Dimron Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 In my world goalies need to be brave and command the defence. Should not be worried about coming out and taking one, the odd flattened nose and broken tooth is part of the job... that leads to an older ugly git, the young athletic keepers are too concerned about looking good on faceboook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 One thing with Gilks that hasn’t been mentioned. Evatt’s game relies on playing out from the back, and therefore the keeper being good with his feet - is Gilks capable or is he an old school, wait for it to go out of play and kick it as far as you can type? I’d rather he started on Tuesday, because ultimately I want my keeper to stop shots and catch crosses, but I don’t think Evatt will see it that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted November 1, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted November 1, 2020 29 minutes ago, Eddie said: One thing with Gilks that hasn’t been mentioned. Evatt’s game relies on playing out from the back, and therefore the keeper being good with his feet - is Gilks capable or is he an old school, wait for it to go out of play and kick it as far as you can type? I’d rather he started on Tuesday, because ultimately I want my keeper to stop shots and catch crosses, but I don’t think Evatt will see it that way. I’d take a ‘kick as far as you can’ keeper. At least that way the first shit touch is in the opposition half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted November 1, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted November 1, 2020 Worryingly, during the Orient game, the commentator made the observation that Gilkes was away from the technical area and speaking directly to Crellin on two separate occasions during the game. Have we ever before seen the GK coach counselling a keeper during a game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWFC_LOVE Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 I genuinely believe there was no intention of ever having Gilks playing a game for us when signed as player/coach If he does come in it really is a desperate move. Not that I’d be against it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted November 1, 2020 Moderators Share Posted November 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, MickyD said: Worryingly, during the Orient game, the commentator made the observation that Gilkes was away from the technical area and speaking directly to Crellin on two separate occasions during the game. Have we ever before seen the GK coach counselling a keeper during a game? Yes Last season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted November 1, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted November 1, 2020 If Crellin had been red carded yesterday and we’d had to put an outfield player I don’t think the result would have been as bad as it was. Obviously the level of expectation would change but I think so also would the remaining outfield players play up a bit to protect the non-keeper. Maybe we ought to worry that they haven’t recognised that we’re already playing with a non-keeper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marple whites Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 (edited) Not sure if it’s not a bit nieve if not reckless playing without a sub goalie. crellin could easily have been sent off within a minute yesterday and then what ? dont really think one less outfield sub is a problem is it ? Edited November 1, 2020 by marple whites Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ands1 Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 Crellins heads gone, yes he's a professional player but beleive me the harder he'll try the worse it'll get for him at the moment, he'll be in the club houses after games embarrassed and ashamed I can guarantee it. Unfortunately he needs resting for at least till the New Year so he can re set himself. This will probably hurt him but I think its best for him, Ian Evatt and BWFC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted November 1, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted November 1, 2020 Whatever way this pans out it will look as though it’s all down to Crellin when it’s probably more likely to do with Gilkes and the way he trains keepers. Crellin has got as far as playing for a big team in div4. You’d think his flaws would’ve manifested way before he got here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrested development Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 Gilks was pretty big even when he was playing wasn't he ? What sort of shape is he in now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted November 2, 2020 Members Share Posted November 2, 2020 9 hours ago, MickyD said: Whatever way this pans out it will look as though it’s all down to Crellin when it’s probably more likely to do with Gilkes and the way he trains keepers. Crellin has got as far as playing for a big team in div4. You’d think his flaws would’ve manifested way before he got here. If any coach has taught Crellin that positioning for the free kick they should be sacked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Faustus Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 2 hours ago, Rudy said: If any coach has taught Crellin that positioning for the free kick they should be sacked BC and I have a mutual friend, and I told just that. He was nowhere near them, and it's either inexperience or poor coaching... His starting position all wrong and not impressed with his wall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SalCity Biggie Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 It might have already been suggested, but aren't there any half decent free agent goalies knocking about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted November 2, 2020 Members Share Posted November 2, 2020 13 minutes ago, Dr Faustus said: BC and I have a mutual friend, and I told just that. He was nowhere near them, and it's either inexperience or poor coaching... His starting position all wrong and not impressed with his wall. I refuse to accept it’s a coach. There’s no way he’s passing his qualifications if that’s how he’s coached a keeper, let alone a former keeper ffs 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger_Dubuis Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 When Uncle miami was buying Wigan the 4th Division title back in the late 1990s he paid 350k for a goalkeeper.I suppose if you sign the Fleetwood reserves keeper on loan the expectation should be less but oddly it isn't for some fans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregbwfc Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 2 hours ago, Rudy said: If any coach has taught Crellin that positioning for the free kick they should be sacked If a keeper has got far enough to make it to the pro game, he should already know himself how to set up a wall and position to take. Shouldn't need a coach to tell him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughmungus Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 Manuel Neuer would look shit behind this lot, add to that Evatts idiotic coaching tactical nouse and its a recipe for disaster no matter who is in goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted November 2, 2020 Members Share Posted November 2, 2020 55 minutes ago, gregbwfc said: If a keeper has got far enough to make it to the pro game, he should already know himself how to set up a wall and position to take. Shouldn't need a coach to tell him. Keepers are idiots. They need reminding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Faustus Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 21 minutes ago, Rudy said: Keepers are idiots. They need reminding 😂 Can't argue with that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masi 51 Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 13 hours ago, Ands1 said: Crellins heads gone, yes he's a professional player but beleive me the harder he'll try the worse it'll get for him at the moment, he'll be in the club houses after games embarrassed and ashamed I can guarantee it. Unfortunately he needs resting for at least till the New Year so he can re set himself. This will probably hurt him but I think its best for him, Ian Evatt and BWFC Send him back to Fleetwood. Gilks can go in the sticks if he not good enough get rid. No sentiment in lge 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 1 hour ago, hughmungus said: Manuel Neuer would look shit behind this lot, add to that Evatts idiotic coaching tactical nouse and its a recipe for disaster no matter who is in goal. He really wouldn’t. What a ridiculous statement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted November 2, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted November 2, 2020 52 minutes ago, Escobarp said: He really wouldn’t. What a ridiculous statement I'm wondering if it's Keith Hill. On topic, the keeper must be having an adverse effect on the defenders. Dibble mentioned above- I remember the impact he had on our back 4; much more solid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregbwfc Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Rudy said: Keepers are idiots. They need reminding Oh I know. And I did 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HazzyinBolton Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 I feel sorry for Crellin. He's doing his best & he's clearly not ready to be a League 2 No. 1 keeper. He looks fragile, flaps at crosses & his positioning for shots & that free kick vs LO was poor. He's costing us every week & whoever said it before is right - opposition team talks vs us are easy - pepper the keeper with shots & crosses & we'll get something. It doesn't help him that Baptiste is in front of him who's also a liability. He needs taking out of the firing line & the best of Alexander or Gilks putting in until we can find a proper replacement. Baptiste needs dropping, we need to go to a back 4 & start from the basis of protecting our goal. Plenty of time to build on that with more expansive football when we have some confidence & points to fall back on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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