Maggie Tate Posted October 13, 2015 Posted October 13, 2015 Kin ell E quite a bold statement. You and I both know the actions of your 18 year old son is pretty much out of your control. True But can't it be argued that parents maybe haven't done the best job with an 18 yr old who thinks drug driving is a good idea? Can't just be about what happens when they're 18. Quote
kent_white Posted October 13, 2015 Posted October 13, 2015 a friend of mine was killed in an accident caused by an old boy. he instantly handed in his license. we need to get strict measures in at both ends of the age range. anyone under 21 - restrictions new test at 65 /70 no way MR58 should be allowed to drive without a re-test I've always thought a limitation on the power of a car for under 21's seemed sensible, in return for a more reasonable insurance rate. Quote
Site Supporter RONNIE PHILLIPS Posted October 13, 2015 Site Supporter Posted October 13, 2015 True But can't it be argued that parents maybe haven't done the best job with an 18 yr old who thinks drug driving is a good idea? Can' t just be about what happens when they're 18. Our young un lost his license through drink driving & we did everything we could to keep him on the straight & narrow, I even reported him to the police because I knew he was doing it... banned for 12 months, if I'd had my way it would have been 5yrs minimum. Quote
Site Supporter superjohnmcginlay Posted October 13, 2015 Author Site Supporter Posted October 13, 2015 Our young un lost his license through drink driving & we did everything we could to keep him on the straight & narrow, I even reported him to the police because I knew he was doing it... banned for 12 months, if I'd had my way it would have been 5yrs minimum. How did he take it that you had reported to him? How many other parents would do that? Quote
Site Supporter RONNIE PHILLIPS Posted October 13, 2015 Site Supporter Posted October 13, 2015 Not sure he actually believed me at the time, he ended up crashing the car ( no-one hurt thankfully) & losing his license. Thankfully he's now addressing his alcohol issues. Quote
Site Supporter Spider Posted October 13, 2015 Site Supporter Posted October 13, 2015 Not sure he actually believed me at the time, he ended up crashing the car ( no-one hurt thankfully) & losing his license. Thankfully he's now addressing his alcohol issues. must be heart wrenching to have to shop your own kid, but fair play to you. It's a shame more parents won't do the same. Hope everything works out for you. Quote
Site Supporter RONNIE PHILLIPS Posted October 13, 2015 Site Supporter Posted October 13, 2015 Just told the police to watch out for him & as I told the lad, it was like him running round with a loaded gun & it's usually innocent people who end up getting hurt. He now respects my & his mother's stance, he's also been told he can't register a car whilst he lives at home until he's done at least 12 months dry. Quote
Smiffs Posted October 13, 2015 Posted October 13, 2015 Our young un lost his license through drink driving & we did everything we could to keep him on the straight & narrow, I even reported him to the police because I knew he was doing it... banned for 12 months, if I'd had my way it would have been 5yrs minimum. Fair fucks to you. As for the pair that died, thank fuck they killed themselves and nobody else. Zero sympathy. Quote
freds dad Posted October 13, 2015 Posted October 13, 2015 Would a life ban from driving deter people who drive under the influence of drinks or drugs? Quote
kent_white Posted October 13, 2015 Posted October 13, 2015 I must admit in my younger years I've been a passenger many times in cars being driven by people who were high on pills or whatever coming back from clubs. Seems inconceivable now - but at the time we didn't think we were doing any harm (clearly we were or had the potential to be). I suppose you could argue the case that we'd be driving as carefully as possible trying not to get pulled - but in retrospect the fact remains we were putting peoples lives at risk. I can also remember being in an old Ford Cortina and doing 90 down Smithills Dean Rd, again as a passenger. Basically at that age you're nuts. Should have to have the smallest engine imaginable and be fitted with a tracker till you've been driving 3 years. Quote
Site Supporter RONNIE PHILLIPS Posted October 13, 2015 Site Supporter Posted October 13, 2015 My lad had a tracker fitted, didn't make an ounce of difference once he went near a drink. Quote
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted October 13, 2015 Site Supporter Posted October 13, 2015 I must admit in my younger years I've been a passenger many times in cars being driven by people who were high on pills or whatever coming back from clubs. Seems inconceivable now - but at the time we didn't think we were doing any harm (clearly we were or had the potential to be). I suppose you could argue the case that we'd be driving as carefully as possible trying not to get pulled - but in retrospect the fact remains we were putting peoples lives at risk. I can also remember being in an old Ford Cortina and doing 90 down Smithills Dean Rd, again as a passenger. Basically at that age you're nuts. Should have to have the smallest engine imaginable and be fitted with a tracker till you've been driving 3 years. This cortina- was it a beige estate? Quote
kent_white Posted October 13, 2015 Posted October 13, 2015 (edited) This cortina- was it a beige estate? I don't remember mate - I don't recall it being an estate, but it was 20 odd years ago. Why do you ask? Edited October 13, 2015 by kent_white Quote
little whitt Posted October 13, 2015 Posted October 13, 2015 I must admit in my younger years I've been a passenger many times in cars being driven by people who were high on pills or whatever coming back from clubs. Seems inconceivable now - but at the time we didn't think we were doing any harm (clearly we were or had the potential to be). I suppose you could argue the case that we'd be driving as carefully as possible trying not to get pulled - but in retrospect the fact remains we were putting peoples lives at risk. I can also remember being in an old Ford Cortina and doing 90 down Smithills Dean Rd, again as a passenger. Basically at that age you're nuts. Should have to have the smallest engine imaginable and be fitted with a tracker till you've been driving 3 years. ha ha ha i had a Cortina Crusader and also went down Smithills Dean Rd at 80 but turned my lights off till the then bird said she would give me a Blow Job Quote
captainmed Posted October 14, 2015 Posted October 14, 2015 Scum. Thankfully both dead and didn't kill or hurt anyone else. Quote
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted October 14, 2015 Site Supporter Posted October 14, 2015 I don't remember mate - I don't recall it being an estate, but it was 20 odd years ago. Why do you ask? Touched one hundred in a beige cortina going down smithills dean road. Bloke driving looked that scene from planes, trains and automobiles when they almost get wiped out by the trucks. Such was the inadequacy of the car we were still doing sixty when we entered the thirty zone. Seemed to take for ever to stop. Never been so scared in a car. Looking back we were lucky, one of the lads from sixth form wasn't, and was killed around the same time just round the corner. Seriously influences your driving style, happy to trundle around steadily getting decent fuel economy. Quote
kent_white Posted October 14, 2015 Posted October 14, 2015 Touched one hundred in a beige cortina going down smithills dean road. Bloke driving looked that scene from planes, trains and automobiles when they almost get wiped out by the trucks. Such was the inadequacy of the car we were still doing sixty when we entered the thirty zone. Seemed to take for ever to stop. Never been so scared in a car. Looking back we were lucky, one of the lads from sixth form wasn't, and was killed around the same time just round the corner. Seriously influences your driving style, happy to trundle around steadily getting decent fuel economy. Sounds like we had a very similar experience - mine was circa 1995/1996? Maybe it was the same lad - but there were a lot of Cortinas back then! I drive quite conservatively as well. Never had a speeding ticket - occasionally do 80 when it's quiet on a motorway but that's about it for my boy racing :-) Quote
Sweep Posted October 14, 2015 Posted October 14, 2015 I find as I've got older, I've become obsessed with my mpg, I'm always checking it and get the right hump if it drops below 50 Quote
Big City Girl Posted October 14, 2015 Posted October 14, 2015 I find as I've got older, I've become obsessed with my mpg, I'm always checking it and get the right hump if it drops below 50 Ha ha, me too! I remember years ago when we'd go raving in Blackpool, we'd often get lifts back from people who were out of it. They wouldn't drink as they could get pulled for that!! Quote
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted October 14, 2015 Site Supporter Posted October 14, 2015 Sounds like we had a very similar experience - mine was circa 1995/1996? Maybe it was the same lad - but there were a lot of Cortinas back then! I drive quite conservatively as well. Never had a speeding ticket - occasionally do 80 when it's quiet on a motorway but that's about it for my boy racing :-) Ten years earlier, 85-87. Quote
Site Supporter fatolive Posted October 14, 2015 Site Supporter Posted October 14, 2015 Touched one hundred in a beige cortina going down smithills dean road. Bloke driving looked that scene from planes, trains and automobiles when they almost get wiped out by the trucks. Such was the inadequacy of the car we were still doing sixty when we entered the thirty zone. Seemed to take for ever to stop. Never been so scared in a car. Looking back we were lucky, one of the lads from sixth form wasn't, and was killed around the same time just round the corner. Seriously influences your driving style, happy to trundle around steadily getting decent fuel economy. Same, think everyone has been a dick at some stage or another in a car, well, a lot of people anyway, some get unlucky,someget lucky and learn, some get lucky and think they can get away with it all the time until the time they don't.I took my mums Maestro (!) over Darcy lever brow too fast (about 60mph too fast) lost control and ended up 4 wheels up in the trees sideways with a branch through the passenger window. Passenger and me un hurt along with rear passengers no scratches, 1ft to the left and it would have been into a lamp column and probably dead, seconds later and the girl walking across the hacken lane junction would have been in the path and I would have killed her. There's still a tree with a bend in it growing there if you look, very sobering and I grew up there and then ,in terms of driving in any case, that was 1987, still shudder going over that hill too. I was sober and not under any influences other than being a dick head showing off Quote
Site Supporter Winchester White Posted October 14, 2015 Site Supporter Posted October 14, 2015 I wrapped mums car round a tree about 2 months after passing my test. Luckily I wasn't going fast but skidded on a slippy bend and the car was a shed and worth nowt. Made me much better driver did that event. I also once got in my car absolutely bladdered, drove about 20 yards round the corner and came to my senses and stopped and walked home. Felt like a complete cunt for ages after getting my car the day, especially after seeing it looking abandoned on the side of the road. Really made me think and still to this day I don't understand what on earth possessed me to do something I have always disagreed with so much. Quote
gonzo Posted October 14, 2015 Posted October 14, 2015 Having lived above various public houses for approaching 9 years now I can confirm drink driving is not uncommon. Its fucking rife. Quote
Site Supporter superjohnmcginlay Posted October 14, 2015 Author Site Supporter Posted October 14, 2015 What is classed as drink driving then. One Two Three Five and drive? I know we've had the debate before about how many we've had before getting behind the wheel. I've knocked just having one on the head now. I get freaked out the day after a few and being over the limit. Plus the older I'm getting the more aware of how mortal we are and don't take the same chances. Quote
frank_spencer Posted October 15, 2015 Posted October 15, 2015 If I'm driving on a night out then occasionally I'll have a pint to start the night then it's fizzy pop til home time. Had 2 pints at lunch once and driving home at 6 I was petrified. Never again Quote
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