Meanwhile In England

[Alf Hartigan]

The key words in the upcoming investigation against the officer will be where his actions reasonable proportionate and necessary. I was in the police in the 90s and I would definitely have kicked the cunt in the face faced with that situation. But that was pre mobile phone days. My gut feeling is he will lose his job. 

[Sweep]

I'd be very surprised if he didn't lose his job

[1969]

14 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Hopefully you're correct. 

Unfortunately, I don't hold out much hope that those in the higher echelons of power will see it that way. A sacrificial lamb to appease the screeching masses.

Can you imagine the trouble if he is allowed to keep his job?

 

Also if them lads don't do time and just get a slap on the wrist

This really is a tricky situation 

[BobyBrno]

29 minutes ago, royal white said:

Personally I  think (and hope)  it will be the other way round. I think there will be uproar within the police service if he’s sacked. I’ve spoke to 2 firearms officers that I know and it’s safe to say they have completely different views than casinos mate. 

My brother was a cadet/ pc/sergeant then inspector. My sister in law was a PC.  Both my wife and sister have/do work for the police. All fully support the Bobby suspended. 
It’s easy making judgments sitting in an armchair (or expensive office chair) without any idea of the thoughts and stresses of an officer in an assault incident. 
Back when policemen wore ties, my brother was instrumental in the regulation changing from a tie to a ‘clip on’ after he was nearly throttled by some bloke in Eccles. 
If you brutally attack, two women firearms officers, as the main assailant did, expect to get shot. He was lucky he only got a kicking. 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

I reckon the police and public sympathy is largely behind the officer.

Still reckon he'll get the boot.

[London Wanderer]

1 hour ago, Cheese said:

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/gang-masked-thugs-kick-stricken-13248543.amp

From 2018.

Will we be getting a Muslims behaving badly video for each year from 2018 ? 

[1969]

5 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

I reckon the police and public sympathy is largely behind the officer.

Still reckon he'll get the boot.

What as a momento 🤭

[BobyBrno]

8 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

I reckon the police and public sympathy is largely behind the officer.

Still reckon he'll get the boot.

If you watch the second video, the main assailant was punching shit out of two policewomen whilst the accused Bobby was dealing with the other guy. He was then attacked from behind and dragged to the ground before regaining the initiative and then  the kicking and stamping incident occurred. It wasn’t premeditated, it was a reaction to a very violent and dangerous situation. I doubt any court will convict him for that. 

[London Wanderer]

2 hours ago, royal white said:

See, you can speak sense at times 👍

You patronising fcker 😉

 have to admit I’ve gone full swing on this one.

Haven’t I always told you that these short twitter videos don’t give the full context ? 

2 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Essentially yes, but his actions will be sufficient for him to lose his job. Politically, pressure on the hierarchy will amost certainly see to that.

Might mitigate any attempt at a conviction 

 

I would hope not. In reality I think he’ll end up offered a new role. But if I was him I’d be wanting to sue if so. It’s a poor decision to kick but it’s under intense pressure. 
 

More positive statements from the family today too. Have to respect their calls for calm. They dropped the dodgy lawyer as well. 

Edited July 28, 2024 by London Wanderer

[Casino]

Having now seen the lead up video i can see there was a lot of provocation

But, you cant have a bloke who loses his rag carrying a gun

Are we all asking to see what happened before the latest video?

What have they done to need 4/5 armed police?

[only1swanny]

8 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

You patronising fcker 😉

 have to admit I’ve gone full swing on this one.

Haven’t I always told you that these short twitter videos don’t give the full context ? 

I would hope not. In reality I think he’ll end up offered a new role. But if I was him I’d be wanting to sue if so. It’s a poor decision to kick but it’s under intense pressure. 
 

More positive statements from the family today too. Have to respect their calls for calm. They dropped the dodgy lawyer as well. 

He's probably ran away tail between his legs..

Stoke up violence, plead racism then dissappear when proven wrong 

[Casino]

Ps, im def not ACAB

Cant stand them lot, but coppers have to behave and follow the rules

[only1swanny]

Lads should do time.

Officer quits..

Only way I can see it ending well, I follow a group on faveache which is meant for police, firearms officers are already at breaking point as they don't feel supported in their roles. 

This might send them over the edge, 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

11 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

If you watch the second video, the main assailant was punching shit out of two policewomen whilst the accused Bobby was dealing with the other guy. He was then attacked from behind and dragged to the ground before regaining the initiative and then  the kicking and stamping incident occurred. It wasn’t premeditated, it was a reaction to a very violent and dangerous situation. I doubt any court will convict him for that. 

Court is one thing, losing his job is another. 

Like I said above, a sacrificial lamb.

There'll be riots otherwise, and the top brass won't want that.

[BobyBrno]

4 minutes ago, Casino said:

Having now seen the lead up video i can see there was a lot of provocation

But, you cant have a bloke who loses his rag carrying a gun

Are we all asking to see what happened before the latest video?

What have they done to need 4/5 armed police?

You say losing his rag, people in the know would say containing the situation whilst assessing the situation.

As you say, there is still more to come. 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

2 minutes ago, only1swanny said:

Lads should do time.

Officer quits..

Only way I can see it ending well, I follow a group on faveache which is meant for police, firearms officers are already at breaking point as they don't feel supported in their roles. 

This might send them over the edge, 

Yep. The armed guys in London have already shown their ire. Depending how it all goes, I can see plenty more handing in their ticket.

[Casino]

1 minute ago, BobyBrno said:

You say losing his rag, people in the know would say containing the situation whilst assessing the situation.

As you say, there is still more to come. 

My person itk says losing his rag

Id be amazed if he keeps his job and even more amazed if he keeps his gun

[BobyBrno]

4 minutes ago, Casino said:

My person itk says losing his rag

Id be amazed if he keeps his job and even more amazed if he keeps his gun

Does he direct traffic?

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

11 minutes ago, Casino said:

Are we all asking to see what happened before the latest video?

What have they done to need 4/5 armed police?

Burnham is claiming there was an "incident" on the flight involving the mother of the two brothers, resulting in the brothers attending the airport in readiness for the landing

There was then an "altercation" in the arrival lounge, which resulted in the family being followed through the airport on CCTV and firearms officers attempting an arrest in the parking area

[gonzo]

I love people passing comment on physical altercations when they've probably never been involved in one in their life.

 

[little whitt]

5 hours ago, royal white said:

He’s been dead 8 year. No wonder he’s keeping out of trouble. 

You are Right Sir 

its the Daughter that 

lives in Horwich 

next to said friend of mine

[gonzo]

17 minutes ago, Casino said:

Having now seen the lead up video i can see there was a lot of provocation

But, you cant have a bloke who loses his rag carrying a gun

Are we all asking to see what happened before the latest video?

What have they done to need 4/5 armed police?

Losing his rag? He's just been wrestled to the ground and twatted about 10 times after his female colleague.

They aren't bloody robots ffs.

[London Wanderer]

19 minutes ago, only1swanny said:

He's probably ran away tail between his legs..

Stoke up violence, plead racism then dissappear when proven wrong 

Aye

Hopefully less people look for his support now. Bonkers that he can keep defending folk but the copper may not.  
 

Any of this make you think of your job pal ? I’ve had some pupils seriously go for me on occasions. Ukelele thrown at the head, parents waiting at the gate after work, kids hurling chairs & a pencil in the arm. It’s incredibly tricky to stay calm & follow the right procedure when your body is in fight or flight mode and you’re under threat. Obviously we’re not coppers & it’s a very different scenario (& job), but I think there will be a lot of people judging his actions with no understanding of just how difficult those situations can be. 

Edited July 28, 2024 by London Wanderer

[radcliffe white]

Scandalous if the officer gets punished

i take it the guy he took down is well enough now to be charged 

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

3 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Ukelele thrown at the head, parents waiting at the gate after work, kids hurling chairs & a pencil in the arm. It’s incredibly tricky to stay calm & follow the right procedure when your body is in fight or flight mode and you’re under threat. 

Those kind of things really are unacceptable, especially the parents waiting outside - it's ridiculous that anyone doing their best to educate someone's child should have to face that kind of behaviour/threat from a grown adult

(I have to admit that, although I'm in no doubt it was a traumatic experience, the phrase "ukelele thrown at the head" did make me chuckle a little)