barrycowdrill Posted May 30, 2024 Posted May 30, 2024 1 minute ago, Johnnyrotten said: In January we already had Williams, Ashworth and Iredale and still signed Ogbeta, I don't think Iredale is considered as a starter for LWB any more, the 4th option seems to be JDC to switch sides. Iredale CB or on the bench. On Cogley, not sure how its unfair? Toal, Santos, Charles, Sheehan etc play week after week, Cogley another of the automatic picks. Granted we have other automatic picks but there’s times, some more often then others, where they’re hooked after 60-70 mins or rested. Or get breaks through other means. Injuries / suspensions etc. Cogley didn’t have those blessings / curses and IIRC played every minute of every league game? Unfair may be the wrong word so let’s maybe say unrealistic? That he could go through the same work load again… Quote
Johnnyrotten Posted May 30, 2024 Posted May 30, 2024 2 hours ago, Whitesince63 said: It’s definitely not a negative and for me it’s experience we definitely need but Derbys experience was proven quality players whereas Rotherham’s in my opinion aren’t. Fair enough, I wouldn't know either way TBH, although I would have thought JCH is as proven as any striker in the division. Quote
Dr. Feelgood Posted May 30, 2024 Posted May 30, 2024 2 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Tyler Bindon from reading linked… 250k. 6'2" centre half. Only 19 but pkayed 40 matches last season, 2 goals, 1 assist & 4 yellow cards ... introduce him to George. New Zealander. Otherwise, never heard of him. Quote
gonzo Posted May 30, 2024 Posted May 30, 2024 Can he stand on the ball for extended periods of time though? Quote
Dr. Feelgood Posted May 30, 2024 Posted May 30, 2024 I'd like to see Caleb back. That deoends on WBA's needs. We were unlucky that he got injured. Johnson, it will be interesting to see how well he returns. Quote
Rizlar Posted May 30, 2024 Posted May 30, 2024 2 minutes ago, gonzo said: Can he stand on the ball for extended periods of time though? Pass sideways don’t forget Quote
Dr. Feelgood Posted May 30, 2024 Posted May 30, 2024 2 minutes ago, gonzo said: Can he stand on the ball for extended periods of time though? Too busy passing it side to side & getting ot bavk ... and repeat.. Quote
Johnnyrotten Posted May 30, 2024 Posted May 30, 2024 2 minutes ago, barrycowdrill said: Granted we have other automatic picks but there’s times, some more often then others, where they’re hooked after 60-70 mins or rested. Or get breaks through other means. Injuries / suspensions etc. Cogley didn’t have those blessings / curses and IIRC played every minute of every league game? Unfair may be the wrong word so let’s maybe say unrealistic? That he could go through the same work load again… Fair enough, but he was picked every week last season when he could have arguably been rested and I expect the same to happen again - law of averages says he surely won't be as injury free as he was this season but likely to be first choice and IE doesn't rotate the defence much. Quote
Rizlar Posted May 30, 2024 Posted May 30, 2024 My main concern is midfield it needs strengthening. Quote
Johnnyrotten Posted May 30, 2024 Posted May 30, 2024 1 hour ago, green genie said: Can’t see this has a lot to do with Rooney, more the data driven recruitment process club employs to try and find bargains. I wasn't suggesting its Rooney's fault, its just a wierd stat. He wasn't at Brum during a transfer window if I'm not mistaken, and Derby had the transfer embargo while he was there I think. Quote
Johnnyrotten Posted May 30, 2024 Posted May 30, 2024 12 minutes ago, Dr. Feelgood said: I'd like to see Caleb back. That deoends on WBA's needs. We were unlucky that he got injured. Johnson, it will be interesting to see how well he returns. If we sign Caleb (or any other CB), that's 7 CBs for 3 positions. Santos and Toal aren't getting dropped realistically so its 5 CBs for 1 position, OK Iredale will miss out but still 4 CBs for 1 position, plus 1 on the bench and law of averages says 1 injured usually. But that's a big chunk of the squad when you throw in our 11 LWBs 😀 Quote
Johnnyrotten Posted May 30, 2024 Posted May 30, 2024 20 minutes ago, gonzo said: Can he stand on the ball for extended periods of time though? That can be trained. Toal came without that ability, naively passing it at pace, now he's starting to learn to keep hold of the ball without moving. Standing on it will come with experience, coaching and practise. Quote
Dimron Posted May 30, 2024 Posted May 30, 2024 24 minutes ago, gonzo said: Can he stand on the ball for extended periods of time though? If Gilks or the bloke in the suit near the tunnel can shout loud enough at him he won't need to stand on the friggin' thing as long Quote
Rizlar Posted May 30, 2024 Posted May 30, 2024 8 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said: That can be trained. Toal came without that ability, naively passing it at pace, now he's starting to learn to keep hold of the ball without moving. Standing on it will come with experience, coaching and practise. Is this plan b? Quote
Dr. Feelgood Posted May 30, 2024 Posted May 30, 2024 10 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said: If we sign Caleb (or any other CB), that's 7 CBs for 3 positions. Santos and Toal aren't getting dropped realistically so its 5 CBs for 1 position, OK Iredale will miss out but still 4 CBs for 1 position, plus 1 on the bench and law of averages says 1 injured usually. But that's a big chunk of the squad when you throw in our 11 LWBs 😀 If we thinking our defence needs upgrading a couple of these may miss out/exit. Quote
Dimron Posted May 30, 2024 Posted May 30, 2024 10 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said: That can be trained. Toal came without that ability, naively passing it at pace, now he's starting to learn to keep hold of the ball without moving. Standing on it will come with experience, coaching and practise. Is it true there is a lobotomy suite at Lostock where the new players are assimilated? Quote
tomski Posted May 30, 2024 Posted May 30, 2024 34 minutes ago, Dr. Feelgood said: I'd like to see Caleb back. That deoends on WBA's needs. We were unlucky that he got injured. Johnson, it will be interesting to see how well he returns. I think Taylor would of been good for us. Fairly sure it won’t happen though CBs I’d suggest is where we are most covered. Who knows if/who is offski Quote
paulhanley Posted May 30, 2024 Posted May 30, 2024 2 minutes ago, tomski said: I think Taylor would of been good for us. Fairly sure it won’t happen though CBs I’d suggest is where we are most covered. Who knows if/who is offski I think if we get a new CB it might release Jones/Iredale for full back duties on a far more regular basis. Quote
Zico Posted May 30, 2024 Posted May 30, 2024 49 minutes ago, Dr. Feelgood said: I'd like to see Caleb back. That deoends on WBA's needs. We were unlucky that he got injured. Johnson, it will be interesting to see how well he returns. Be a loan at best I reckon Wba mate reckons he's highly rated and was expected to start more last season but other more experienced defenders were playing well which kept him out No idea how much his injury may have set him back regards getting in their first team for next season though Quote
tomski Posted May 30, 2024 Posted May 30, 2024 15 minutes ago, paulhanley said: I think if we get a new CB it might release Jones/Iredale for full back duties on a far more regular basis. Yeah crossed my mind but still leaves toal santos johnstone iredale Jones Forrester tou may be right if that moves to 4 and I also suspect at least someone will go for a cash raise or career change Quote
gonzo Posted May 30, 2024 Posted May 30, 2024 I've had an idea for the new season that involves Santos running with the ball at a packed midfield and splitting them up that way. Like a marauding beast through a pack of feeding gazelles. Run Rico. Run. Quote
little whitt Posted May 30, 2024 Posted May 30, 2024 1 hour ago, Dr. Feelgood said: I'd like to see Caleb back. That deoends on WBA's needs. We were unlucky that he got injured. Johnson, it will be interesting to see how well he returns. HE said on Inster Thanks for the Opprtunity Good Luck in the Future BWFC so dout he is coming back Quote
Burndens Bogs Posted May 30, 2024 Posted May 30, 2024 1 hour ago, Dr. Feelgood said: I'd like to see Caleb back. That deoends on WBA's needs. We were unlucky that he got injured. Johnson, it will be interesting to see how well he returns. From what little we saw of him, can’t say he stood out from any of our other central defenders really. Quote
tomski Posted May 30, 2024 Posted May 30, 2024 2 minutes ago, Burndens Bogs said: From what little we saw of him, can’t say he stood out from any of our other central defenders really. He played about 80 mins Quote
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