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chelsea

 

or sooner

 

in fact, west ham/stoke when he brought knight back and stuck with him despite wheater looking miles better

 

Yep when he bought Knight in just before the semi after Wheater had been good

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"although i didnt want him, because i didnt think he'd actually proved himself.

i had no idea he was so bereft of idea's and totally and utterly stubborn about the idea's he did have."

Homer sums up my initial thoughts.

 

It's been a gradual process, but started by the Stoke semi-final debacle and the bringing back of Knight.

 

The last 5 matches of the season started the red lights flashing madly.

 

Home to Norwich & Sunderland when we were getting the big teams out of the way and needed to pick up home points.

 

Final straw, without a doubt, was home to Wigan and a monumental cock-up.

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Wembley. Arrogantly and naively assumed Stoke would enter into a nice tippy tappy football match because it was there, so picked completely the wrong team and totally ill prepared them for Stoke turning up and being themselves.

Newcastle home was this season's day of confirmation, tactical naivety in the extreme, causing us to snatch defeat from the jaws of a likely 1-0 victory

 

What he just said; The Newcastle game when we were in control he took off Muamba & replaced him with Eagles. Well the rest is history!!!!

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An alternative view:

 

Which I understand will get slated because I am maybe more patient, naive, hopeful with blind faith I really don't know anymore! Anyway I will offer it nevertheless

 

I was really pleased we got him but never hailed him as a messiah as I was well aware this would set him up to fail, as is happening. He was and still is tactically naive and I am unsure if he is learning any lessons. I still give him leniency because of the horrific adversity which he has faced this season (I sometimes wonder whether Mourinhio would have managed to keep this group of wounded, relatively low quality squad up in the prem) but the poor decision making, tactical blunders still happen. I have been patient and to a certain extent still am, because there are some good qualities (no doubt the majority disagree)but imo his man management is good, he responds well to the media, he is a motivator, his philosophy on how the game is played and how to treat players and fans is great. Others have witnessed differently, but I have heard that he is a fantastic coach. ALso I believe longevity with a manager more often than not is a better recipe for success than chopping and changing. I worry that if we did change, it wouldn't be for the better and I don't go along with the theory that anyone would do better. For me the biggest mistake he has made is not recognising, or not acting upon the fact, that he needs some backroom help, someone with prem experience. THis should have happened and hasn't. If it did I think it would benefit him and the squad and regardless of what division we are in next year it has to happen. My long standing patience is wearing thin, but I haven't given up on him yet, especially with the most important game in over a decade hanging over us.

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he has always been shit, even the only month when he won barclays manager of the month november 2010.

 

we were lucky to get a draw against blackpool, (their shit finishing)

 

newcastle shot themselves in the foot,( 2 pens and a sending off)

 

did our best to throw a 3 goal lead away at wolves.

 

in the first half of that season it was only late goals in home games that kept us up there not , brazilian style football.

 

his signings in general have been gash

 

as is his stupidness in not changing tactics (unless it's the wrong ones)

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chelsea

 

or sooner

 

in fact, west ham/stoke when he brought knight back and stuck with him despite wheater looking miles better

 

 

Fuckin spot on, and resting robinson for it too wtf was all that about

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Came away from Wembley utterley confused as to how he could play 442 which was in reality 424 given the way our wingers were ignoring their defensive duties. But It was Wigan at home after Xmas when it dawned on me that not only was he completely tactically inept but he was stubborn with it. Most of his signings were not up to life in the premier league. Given that we already had some poor players from the previous regime and our best two players injured, this compounded a grim situation. Only Norwich and Swansea struggling with QPR which most expected could have papered over the cracks.

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Chelsea home.

 

It was like watching a toddler colouring in. All that was missing was him sat there with his tongue sticking out the corner of his mouth.

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Playing Zat Knight, dropping Muamba were two of the most idiotic things ive ever seen. After Stoke it was staring me in the face but the Wigan home game this season where he dropped Muamba when we were on a good run just confirmed to me that guy has his head so far up his arse he could tickle his own lungs with his tongue.

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The Elmander as central midfielder in a Wembley semi-final masterstroke will be hard to beat in the Owen Coyle book of shit decisions.

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The Elmander as central midfielder in a Wembley semi-final masterstroke will be hard to beat in the Owen Coyle book of shit decisions.

 

I remember a regular on here opining that Elmander might be the best midfielder at the club after the stroll v West Ham prior to the semi final.

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Chelsea at home. The first and only time I have left a match early, let alone at half time.

 

Almost cost me my relationship too. Never trusted him since

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Was more than happy with his first six months

 

Was a touch concerned when I first heard about his training sessions being purely kick abouts and skills, remember telling Smiffs & HW about this in the exec suite - that was at the Spurs 4-2 and with the month that followed it was soon forgotten about

 

Was gutted about wembley but put it down to one of those things what with Holden being out and the run in that season was just a FA cup hangover or something

 

Been some shocking performances this season but what did it for me was not so much the line up and personnel of Wigan at home, but his defence of it when he said sonething like "well that line up beat them away (4 months previously) so it wasn't daft to pick it"

 

I used to use similar reasoning on championship manager, back in 94, when the game didn't involve training and stuff like that, you just picked the team based on stats and who you liked

 

That's when the penny dropped

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More of a gradual process than an exact moment.

The shambles at Wembley v Stoke.

The spineless performances against Blackburn and Blackpool away late last season.

 

... and then Sunderland at home this season when he chased a game that we were competitive in at 0-0 and ended up losing. A story that has repeated several times since.

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Wigan at home finally snapped me he had 3 chances to put FM on to stop Wigan playing and failed, I could not sit still in my seat I was pacing up and down the concourse in a rage never ever been so angry with any manager than that day it still makes me shudder they beat us that day and a large proportion of that was Coyles doing.

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