Meanwhile In England

[royal white]

8 minutes ago, Zico said:

My screenshot was to highlight the lad was tasered and face down on the floor and no longer posing a threat 

For me that is clear 

What isn't clear to me is what your asking 

You've then gone on to make a guess that his taser is broken so booting him in the head is ok 

But honestly, I don't know what he's doing

Neither do I for sure but I reckon a half decent solicitor can use that in his favour .

 

How do you know he’s not a threat, a split second later (you won’t see this in a screen shot) he’s moving. It’s unlikely he can arrest him (like you suggested) because of numbers. Did he try to taser him again but his weapon was fucked? Highly possible  hence the boot. 

Edited July 27, 2024 by royal white

[Jol_BWFC]

10 minutes ago, Ani said:

I think it is another copper that tasers the guy. One of the women he had just been hitting. The copper might taser the lad who is sat down that had been attacking him just before.

There is a lot more mitigation for the coppers action based on the video than for the 'victims'. 

I’m not defending the “victims”. I don’t think they are victims and I’ve said they should go down for a long time based on what I’ve seen (although that’s for the criminal justice system to decide).

But I also believe the copper went too far and should also face the consequences (if any) of his actions. He’s been suspended and he’s facing a criminal investigation. If that process clears him, justice has been done.

Edited July 27, 2024 by Jol_BWFC

[Ani]

1 minute ago, Jol_BWFC said:

I’m not defending the “victims”. I don’t think they are victims and I’ve said they should go down for a long time based on what I’ve seen (although that’s for the criminal Justice to decide).

But I also believe the copper went too far and should also face the consequences (if any) of his actions. He’s been suspended and he’s facing a criminal investigation. If that process clears him, justice has been done.

Agree with all that , not sure anyone could disagree. 
The sad thing is that people on both sides will  say the criminal process is bias against their side and in favour of the other. 
 

People on Twitter calling for Yvette Cooper to resign for some reason. And Andy Burnham. 

[Jol_BWFC]

2 minutes ago, Ani said:

Agree with all that , not sure anyone could disagree. 
The sad thing is that people on both sides will  say the criminal process is bias against their side and in favour of the other. 
 

People on Twitter calling for Yvette Cooper to resign for some reason. And Andy Burnham. 

Sod the CJS, we need Twitter and the Court of WanderersWays to decide. It would be a boring message board if we didn’t give our two pennies’ worth 😄

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

52 minutes ago, Zico said:

My screenshot was to highlight the lad was tasered and face down on the floor and no longer posing a threat 

Just on this point, the full video footage would indicate he's about to come round from the stun of the taser

There's a fair possibility he'd have presented a threat once again seconds later

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

51 minutes ago, Ani said:

People on Twitter calling for Yvette Cooper to resign for some reason. And Andy Burnham. 

Burnham seems to have been really quite balanced on the matter

[Spider]

I’d have not stopped stamping on his head for 5 minutes.

i think the copper has total mitigation based on the twatting they’d just received 

they HAD to regain control of a situation that looked like it was spiralling out of control 

none of us on here would even contemplate going for police officers like that.

 

[Spider]

Now I can see why the lads have tried to get out in front of this and gather support from the brotherhood before the whole story emerged.

they knew they were in the shit

[Zico]

8 hours ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

Just on this point, the full video footage would indicate he's about to come round from the stun of the taser

There's a fair possibility he'd have presented a threat once again seconds later

Hence why cuffs is the next step

Anyway 

I still want to know what they did and where the pepper sprayed lads come into it and the full timeline 

So looking forward to more videos and info 

It's now a good story we can just enjoy without the race card coming into play

Been a pleasant surprise to see that not ACAB round here

[Guest]

Disgraceful. Clearly not all Muslims though. And I would hope that is a very serious breach of electoral law. 

[athywhite1958]

13 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Kinell, how's he doing?

I heard a tale recently, that crime groups target prison officers where one or more of their members are incarcerated.

Not directly violence, but the threat of it to their family etc.

Supposedly, plenty leave the job.

Maybe Athywhite will know.

Prison staff (not just officers but civvies as well) have to be wary at all times due to threats against them, in the nineties we had the Manchester gang culture and we even had Puppy Dog Adair so we knew the dodgy mates would try to influence how they were looked after, we were properly trained in those days to stand up to these people, training is different today there are more training sessions on Diversity than Security, plus the fact a lot of new staff are very young and often female who last about a year in the job, as we have al seen the numerous reports about illicit encounters does not bode well, you only do something once for a con and they have you in their pocket

[bolty58]

30 minutes ago, athywhite1958 said:

Prison staff (not just officers but civvies as well) have to be wary at all times due to threats against them, in the nineties we had the Manchester gang culture and we even had Puppy Dog Adair so we knew the dodgy mates would try to influence how they were looked after, we were properly trained in those days to stand up to these people, training is different today there are more training sessions on Diversity than Security, plus the fact a lot of new staff are very young and often female who last about a year in the job, as we have al seen the numerous reports about illicit encounters does not bode well, you only do something once for a con and they have you in their pocket

Genuinely shocked R 

The fooktards who have foisted this PC/woke/diversity-inclusivity bollocks upon us want stringing up. Then drawn and quartered just to make sure.

[BobyBrno]

10 hours ago, Ani said:

Agree with all that , not sure anyone could disagree. 
The sad thing is that people on both sides will  say the criminal process is bias against their side and in favour of the other. 
 

People on Twitter calling for Yvette Cooper to resign for some reason. And Andy Burnham. 

Andy Burnham has been pretty sensible about the whole thing as I suspect he knows more than most. I also suspect he was having a dig at ‘other’ politicians on this clip. 
 

 

[gonzo]

55 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said:

Disgraceful. Clearly not all Muslims though. And I would hope that is a very serious breach of electoral law. 

Careful you'll have cheese and deenekoontz saying you're full of hate

[little whitt]

36 minutes ago, athywhite1958 said:

Prison staff (not just officers but civvies as well) have to be wary at all times due to threats against them, in the nineties we had the Manchester gang culture and we even had Puppy Dog Adair so we knew the dodgy mates would try to influence how they were looked after, we were properly trained in those days to stand up to these people, training is different today there are more training sessions on Diversity than Security, plus the fact a lot of new staff are very young and often female who last about a year in the job, as we have al seen the numerous reports about illicit encounters does not bode well, you only do something once for a con and they have you in their pocket

That 

Puppy Dog Adair 

now lives in Horwich 

and so called  is a nice chap now 

[bolty58]

4 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

Andy Burnham has been pretty sensible about the whole thing as I suspect he knows more than most. I also suspect he was having a dig at ‘other’ politicians on this clip. 
 

 

Must say the he comes across as very sensible almost all of the time. Seems to genuinely care about the North West and works for its overall betterment. I could almost find myself voting for him if he was my local representative even though I have an instinctive strong anti red reflex (hard to believe, I know).

[Cheese]

17 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Careful you'll have cheese and deenekoontz saying you're full of hate

I apologised, and agreed you'd raised some very reasonable and considered points. 🤷‍♂️

[gonzo]

7 minutes ago, Cheese said:

I apologised, and agreed you'd raised some very reasonable and considered points. 🤷‍♂️

 

[Spider]

18 minutes ago, Cheese said:

I apologised, and agreed you'd raised some very reasonable and considered points. 🤷‍♂️

I’m ok now cheesey boy

Islam Twitter seems to have gone back to simply being anti-Semitic, waffling on about Gaza and Manchester airport must never have happened.

we can just let the law do law things again now.

 

[Zico]

I clicked into the replies of a Tommy Robinson tweet 

Fucking state of this 

 

 

[gonzo]

Ffs 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

 

[Cheese]

3 minutes ago, Spider said:

I’m ok now cheesey boy

Islam Twitter seems to have gone back to simply being anti-Semitic, waffling on about Gaza and Manchester airport must never have happened.

we can just let the law do law things again now.

[Spider]

14 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Sometimes, patience is your friend.

[athywhite1958]

3 hours ago, little whitt said:

That 

Puppy Dog Adair 

now lives in Horwich 

and so called  is a nice chap now 

We had him as wing orderly, he kept the dick heads in check, his dad used to come visiting, always polite and pleasant, Puppy Dog showed us his bullet wounds in his knees where he had been kneecapped

[jmjhb]