Meanwhile In England

[little whitt]

5 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Losing his rag? He's just been wrestled to the ground and twatted about 10 times after his female colleague.

They aren't bloody robots ffs.

He has done 

what he is trained to do 

Keep the Suspect on the ground 

with any Means Nessery 

with out using Lethal Force 

[DaveTheRave]

On 24/07/2024 at 16:24, DaveTheRave said:

If they have assaulted the police or anybody else before the video starts then hopefully they get sent down.

The copper who kicks him in the head and then stomps on his head should also get sent down.

After seeing the video of it all kicking off I was wrong saying the copper should get sent down. The lad on the floor was lucky it was only a kick to the face and not a bullet to the head.

[London Wanderer]

14 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

Those kind of things really are unacceptable, especially the parents waiting outside - it's ridiculous that anyone doing their best to educate someone's child should have to face that kind of behaviour/threat from a grown adult

(I have to admit that, although I'm in no doubt it was a traumatic experience, the phrase "ukelele thrown at the head" did make me chuckle a little)

Laugh away. It’s a great sentence 😁 the sound of 33 kids attempting to play them would make anyone want to launch one at the adult making them do it 😂

But aye, It’s not acceptable & shouldn’t be part of the job. But  most of the kids finished the year calmer & happier for it. So it some ways it was worth it.

The parent can get to fck. 

[only1swanny]

1 hour ago, London Wanderer said:

Aye

Hopefully less people look for his support now. Bonkers that he can keep defending folk but the copper may not.  
 

Any of this make you think of your job pal ? I’ve had some pupils seriously go for me on occasions. Ukelele thrown at the head, parents waiting at the gate after work, kids hurling chairs & a pencil in the arm. It’s incredibly tricky to stay calm & follow the right procedure when your body is in fight or flight mode and you’re under threat. Obviously we’re not coppers & it’s a very different scenario (& job), but I think there will be a lot of people judging his actions with no understanding of just how difficult those situations can be. 

We see a snapshot of what the police see every day, there's 1000s off sick with things they've seen or done or had to deal with, plus the fact that nobody wants to be your mate, as your a cop.. 

Edited July 28, 2024 by only1swanny

[London Wanderer]

2 hours ago, gonzo said:

Nice bit of Sunday viewing

 

 

Saw 5 minutes. He's gone proper tinfoil hat on the 'establishment'. Absolute muppet. 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

1 hour ago, gonzo said:

Losing his rag? He's just been wrestled to the ground and twatted about 10 times after his female colleague.

They aren't blojaody robots ffs.

Absolutely. 

It is only a term, but whatever term you use, his behaviour is perhaps understandable. They're human.

He shouldn't have done it in an official sense, but that's very different from being in the real life situation. 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

30 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Saw 5 minutes. He's gone proper tinfoil hat on the 'establishment'. Absolute muppet. 

I've not watched it yet- but I'll watch it all before making a judgement. 

One thing we do know is that there are plenty of examples of the establishment not doing what they should etc.

[London Wanderer]

1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

I've not watched it yet- but I'll watch it all before making a judgement. 

One thing we do know is that there are plenty of examples of the establishment not doing what they should etc.

It's about one case. One in which he was made to pay damages. He lost in court. 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-57930901

I've watched plenty of Tommy's stuff in detail, but I won't be giving this a full 1 hour 21 minutes of my time. 

Even if the court was wrong in this case. To claim the establishment is 'out to get him' and that he is the 'only journalist in the UK speaking the truth' is fantasy nonsense. Especially from him. 

Does this ground breaking new documentary prove he was right all along? 

Edited July 28, 2024 by London Wanderer

[Spider]

6 hours ago, Cheese said:

But I got told white people don't organise snap protests, only the Muzzies do?!?

It’s only Twitter.

Surely you’ve not started believing it has any influence?

Surely.

[London Wanderer]

Gem of a quote from the patriots march yesterday,

Speaking to the Telegraph, he said: ‘We’ve lost our Christian identity. I’m not a Christian. Being Christian is about being polite, queuing up. Standing in a queue. [British people] queue up. But other nationalities people from other cultures, they don’t follow our way of being.’

[Not in Crawley]

Just leaving Leicester Square. London (as it always is first two weeks after school break up) is quiet as a mouse. It's tourist central. With trafalgar square I've done a few PR things there, costs 2k to rent the space but you need to book it really far ahead, and it's not the rental of the space that costs its the stewarding - and the paperwork around that. But because London is quite quiet at the moment that's why they allow political bookings and marches in July/August because the city just isn't as busy.

[gonzo]

19 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

Just leaving Leicester Square. London (as it always is first two weeks after school break up) is quiet as a mouse. It's tourist central. With trafalgar square I've done a few PR things there, costs 2k to rent the space but you need to book it really far ahead, and it's not the rental of the space that costs its the stewarding - and the paperwork around that. But because London is quite quiet at the moment that's why they allow political bookings and marches in July/August because the city just isn't as busy.

Thanks for that 👍

[Not in Crawley]

10 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Thanks for that 👍

Maybe don't believe the guff?

[gonzo]

3 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

Maybe don't believe the guff?

I was just thanking you for your diary input. It was very nice.

 

[Cheese]

40 minutes ago, Spider said:

It’s only Twitter.

Surely you’ve not started believing it has any influence?

Surely.

 

Because it was impossible to organise a protest before 2006. 😁

[Not in Crawley]

Just now, gonzo said:

I was just thanking you for your diary input. It was very nice.

 

Oh well, currently stuck in Faversham for 20 minutes due to driver things. So I'm dead happy I can claim back my 13 quid.

Might as well move back to Bolton speed of these South Eastern trains.

 

[captainmed]

2 hours ago, London Wanderer said:

Saw 5 minutes. He's gone proper tinfoil hat on the 'establishment'. Absolute muppet. 

When dissent is crushed, free speech dies.

[bolty58]

4 hours ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

(I have to admit that, although I'm in no doubt it was a traumatic experience, the phrase "ukelele thrown at the head" did make me chuckle a little)

Kind of thing you'd expect to see in places like Formby.

[Mounts Kipper]

4 hours ago, bolty58 said:

Kind of thing you'd expect to see in places like Formby.

And when your cleaning windows. 

[Guest]

10 hours ago, London Wanderer said:

Saw 5 minutes. He's gone proper tinfoil hat on the 'establishment'. Absolute muppet. 

The only people who think there is some sort of establishment trying to suppress them are extremist cranks - see the same behaviour for corbynites and their supporters. An imaginary establishment that they can’t define or explain. Usually means ‘most folk don’t agree with me wah wah.’

[SatanGreavsie]

8 hours ago, bolty58 said:

Kind of thing you'd expect to see in places like Formby.

Well at least it all turned out nice again in the end.

[London Wanderer]

2 hours ago, bwfcfan5 said:

The only people who think there is some sort of establishment trying to suppress them are extremist cranks - see the same behaviour for corbynites and their supporters. An imaginary establishment that they can’t define or explain. Usually means ‘most folk don’t agree with me wah wah.’

Aye

 & the rules for contempt of court were pretty well established already. It was his choice to break them.

He speaks about this being a groundbreaking documentary, he spends most his time stood in front of a pond in his stone island jacket waffling anecdotal shite with very little evidence.

 

[Zico]

10 hours ago, captainmed said:

When dissent is crushed, free speech dies.

Free speech doesn't mean you can say or do as you please and not expect consequences if lines are crossed 

In this case it appears he was arrested for screening a libelous film he knew full well he wasn't allowed to screen 

I think one thing we all agree on after this week's events is that if you disrespect the law you must face the consequences, however extreme they may appear 

[London Wanderer]

10 hours ago, captainmed said:

When dissent is crushed, free speech dies.

Haha. He was protesting in Trafalgar Square with thousands of others. Nobody stopped them protesting. At what point was their free speech prevented? 
 

He was asked not to play the video because he lost the libel case in court. As a result of that, he was told not to show further content that damages the victims reputation. That’s a perfectly reasonable aspect of our justice system no?

For example, if some loony was falsely accusing you of being a vile, racist paedo & it was affecting your reputation. You could then take them to court & sue them for damages & clear your name. After you won, it would be perfectly reasonable to expect the judge to ask the person not to repeat their actions. 

Funnily enough mate, everything Tommy & yourself is referring to is an example of free speech & justice in action. 

So stop being a snowflake & take a look at Russia if you want to see a genuine example of dissent being crushed 🙂

[Guest]

27 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Aye

 & the rules for contempt of court were pretty well established already. It was his choice to break them.

He speaks about this being a groundbreaking documentary, he spends most his time stood in front of a pond in his stone island jacket waffling anecdotal shite with very little evidence.

 

It’s absolute hogswash. The fact so many seem to be prepared to give him and it an airtime is concerning and as Blair says a failure of the political class (including himself).

The danger in these times is people look for easy answers when there are none.

Equally politicians have a duty to really acknowledge and fix the community problems that immigration has created whether perceived or real it doesn’t matter.