well, what can you say. Spent the first six weeks of the season berating Bakayoko being a yard short of things, convinced “Charles would have scored there”, but that’s now on no evidence whatsoever. Yes, probably a good save from the keeper, but he still should have scored. All the same, good day out apart from the obvious. Take a bow @BOWTUN BAKEDabove all else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOWTUN BAKED Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 Always the pleasure, n'er the chore 👍 Don't have Nephews that sup all your ale & costs you a fortune in the nightclubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted October 9, 2022 Members Share Posted October 9, 2022 8 hours ago, Johnnyrotten said: Same as those 1-0 away defeats at Cambridge, Sunderland, Sheff Wed, Pompey, Wycombe, Accrington last season and Plymouth this season. Was going to post exactly this. Seems like a biorhythm or similar. Weren't some of these at the same time of year as this year? Frustrating 1-0 defeats that can cost us dearly at the business end of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc505 Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 I just remembered someone went there with a pig mask on and another went dressed up as a butcher. Thats an awful lot of mincing around to make a point about vegans, so to speak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc505 Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 9 hours ago, Johnnyrotten said: I don't share the puzzlement. If you can head a ball well with accuracy and a bit of pace eg Le Fondre, JDB, McGinlay, SKD, Wheater, you'll score a few headers a season. If you can't jump or head very well, you don't score. Santos has got loads of qualities but he doesn't score goals because he can't head straight. How many did 7 foot tall Zat Knight head in compared to 5 foot ALF. It shouldn't be too much to ask for someone taller than most others on the pitch to contribute in some way in the air, or to have even looked like they'd made progress at improving that side of their game over time. Even Zat Knight managed a handful of goals for us. Obviously nowhere near as many as Le Fondre, because one of those was an excellent forward and the other was a cart horse of a defender. Strange comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolli Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 8 hours ago, Lostock Whites said: Not good enough We can't have any ambition for promotion with such an abysmal away record. Just puts extra pressure to win at home as well. All well and good saying to move on from a bad week, but that's 6 points lost there. 6 points could make or break a season come May We have to improve our mentality away from home Be careful! your not allowed to say we are shit on here! AKA happy clappers arana y queso! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 18 minutes ago, Marc505 said: It shouldn't be too much to ask for someone taller than most others on the pitch to contribute in some way in the air, or to have even looked like they'd made progress at improving that side of their game over time. Even Zat Knight managed a handful of goals for us. Obviously nowhere near as many as Le Fondre, because one of those was an excellent forward and the other was a cart horse of a defender. Strange comparison. Tuesday he was wresting with a Cheltenham player on the goal line when a corner was being taken crazy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
embankment Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 Deluxe mini buzz spot on. Stroud OK, standard Spoons, ale house pub OK. That's some bloody hill , fortunately got dropped off at the summit. Managed to lean on the pitch hoarding, accompanied by Jeep . Spotted Mr Meldew about to demolish his vegan sausage n chips . Dire performance, at least one of those 3 chances should have been buried. Some performance required next week . Football , its what we do. But at times it does ya head in . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 I've clocked up over 800 miles this week to watch two poor performances in Gloucestershire. Saturday's was better than Tuesday's in so much as we actually had enough chances to win the game. It wasn't really a lack of creativity against FGR, we created enough to win the game 3 or 4 to 1. Strikers need to be hitting the target and they're not. Jesus, just make the keepr work FFS. Maybe Dapo up top? Only highlights of the day were the excellently organised transport by @BOWTUN BAKED again and the fact that my £35 Uber back from Bolton was happy enough to stop at the kebab shop en route home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted October 9, 2022 Moderators Share Posted October 9, 2022 Just now, Traf said: Maybe Dapo up top? Given the constant changes up top and lack of goals it's surprising he doesn't get more starts I get its not his ideal position but it's arguably not kachungas either I think he's just out of favour and probably on his way out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulhanley Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 17 hours ago, Johnnyrotten said: And the only goal from open play was a header from a free kick, yes it was a great header but not exactly a goal we expect to repeat. For all the possession we have away from home, not one move has resulted in a goal. And its hard to think of when we've been unlucky, like disallowed goals or great saves or hitting posts. It really is odd. Correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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