Moderators Casino Posted March 10 Moderators Share Posted March 10 11 minutes ago, tomski said: It’s a fair shout on the injuries. That said questions want to be asked if we think 55-60 mins is an acceptable expectation. I’ve no idea if he played more mins at Brizzle but I’d guess yes based on his stats. I guess he had a completely different role Wander about and get involved when you fancy against the job here which is run your bollocks off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 1 minute ago, Casino said: I guess he had a completely different role Wander about and get involved when you fancy against the job here which is run your bollocks off I understand that but it needs adapting till they do a pre season or whatever because Jerome should not be getting the minutes he is at the mo. Their co comms was shocked when he came on as he used to play against him back when and was surprised he was still going. A few were laughing at the Gayle signing a few week back. Big difference in what those 2 offer for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulhanley Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 The heroics at Barnsley gave us great hope but the failure to build on that yesterday speaks volumes for where we are at. I see a lot of sense in what people are saying. Key injuries have affected us badly and I agree that we lack leadership on the pitch. There's an element of the squad lacking physique as well as the leadership thing. Especially against better sides we just don't seem able to grip games that we've gained control of through possession. There seems also to be a lack of concentration and inability to keep switched on for 90 minutes. Despite all of the above we are not far away from being good enough. If we don't go up, grafting bits of experience and know-how in to central midfield and central defence ought not to be difficult. But that's for another day. One thing for sure, if we do scramble up via one of the two routes available, the Championship is very likely to chew up and spit out our current squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUREADY2ROLL Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 Heads went in the second half after that ridiculous equaliser- at half time I never thought Exeter would have one chance because we were so on top. No confidence at all of us getting many more points after that - Sunday blues Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyrotten Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 11 hours ago, TM Trotter said: Long game, I'd guess. Collins, 26, fairly high ability ceiling: potential resale value. Gayle, 34, similar wages most likely, on the way down, no resale value. We've already got a couple falling into that bracket (Bod, Jerome), why get a third? As an aside, I'll plait shit if Jerome isn't given a coaching contract next year. The days of giving journeymen huge final pay days is hopefully long behind us. Not sure how Bod is in the same bracket as Jerome. 6 years difference, since Jerome was Bod's age he's played at least 150 1st team games. This is not a shout out for Bod to be playing every week, I get that he's not scoring enough, but let's not bring his age into it. He's the player that's permanently available for selection, while 95% of his teammates take it in turns to be unavailable through injury or suspension. And while not obviously wanting to give out the huge final paydays as you say - some of our more recent one's, Gary O'Neill, Karl Henry, Kieran Lee, Eion Doyle were great role models and top players. Jerome whilst not as important to our team has similar attributes. I'd be more than happy to sign another of that ilk for next season, in fact I think we need a couple of them because its something we lack. Any 35 year old centre backs on their way down fancy a season or two here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 I reckon we'd have been outbid for Gayle anyway And besides, I think Collins will be a big player for us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyrotten Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 3 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said: We were out in our feet second half was unbelievable we somehow managed to scrape a point. If we don’t go up this season we’ve simply got to sacrifice the PJ trophy early doors. Its really hard to get out of that cup, it takes 100% focus, careful planning and clever team selection. I'm not sure we've mastered the art yet but we can continue to work on it. We've nailed being crap at penalties though and that gives us a platform. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 Just now, Johnnyrotten said: Its really hard to get out of that cup, it takes 100% focus, careful planning and clever team selection. I'm not sure we've mastered the art yet but we can continue to work on it. We've nailed being crap at penalties though and that gives us a platform. We need to be out before we get to the knockout stages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyrotten Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 2 hours ago, onefinfrandsen said: Love a cup run but if we do miss out this season then we can’t have any distractions next season Its unrealistic. August comes round and we draw Barrow at home in the League Cup. New signings (and Forrester) desperate to get a game and show what they can do. We are going to beat them, then its the 2nd round and we've won 3 out of 4 league games, we get drawn against a championship team and everyone wants to show what they can do against a higher league team. Same principle in FA Cup, no manager is going to put himself under pressure by losing in the 1st 2 rounds to Harrogate or Grimsby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted March 10 Site Supporter Share Posted March 10 22 hours ago, newton_white said: Isn’t his girlfriend due with their baby anytime now? Confirmed. https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/24174638.bolton-wanderers-boss-explains-aaron-morleys-exeter-absence/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 Some derby fans got on our train yesterday had a good chat with the general feeling that this L1 is much poorer than recent seasons like me they acknowledged both teams would struggle in the championship however with the potential teams coming down and a few L2 clubs having money it could be very difficult next year so it really needs to be now the addition of gayle has gone down well he’s not a 90min man but in short periods he’s made an impact Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 Just seen their first. Keeper doesn’t come rushing out, he doesn’t score. Simple as that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted March 10 Site Supporter Share Posted March 10 (edited) 5 minutes ago, mickbrown said: Just seen their first. Keeper doesn’t come rushing out, he doesn’t score. Simple as that. We should have had the game dead and buried by half time. More fault lying with our front line than our back in my opinion. However, both have been massively diminished so it would be harsh to throw blame in either direction. We did well to come away with a point. Edited March 10 by Cheese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lostock Whites Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 There's just a serious concentration issue with our team. We've conceded lots of poor goals but also how many goals close in the opening halves of the game? Exeter scored from kick off, Barnsley got one 2 minutes into the 2nd half and also 3 mins into the half of the first game last month. The team are just not switched on mentally, which is strange considering how experienced our back line is, we've got Jones back, Santos back etc. I know we miss Baxter but these issues should not be happening over and over again. It's getting seriously exhausting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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little whitt Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 4 minutes ago, Zico said: Poor lad has only got is PINKEY Finger left Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stig Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 2 hours ago, Johnnyrotten said: Not sure how Bod is in the same bracket as Jerome. 6 years difference, since Jerome was Bod's age he's played at least 150 1st team games. This is not a shout out for Bod to be playing every week, I get that he's not scoring enough, but let's not bring his age into it. He's the player that's permanently available for selection, while 95% of his teammates take it in turns to be unavailable through injury or suspension. And while not obviously wanting to give out the huge final paydays as you say - some of our more recent one's, Gary O'Neill, Karl Henry, Kieran Lee, Eion Doyle were great role models and top players. Jerome whilst not as important to our team has similar attributes. I'd be more than happy to sign another of that ilk for next season, in fact I think we need a couple of them because its something we lack. Any 35 year old centre backs on their way down fancy a season or two here? Remember Allardyce's promotion season, brought in Colin Hendry for a final payday to get us over the line. Just that bit of experience that we'd love to have now of as you say a 35 year old defender or centre mid to have helped us through. Oh well, we have what we have, and it's a great squad on paper. No excuses really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stig Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 2 hours ago, Johnnyrotten said: Its unrealistic. August comes round and we draw Barrow at home in the League Cup. New signings (and Forrester) desperate to get a game and show what they can do. We are going to beat them, then its the 2nd round and we've won 3 out of 4 league games, we get drawn against a championship team and everyone wants to show what they can do against a higher league team. Same principle in FA Cup, no manager is going to put himself under pressure by losing in the 1st 2 rounds to Harrogate or Grimsby. Mistake we made in my opinion was playing such strong teams in the fa cup and EFL trophy in January. Up till then we rotated the squad nicely, then all of a sudden started putting out pretty much full strength teams when we had a congested league fixture list too. Funnily enough injuries then started to happen.... At that stage they were both lesser objectives than the league and we should have rotated in the same way as we did earlier in the season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyrotten Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 1 hour ago, Stig said: Mistake we made in my opinion was playing such strong teams in the fa cup and EFL trophy in January. Up till then we rotated the squad nicely, then all of a sudden started putting out pretty much full strength teams when we had a congested league fixture list too. Funnily enough injuries then started to happen.... At that stage they were both lesser objectives than the league and we should have rotated in the same way as we did earlier in the season I can understand playing a strong lineup at Luton, it could have been a potential thrashing if we'd left out our best players given that Luton hardly made any changes. But the dead rubber at Stockport then home to Port Vale, virtually full strength teams, these were well before Christmas. Its been a relentless season but we don't seem to help ourselves given how often we get injuries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walkden White Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 (edited) 2 hours ago, mickbrown said: Just seen their first. Keeper doesn’t come rushing out, he doesn’t score. Simple as that. I have watched both their goals again now a number of times and whilst I get and accept that point, both strikes by their man were top notch. I am not convinced any of our strikers (either those in the team or those injured) would score from any of those 2 opportunities. As someone mentioned most goals come from one mistake or another but credit to their man for taking advantage. Edited March 10 by Walkden White Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 43 minutes ago, Walkden White said: I have watched both their goals again now a number of times and whilst I get and accept that point, both strikes by their man were top notch. I am not convinced any of our strikers (either those in the team or those injured) would score from any of those 2 opportunities. As someone mentioned most goals come from one mistake or another but credit to their man for taking advantage. He looked handy that Cox. Left Santos for dead on the second and he’s no slouch. My frustration is we play exactly the same defensively regardless of the abilities of Baxter v Coleman. Why it’s not addressed is beyond me. For that reason I blame the whole team and Evatt for the equaliser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 I think Bod has proven he shouldn't be anywhere near this level of football over the last few weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 10 hours ago, tomski said: It’s a fair shout on the injuries. That said questions want to be asked if we think 55-60 mins is an acceptable expectation. I’ve no idea if he played more mins at Brizzle but I’d guess yes based on his stats. Don't all our starting strikers get brought off after an hour? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 23 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: Don't all our starting strikers get brought off after an hour? Yeah which suggests no differentiation in opposition or where we are in the game. I find it odd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted March 10 Site Supporter Share Posted March 10 14 minutes ago, tomski said: Yeah which suggests no differentiation in opposition or where we are in the game. I find it odd. I do too. Of course if you're using them to work like fuckery and press etc, then they may get knackered, but not all games are the same yet the subs are very formulaic. Opposition managers can therefore also plan accordingly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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