Not in Crawley Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 14 minutes ago, Ani said: Here is the sum total of my maths. We have 2m vaccines available. We should be in a position to administer them. I am not privy to does that mean 20k people or 200k. I never said random people. If we need 200k people these should be ready and have been trained over last 6 months. How many vaccines do you think we should be aiming to vaccinate per week ? OK training, we're from? Who with? Overseen by whom? I just think its a massive simplification of a bigger issue in my humble opinion, and like most on here - its not my world, so I'd rather leave it to the people who know rather than stabs in the dark which I just think is not hugely helpful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiggyStardust Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 36 minutes ago, Casino said: Obvs we need to know how many vaccines we can have but fwiw, I'd not have the NHS doing this Looks perfect for the army After theyve enforced the covid rules in supermarkets, on the streets and manned the nightingales To be fair, all their leave has been cancelled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiggyStardust Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 27 minutes ago, Casino said: Theres others better qualified that I could ask but she would probably go on for days about her frustrations Tbh, these are extreme times but if we are not ready to go on this, heads should be rolling...ministers, senior managers? Who knows Without getting political, I do think there have been signs that the govt have been reluctant to take on board outside expertise, showing a we know better attitude I dont think they do I hope you are not insinuating that Dido Harding knows less about software development than all those software developers who said 'this wont work' ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 7 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said: OK training, we're from? Who with? Overseen by whom? I just think its a massive simplification of a bigger issue in my humble opinion, and like most on here - its not my world, so I'd rather leave it to the people who know rather than stabs in the dark which I just think is not hugely helpful. So avoid the question on the number you think we should be aiming for. Why have 2m vaccines but not resource up to use them ? The who, where , when etc question is one that should have been asked and answered already. We have millions on furlough we had thousands volunteer to help the NHS I do not know what efforts have been made to resource up. This has been with us a year in March the scientists have said since day 1 a vaccine is the way out of this. Please drop this ‘not useful’ bollocks from your posts this is a football forum where any subject gets discussed and you join in to most of them. My numbers are totally theoretical but surely someone knows or should know what is a reasonable daily turnover. All I am saying is that if after months of knowing this is coming that we have not resourced up and instead are going to have Boris and the boys avoiding the question it is a disgrace. Meanwhile we need to find extra resource to manage and look after the stock piles of vaccine. I am really not sure what there is to disagree with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombwfc Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, Ani said: So avoid the question on the number you think we should be aiming for. Why have 2m vaccines but not resource up to use them ? The who, where , when etc question is one that should have been asked and answered already. We have millions on furlough we had thousands volunteer to help the NHS I do not know what efforts have been made to resource up. This has been with us a year in March the scientists have said since day 1 a vaccine is the way out of this. Please drop this ‘not useful’ bollocks from your posts this is a football forum where any subject gets discussed and you join in to most of them. My numbers are totally theoretical but surely someone knows or should know what is a reasonable daily turnover. All I am saying is that if after months of knowing this is coming that we have not resourced up and instead are going to have Boris and the boys avoiding the question it is a disgrace. Meanwhile we need to find extra resource to manage and look after the stock piles of vaccine. I am really not sure what there is to disagree with. The idea that we will have 2m vaccines a week in the near future to give to anyone is where you're going wrong I think. Listen to Hancock on the Today show this morning, it'll be months before we have 2m a week. People want the government to spell out when they expect to be releasing restrictions, they have. It's Easter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, Tombwfc said: The idea that we will have 2m vaccines a week in the near future to give to anyone is where you're going wrong I think. Listen to Hancock on the Today show this morning, it'll be months before we have 2m a week. People want the government to spell out when they expect to be releasing restrictions, they have. It's Easter. The guy from AZ said said 2m a week by mid Jan. But the number might be 500k. I just want the Govt to confirm the anticipated number. And that we have resource in place to use immediately. Claims like below. 10s of millions by March. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9108223/amp/Boris-vows-tens-millions-Covid-vaccine-doses-March.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 9 minutes ago, Tombwfc said: The idea that we will have 2m vaccines a week in the near future to give to anyone is where you're going wrong I think. Listen to Hancock on the Today show this morning, it'll be months before we have 2m a week. People want the government to spell out when they expect to be releasing restrictions, they have. It's Easter. As I told everyone 2 weeks ago at least. It’s actually got worse since then as in terms of case numbers rising etc. but still standing by Easter if we can get a vaccination programme working properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 9 minutes ago, Tombwfc said: The idea that we will have 2m vaccines a week in the near future to give to anyone is where you're going wrong I think. Listen to Hancock on the Today show this morning, it'll be months before we have 2m a week. People want the government to spell out when they expect to be releasing restrictions, they have. It's Easter. He was very vague, basically saying we have 500K(ish) now, and we'll have millions more by the beginning of February - I'm not sure we'll be seeing 2M a week for a while yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted January 4, 2021 Moderators Share Posted January 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, Mr Grey said: 5k testing kits delivered this morning for Staff and Students. And that's why the Government don't want a national lockdown, they have invested heavily in this. We are 450 billion quid in The cost of a few hundred thousand testing kits isnt a reason to keep schools open Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombwfc Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 6 minutes ago, Sweep said: He was very vague, basically saying we have 500K(ish) now, and we'll have millions more by the beginning of February - I'm not sure we'll be seeing 2M a week for a while yet He wasn't that vague... he was directly asked about quotes saying that we'll have 2m doses a week from AZ in mid-Jan and said it wasn't true. And that we'd hope to reach that number in the coming months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 4 minutes ago, Casino said: We are 450 billion quid in The cost of a few hundred thousand testing kits isnt a reason to keep schools open Eye watering isn't it, we'll be a lot deeper, probably closer to £600B by the time we're finished, especially when they decide to Tier 4 the entire country until March, which I suspect is coming fairly imminently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, Tombwfc said: He wasn't that vague... he was directly asked about quotes saying that we'll have 2m doses a week from AZ in mid-Jan and said it wasn't true. And that we'd hope to reach that number in the coming months. Tbf that is what we need. Let’s stop trying to sweeten the message. Boris is the worse one for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghana White Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Not sure if its been covered not looked on here for a while but job adverts I've seen for immunisations seem to be training up the vaccinators and using nurses to supervise the sessions.. I'm not sure who checks for allergies and what the comeback will be? I'd guess the nurse overseeing the session will be in charge of adrenaline in case of bad reactions, not sure if that means they need to be a prescriber theres not too many of them. Couple of mates in Stockport have been seconded from the chidrens ward to do vaccinations.. they seem to have given quite a lot to health professionals there judging by how many people I know who've had it.. I've no idea on numbers though beyond that anecdotal evidence. I've seen a few comments under adverts on Facebook for this saying the hourly rate isnt great so might struggle to get people due to that.. I'm still fairly hopeful that with a bit of luck the vaccine will make it a much better world by early summer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Esco is stuck in Sturgeon land for the duration of January, unless he escapes before midnight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 1 minute ago, miamiwhite said: Esco is stuck in Sturgeon land for the duration of January, unless he escapes before midnight No point escaping here as will only be stuck in north west very shortly mate. Knew all this was coming so have accepted it. time for my brother to actually start caring for his mother the little cunt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, Escobarp said: No point escaping here as will only be stuck in north west very shortly mate. Knew all this was coming so have accepted it. time for my brother to actually start caring for his mother the little cunt Nightmare isn't it mate ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Just now, miamiwhite said: Nightmare isn't it mate ? Yep brutal pal. But necessary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
athywhite1958 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Krankie's done it, lockdown from midnight tonight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 1 minute ago, Escobarp said: Yep brutal pal. But necessary Should cut Sturgeon's funding off instantly, give her a sample of how she would manage after Indy 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Churches mosques the lot shut. Proper job this 👍🏼 Take note Boris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 1 minute ago, Escobarp said: Churches mosques the lot shut. Proper job this 👍🏼 Take note Boris We don't have churches in England mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, miamiwhite said: We don't have churches in England mate 😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 9 minutes ago, athywhite1958 said: Krankie's done it, lockdown from midnight tonight Boris will decide to follow suit in a few days, probably around Thursday I'd have thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
athywhite1958 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 I don't think Boris wants a full lockdown but he needs to get people onside and follow the rules, how? not a clue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 32 minutes ago, Tombwfc said: He wasn't that vague... he was directly asked about quotes saying that we'll have 2m doses a week from AZ in mid-Jan and said it wasn't true. And that we'd hope to reach that number in the coming months. Did he give any explanation as to why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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