Kevin Davies

[chief wiggum]

He signed on 23 Jul-03, so no it's not 5 days.

 

Sorry about that fact.

 

He didn't sign a 10 year contract on that day though...?

[HazzyinBolton]

There are a few separate issues here.

 

Dougie is the team manager & if he wants to let SKD go that's his right. I happen to think we should have offered him a 1yr playing deal on reduced wages with some coaching responsibilities thrown in.

 

He's not been the 90 min answer for some time now, but if you're 2-1 up with 20 mins to go & need an experienced head to defend corners, hold the ball up upfront, win free kicks & fight for everything then he's still more than good enough IMO.

 

Loyalty in football is bullshit. If we hadn't paid him what he wanted he'd have fucked off long ago, if he'd have been shit the club would have sold him & if he'd have been a world beater he'd have been off to a bigger club for more wages in a heartbeat.

 

Davies has known for a bit he's not getting a new contract.

 

He's UEFA B qualified with recent playing experience - why wouldn't we want him as part of our academy coaching set up. We should be taking a leaf out of united's book here & keeping players of his quality & experience in our set up.

 

The handling of his departure/testimonial/birthday has been a PR disaster whatever the rights & wrongs of it. Gartside's responsibility.

 

He shouldn't have to apply for a testimonial - he should be given one, as long as 100% of the proceeds go to charity. A chance for fans to appreciate him one last time & for him to thank the fans for his support. He's earned £10m+ in the last 10 yrs, probably nearer £20m - a fund raiser for him is a joke.

 

His Mrs' twitter comments are irrelevant.

 

I'm going on a bit now.

 

[no balls]

He didn't sign a 10 year contract on that day though...?

 

He signed for us on that date, so it's 10 years to that date.

[chief wiggum]

He signed for us on that date, so it's 10 years to that date.

 

I will absolutely take your word for it, but it doesn't necessarily mean his subsequent contracts ended on the same date. He did go on record today saying his current contract leaves him 5 days shy of his 10 years, he would be pretty foolish if it wasn't the case, bearing in mind he said that he had a chat with Dougie today who told him that. If he's telling porkies he will very soon made to look like a dick by the club and rightly so.

 

For the record, in Dougie I trust, if he wants to let Davies go for footballng reasons I have no issue with that. Just don't think it's being handled very well. Davies should have been offered an exit strategy which allows him to keep his dignity and leave as a legend, ie keep him til after the season and give him his testmonial (which let's be honest would be a charity do, he's not a bad bloke) or let him go on loan with him knowing that was on offer which makes it his call.

 

It's not his leaving I disagree with, I just think he should be given a 'bye bye and thanks for the memories' option. Which would not do the club any harm.

[chief wiggum]

There are a few separate issues here.

 

Dougie is the team manager & if he wants to let SKD go that's his right. I happen to think we should have offered him a 1yr playing deal on reduced wages with some coaching responsibilities thrown in.

 

He's not been the 90 min answer for some time now, but if you're 2-1 up with 20 mins to go & need an experienced head to defend corners, hold the ball up upfront, win free kicks & fight for everything then he's still more than good enough IMO.

 

Loyalty in football is bullshit. If we hadn't paid him what he wanted he'd have fucked off long ago, if he'd have been shit the club would have sold him & if he'd have been a world beater he'd have been off to a bigger club for more wages in a heartbeat.

 

Davies has known for a bit he's not getting a new contract.

 

He's UEFA B qualified with recent playing experience - why wouldn't we want him as part of our academy coaching set up. We should be taking a leaf out of united's book here & keeping players of his quality & experience in our set up.

 

The handling of his departure/testimonial/birthday has been a PR disaster whatever the rights & wrongs of it. Gartside's responsibility.

 

He shouldn't have to apply for a testimonial - he should be given one, as long as 100% of the proceeds go to charity. A chance for fans to appreciate him one last time & for him to thank the fans for his support. He's earned £10m+ in the last 10 yrs, probably nearer £20m - a fund raiser for him is a joke.

 

His Mrs' twitter comments are irrelevant.

 

I'm going on a bit now.

 

Pretty much what I'm trying to say

[no balls]

May 18, 2012, he signed a 1 year contract extension.

[Eddie]

Jesus , if you think sordell and c Davies are the answers to our prayers, then we are definitely in the mire

C Davies is on a par with that fat brazilian we had, worse

Can't work with his back to goal , no aerial ability at all, no pace, no awareness

If we keep him and lose SKD, then I seriously doubt DF's ability as a manager

 

 

Sordell is in and out, no consistency, confidence player, and not what I want as our main striker

Ngog works too hard chasing back, not a natural goal scorer , so where does that leave us

And for gods sake don't say Eaves......

 

Jesus christ, I don't know where to start with some of the shit in this thread but this seems as good as any.

 

You seem to have described the modern day 'SKD' when trying to describe Craig Davies.

 

Defenders must piss themselves when they now see K.Davies' name on the team sheet, he is now unfortunately completely fucking useless, whereas at one time they would be shaking in their boots.

 

As for his use in the last 20 minutes to see out a game which someone mentioned above, again that is also bollocks as he can't hold anything up, balls bounce off him, he doesn't win headers, he gives away free kicks and he doesn't have the legs to pressure and chase seemingly lost causes. All this does is culminates in giving possession back to the opposition and invites further pressure on the defence.

 

We were kind (stupid) to offer Davies a new deal when his old one ran out at the end of last season, it has been clear to see for a few years that his ability is rapidly declining and he is starting to drag the way we play down.

 

Why people think that he is owed a coaching role by us is also beyond me. Why does Dougie owe him anything? Where is this coaching space that he is too take? Who says he is a good coach? I want the best people here and not mates of the club, wasn't that the problem when Coyle was here?

 

Also if he was to be put in a coaching role and therefore continue to become even more 'part of the furniture' at the club, would that not mean that he would start to become even more influential than the manager? As soon as we lose a few games there'd be the same old twats shouting for him to become the manager.

 

As for the disrespect we have apparently shown him, all I've seen from the club is a statement from Freedman that explains the situation and explains that Davies has been told now so that he can work on finding a new club, thus helping him out and not leading him on. If anything IMO Davies has been the cunt in all this, what is the need to go come out in the national press and basically moan about it all. All it has done is cause trouble.

 

Players come to the ends of their contracts and leave clubs regularly, I don't understand why he thinks he has the right to be offered a new one.

 

I will forever be grateful for what Davies has done for us but this all seems a bit twattish to me.

 

I genuinely don't see what the club have done wrong here, its just another reason for the usuals to put a spin on it and slate the club.

[chief wiggum]

May 18, 2012, he signed a 1 year contract extension.

 

For exactly 12 months? If it's been a rolling year or several years since then he hasn't done his 10 years then?

 

I'm absolutely not arguing with you NB, I'm just going on what he said on the radio today? Is all.

 

He said it, he specifically said that the terms of his contract meant that it ran out 5 days before he was entitled to a testmonial, and that's what Dougie told him. That is what he is saying, not me.

 

Not that it matters to me as it goes, I still think he should be given the option of seeing the season out and having a send off.

[DazBob]

There are a few separate issues here.

 

Dougie is the team manager & if he wants to let SKD go that's his right. I happen to think we should have offered him a 1yr playing deal on reduced wages with some coaching responsibilities.

 

So, in your own words, even though Dougie wants to let him go, you think we should keep him on?

 

Seeing as Dougie us our manager, should we not put sentiment to one side and put our trust in him?

[chief wiggum]

Jesus christ, I don't know where to start with some of the shit in this thread but this seems as good as any.

 

You seem to have described the modern day 'SKD' when trying to describe Craig Davies.

 

Defenders must piss themselves when they now see K.Davies' name on the team sheet, he is now unfortunately completely fucking useless, whereas at one time they would be shaking in their boots.

 

As for his use in the last 20 minutes to see out a game which someone mentioned above, again that is also bollocks as he can't hold anything up, balls bounce off him, he doesn't win headers, he gives away free kicks and he doesn't have the legs to pressure and chase seemingly lost causes. All this does is culminates in giving possession back to the opposition and invites further pressure on the defence.

 

We were kind (stupid) to offer Davies a new deal when his old one ran out at the end of last season, it has been clear to see for a few years that his ability is rapidly declining and he is starting to drag the way we play down.

 

Why people think that he is owed a coaching role by us is also beyond me. Why does Dougie owe him anything? Where is this coaching space that he is too take? Who says he is a good coach? I want the best people here and not mates of the club, wasn't that the problem when Coyle was here?

 

Also if he was to be put in a coaching role and therefore continue to become even more 'part of the furniture' at the club, would that not mean that he would start to become even more influential than the manager? As soon as we lose a few games there'd be the same old twats shouting for him to become the manager.

 

As for the disrespect we have apparently shown him, all I've seen from the club is a statement from Freedman that explains the situation and explains that Davies has been told now so that he can work on finding a new club, thus helping him out and not leading him on. If anything IMO Davies has been the cunt in all this, what is the need to go come out in the national press and basically moan about it all. All it has done is cause trouble.

 

Players come to the ends of their contracts and leave clubs regularly, I don't understand why he thinks he has the right to be offered a new one.

 

I will forever be grateful for what Davies has done for us but this all seems a bit twattish to me.

 

I genuinely don't see what the club have done wrong here, its just another reason for the usuals to put a spin on it and slate the club.

 

The usuals.....? Or those that listen to some fucking balloon in the NSL who stands at the back, slagging him off and booing his every touch. At one point against Brighton, he took the ball with his back to goal, the resident idiot said 'you can't even control the ball Davies' at the very moment he laid it off beautifully to Eagles who put in a great cross. He's the past not he future, but I'd like him to see the season out, any team above us in the Champ would take him on loan, mark my words..

 

He deserves a bit of respect, is all I'm saying..

[chief wiggum]

Jesus christ, I don't know where to start with some of the shit in this thread but this seems as good as any.

 

You seem to have described the modern day 'SKD' when trying to describe Craig Davies.

 

Defenders must piss themselves when they now see K.Davies' name on the team sheet, he is now unfortunately completely fucking useless, whereas at one time they would be shaking in their boots.

 

As for his use in the last 20 minutes to see out a game which someone mentioned above, again that is also bollocks as he can't hold anything up, balls bounce off him, he doesn't win headers, he gives away free kicks and he doesn't have the legs to pressure and chase seemingly lost causes. All this does is culminates in giving possession back to the opposition and invites further pressure on the defence.

 

We were kind (stupid) to offer Davies a new deal when his old one ran out at the end of last season, it has been clear to see for a few years that his ability is rapidly declining and he is starting to drag the way we play down.

 

Why people think that he is owed a coaching role by us is also beyond me. Why does Dougie owe him anything? Where is this coaching space that he is too take? Who says he is a good coach? I want the best people here and not mates of the club, wasn't that the problem when Coyle was here?

 

Also if he was to be put in a coaching role and therefore continue to become even more 'part of the furniture' at the club, would that not mean that he would start to become even more influential than the manager? As soon as we lose a few games there'd be the same old twats shouting for him to become the manager.

 

As for the disrespect we have apparently shown him, all I've seen from the club is a statement from Freedman that explains the situation and explains that Davies has been told now so that he can work on finding a new club, thus helping him out and not leading him on. If anything IMO Davies has been the cunt in all this, what is the need to go come out in the national press and basically moan about it all. All it has done is cause trouble.

 

Players come to the ends of their contracts and leave clubs regularly, I don't understand why he thinks he has the right to be offered a new one.

 

I will forever be grateful for what Davies has done for us but this all seems a bit twattish to me.

 

I genuinely don't see what the club have done wrong here, its just another reason for the usuals to put a spin on it and slate the club.

 

And yes, I really hate the club, especially when I'm fighting my way from Leeds across the M62 for a midweek 'home' game.

[Eddie]

The usuals.....? Or those that listen to some fucking balloon in the NSL who stands at the back, slagging him off and booing his every touch. At one point against Brighton, he took the ball with his back to goal, the resident idiot said 'you can't even control the ball Davies' at the very moment he laid it off beautifully to Eagles who put in a great cross. He's the past not he future, but I'd like him to see the season out, any team above us in the Champ would take him on loan, mark my words..

 

He deserves a bit of respect, is all I'm saying..

 

I agree he deserves respect. I wouldn't send him out on loan, i'd give him a testimonial regardless of the 5 day thing being mentioned and I'd make a bit of a deal about him leaving on the last day of the season to thank him for everything he has done for the club.

 

Personally on his effectiveness in games I don't agree, i'm sure there are 1 or 2 moments that could be pointed out, but generally for me it is like playing with 1 less player on the pitch nowadays.

 

I was more alluding to the people that are disgusted with the club that he isn't being offered a coaching role, or that he is definitely not getting a testimonial when the club haven't mentioned anything. I just don't see what they have done wrong from what they have said today, whereas Davies who has spoke out nationally and not in a positive manner with only 8 games left in the season has done no wrong in the same peoples minds.

[Eddie]

And yes, I really hate the club, especially when I'm fighting my way from Leeds across the M62 for a midweek 'home' game.

 

Never mentioned you, and never said anyone 'hates' the club. Don't worry about twisting my words though

[Casino]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/transfers-boltons-kevin-davies-leave-1786939

 

Pisses on a few chips......if true

I suspect it is

[Eddie]

http://www.mirror.co...s-leave-1786939

 

Pisses on a few chips......if true

I suspect it is

 

Some people are now scratching around wondering which is the next angle they can take to bash the club over this.

[Traf]

 

 

Some people are now scratching around wondering which is the next angle they can take to bash the club over this.

 

They should have given him a new 4 yr deal on £40k a week as a thank you for his service.

[bolton va va]

I understand the decision to release Kevin Davies with Dougie wanting to rebuild the squad with younger players...,if possible i'd have liked him to stay on in some role, but again i can accept Dougie's decision. I expect a few more will be leaving in the summer.

 

What I don't understand are the anti Kevin Davies sentiments but it's not surprising when players like McGinlay & Nolan also suffered from the boo boys during their final playing days at Bolton.

For me. I've nothing but respect for Super Kevin Davies & would put him on the same level as Nat, Byrom, Frankie Worthy & McGinlay for what he has done for Bolton.

[chief wiggum]

Never mentioned you, and never said anyone 'hates' the club. Don't worry about twisting my words though

 

Sorry, you said slate not hate. I do neither. You replied to my original post, I assumed you were referring to me as one of the 'usuals' who slate the club, I don't, if I took it the wrong way apologies.

 

And I agree with you, he shouldn't necessarly get a coaching role, my only issue is letting him go with his head held high. And as for Casino's link, as of 5.00pm, according to Davies he wasn't getting a testimonial, if he now is then good, he should. Don't see how an online article 'pisses on anybody's chips' when it was posted at 22.29 though, when Davies' interview happened over 5 hours previously...

[Youri McAnespie]

http://www.mirror.co...s-leave-1786939

 

Pisses on a few chips......if true

I suspect it is

 

I see Owen's sniffing around an Arsenal 'starlet' an' all - Obi wan Afobi or sommat...

[DomRepWanderer]

Again sentiment is playing a big part in folks feelings, keeping him on in a coaching role is a wage we can do without, giving him a conract to appear as an impact sub is just silly, yes he has and will always be an icon, but his age has caught up with him.

 

BWFC owe him nothing, he has had a good living out of us for near on 10 years, and if Dougie thinks his time is up then all and sundrie should accept that, we have all contributed to his wages, having said all that I would'nt be against him having a testimonial.

[bolty58]

Doesn't seem that long ago where blokes on here were so full of praise for SKD that comments like 'I'd let him sleep with my missus' were being bandied about.

 

In my view, he is either the best value signing we have ever made or very close to it.

 

No doubt in my mind that his effort and loyalty should be rewarded with some kind of recognition (testimonial or whatever).

[Flannel Truscott]

Just listened to the interview, almost wish I hadn't.

 

Love KD, he's been a HUGE player for us for a long time,and as Bolty points out, cost us no fee.

 

He obviously loves the club. He repeatedly stresses how happy he and his family have been here. Stresses how that's why he never moved away when he had the chance.

 

So then why repeatedly mention why he wants a testimonial as a 'thank you for what I've done for the club' and 'appreciate what I've done' but not thank the club for the opportunity to stay so long, and for providing the environment for him and his family to be so happy? Not to mention the 20/30 grand a week for 10 years? Lets have some fucking balance here, it works both ways.

[Ratwhite]

Doesn't seem that long ago where blokes on here were so full of praise for SKD that comments like 'I'd let him sleep with my missus' were being bandied about.

 

In my view, he is either the best value signing we have ever made or very close to it.

 

No doubt in my mind that his effort and loyalty should be rewarded with some kind of recognition (testimonial or whatever).

 

This, with bells.

 

Got to trust DF.

[Big E]

 

 

Well he went on record today saying that was the case, again, I am not party to his contract negotiations. Just think we should be at least seen to be doing the right thing. Calls his bluff if it isn't true. And tbf if it wasn't the case I suspect the club might have mentioned it today.

 

You're being very hard-faced about this E, first time I met you was after the game in Munich... Davies was part of the best times we have had in living memory, he deserves some respect for that IMHO, let him go, no problem, but let's not make ourselves look twats.

 

I am indeed. I don't believe everything he has said to be true. All contracts expire 30th June despite what champ manager says.

 

If he wasn't scheduled to be on talk sport yesterday I don't understand why he went on.

 

I agree as I have said all yesterday and will do today. He is a legend and been great for us. He has brought great memories.

[Ani]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/transfers-boltons-kevin-davies-leave-1786939

 

Pisses on a few chips......if true

I suspect it is

 

No one is coming out of this well.

 

Skd was daft to go national radio and say things about testimonial

 

The club do not need to be getting involved in releasing tit for tat stories.

 

This thread should be twice as long as it is but full of people saying thanks for the memories but time to move on.