Transfer Gossip

[Zog1]

1 hour ago, waffer cup 07 said:

He went on loan to Rovers last season. He was nicknamed NEP, no end product. He's not ready for the Premiership. If we go up he could stay.

Sometimes i can see this.

It's not an ability problem it's decision making problem, i'm sure it'll get better the more he plays.

But we also can't lie and say this hasn't been an issue a few times this season, it was a bigger issue when we were missing a proper left winger. 

[DirtySanchez]

1 hour ago, bwfc6ix said:

He's quite a shy lad. Think going to another country where English isn't the first language could hamper his progress in my opinion. 

Had a chat with him and Forino on the train heading into London after the Cardiff away game 

He doesn't say much but as you say, I'd put that down to him just being shy and not anything to do with me!

Forino was very chatty and a nice bloke

[Tonge moor green jacket]

ACD.

Not a chance he's here next season if we don't go up.

He may stay at Brighton, but I reckon he'd want some guarantees.

If it's stay, but go on loan again, then I suspect he'd ask to go elsewhere. 

In which case, as a championship club, we would have as good a chance of signing him, as anyone outside the prem, and I don't see another Premier league team buying him and thrusting him in as a regular starter.

 

[Stig]

1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

ACD.

Not a chance he's here next season if we don't go up.

He may stay at Brighton, but I reckon he'd want some guarantees.

If it's stay, but go on loan again, then I suspect he'd ask to go elsewhere. 

In which case, as a championship club, we would have as good a chance of signing him, as anyone outside the prem, and I don't see another Premier league team buying him and thrusting him in as a regular starter.

 

We wouldn't have the budget to buy him against one of the teams with parachute payments. Don't like the idea of him being against us for Burnley or Wolves next season though

Edited 21 hours ago by Stig

[DirtySanchez]

1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

ACD.

Not a chance he's here next season if we don't go up.

He may stay at Brighton, but I reckon he'd want some guarantees.

If it's stay, but go on loan again, then I suspect he'd ask to go elsewhere. 

In which case, as a championship club, we would have as good a chance of signing him, as anyone outside the prem, and I don't see another Premier league team buying him and thrusting him in as a regular starter.

 

Chelsea might give him an 8 year contract and they like nicking players from Brighton

[bolton va va]

ACD has 2 years left on his contract, so if Brighton were thinking of selling him, they woudn't bother trying to extend it.

We've no chance of being able to afford to sign him anyway but if we do go up there might be a chance of another season's loan.....I don't think he's premier level yet & he does seem to be happy here.

The problem could be if Brighton qualify for Europe & want to use squad players. 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Why couldn't we afford him?

He has only done well in league one so far.

We all feel he could do well further up now, but he didn't originally. 

Not a proven player at any level above league one.

[frank_spencer]

5 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Why couldn't we afford him?

He has only done well in league one so far.

We all feel he could do well further up now, but he didn't originally. 

Not a proven player at any level above league one.

Aye but given the money being thrown around I'd wager Brighton would want £5m+ at the very very lowest and every potential add on and clause in the book.

Well out of our price bracket.

[DirtySanchez]

2 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Why couldn't we afford him?

He has only done well in league one so far.

We all feel he could do well further up now, but he didn't originally. 

Not a proven player at any level above league one.

Brighton are offering him a new contract so they must see something especially as he has two years left on his current one

Probably with that contract will come higher wages 

Longer contract can mean higher transfer fee which could well price us out 

IF we get promoted and we try and buy him, its because we think he can cut it at championship level

What's to stop other richer championship clubs from thinking the same

[Tombwfc]

4 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Why couldn't we afford him?

He has only done well in league one so far.

We all feel he could do well further up now, but he didn't originally. 

Not a proven player at any level above league one.

 

He's a 20 year old English winger being hyped to the moon. It'll be £6m minimum - another part of squad building for Birmingham, Wrexham or the relegated teams, but for us that'd be the whole squad.

Unless they get a massive offer I think he'll be at Brighton for the whole of the summer and then either stay there or go out on loan at the last minute. We can live in hope but I wouldn't base our transfer strategy on it .

[frank_spencer]

5 hours ago, Johnnyrotten said:

That was the mistake Maghoma made (with hindsight) and Trafford, hanging around a squad where you know you're never going to be getting regular starts, or even sub appearances. 

Traf went straight to Burnley after us didn't he? Did well enough to earn a move back and then citeh signed the worlds best keeper not long after.

Maghoma got in the squad and then injured. My norridge supporting mate thinks he's the best thing since Jeremy Goss

[L/H White]

Brighton don't sell for peanuts 

Absolutely no chance 

Also, stay way clear of Kenny. Nailed on another to injury prone and will always be missing for spells, as much as I like him it would be a no from me

Edited 18 hours ago by L/H White

[ianofcleveleys]

4 hours ago, Tombwfc said:

 

He's a 20 year old English winger being hyped to the moon. It'll be £6m minimum - another part of squad building for Birmingham, Wrexham or the relegated teams, but for us that'd be the whole squad.

Unless they get a massive offer I think he'll be at Brighton for the whole of the summer and then either stay there or go out on loan at the last minute. We can live in hope but I wouldn't base our transfer strategy on it .

The only way we'd get him back is if we go up and they fancy loaning him to Champ again to see if he cuts it a couple of years on. Some talk though of clubs in Germany and France being interested, Brighton not averse to sending them further afield for good experiences. 

[Krimzon]

6 hours ago, L/H White said:

Brighton don't sell for peanuts 

Absolutely no chance 

Also, stay way clear of Kenny. Nailed on another to injury prone and will always be missing for spells, as much as I like him it would be a no from me

Really ? I think Kenny looks the real deal and even with his injury record Id want him for up to £2 m . 

[masi 51]

3 hours ago, Krimzon said:

Really ? I think Kenny looks the real deal and even with his injury record Id want him for up to £2 m . 

Now would be the perfect time to get Kenny.....Never going to get in Celtics team this pre-season and by the time he is fit he will be 5th or six choice and forgot about.......He has a good relationship with both SS/Harkin  and a cheeky 750k bid may get him even though its a good chance he does not start the season

Tolaj is interesting Rangers at £3m... is Kenny behind him???

[Krimzon]

21 minutes ago, masi 51 said:

Now would be the perfect time to get Kenny.....Never going to get in Celtics team this pre-season and by the time he is fit he will be 5th or six choice and forgot about.......He has a good relationship with both SS/Harkin  and a cheeky 750k bid may get him even though its a good chance he does not start the season

Tolaj is interesting Rangers at £3m... is Kenny behind him???

At the start of Kenny's loan I spoke to some Celtic lads who wanted £3m for him but said they thought he was worth £2m and add ons , obviously biased. 

Tolaj is probably a more proven goal scorer at a lower level-ish . Get them both for £5 m and thats a Blake/SJM/Walker type forward line . 

[Ani]

Talk of who we might sign and their contract situation is irrelevant if we do not get promoted. 
 

It is annoying to think we messed it up with Bradley and Trafford in the team, let’s not do it again with ACD. 

[Matt Lofthouse]

1 hour ago, masi 51 said:

Now would be the perfect time to get Kenny.....Never going to get in Celtics team this pre-season and by the time he is fit he will be 5th or six choice and forgot about.......He has a good relationship with both SS/Harkin  and a cheeky 750k bid may get him even though its a good chance he does not start the season

Tolaj is interesting Rangers at £3m... is Kenny behind him???

Read that as Toal at first 😆

[Krimzon]

2 hours ago, Ani said:

Talk of who we might sign and their contract situation is irrelevant if we do not get promoted. 
 

It is annoying to think we messed it up with Bradley and Trafford in the team, let’s not do it again with ACD. 

Not neccesarily . We stay down and I think both Burstow & Kenny would come if we can afford to sign them . 

We did mess it up but we couldnt have signed either one of them . 

[Ani]

15 minutes ago, Krimzon said:

Not neccesarily . We stay down and I think both Burstow & Kenny would come if we can afford to sign them . 

We did mess it up but we couldnt have signed either one of them . 

I never suggested we could have signed them, but looking back at how good those two were missing out was really poor. 

My point is that if we go up we are looking at virtually every area needing strengthening with significant upgrades. Whereas if we stay down the pot we have will be a lot smaller, as you say ‘if we can afford them’ personally if we go up I am not seeing Burstow as a starter especially if we sign Kenny. If we stay down do we spend potentially over £1m on Kenny ? If not Burstow can do a job. If we go up Kenny is much more likely, do we look to upgrade Burstow ? 

i might be deluded but if ACD signs an extension at Brighton maybe another year on loan in Championship, suits us and his development. No way he plays League One next season. ACD on the right and Dapo on the left 😳🙏👍?? 
 

Going up or staying down we will see plenty of coming and going in the summer, goal keeper, full backs , centre half , a captain, potentially need to find alternatives for ACD and Kenny. Midfield less of an issue but still could be improved. 

[gonzo]

We will have more money to spend if we go up.

We won't have as much if we stay down.

ITK YHIHF

[Wanderlust]

I feel that if we’ve been losing a lot of money - I think I read somewhere that our annual trading loss was in excess of £12million pa but I can’t verify that  - next season would likely be a period of consolidation with the minimum spending required to keep us up if promoted - or cutbacks if we don’t.

It underlines the importance of promotion. 

[Rival Son]

8 minutes ago, Wanderlust said:

I feel that if we’ve been losing a lot of money - I think I read somewhere that our annual trading loss was in excess of £12million pa but I can’t verify that  - next season would likely be a period of consolidation with the minimum spending required to keep us up if promoted - or cutbacks if we don’t.

It underlines the importance of promotion. 

Really? I can believe accumulated debt might be in that region, but I’m struggling to see how we lose that much money in a year.

If we assume the average salary is £5k per week and we have 28 people on that salary, it only comes to £7 million per annum. This must be, far and away, our biggest cost item.

Without searching for accounts, £12 million might be our annual turnover. However, there are a host of income streams - 20k+ crowds, TV money, etc. - to offset those costs.

Perhaps, an accountant can verify?

Edited 2 hours ago by Rival Son

[Stig]

5 minutes ago, Rival Son said:

Really? I can believe accumulated debt might be in that region, but I’m struggling to see how we lose that much money in a year.

If we assume the average salary is £5k per week and we have 28 people on that salary, it only comes to £7 million per annum. This must be, far and away, our biggest cost item.

Without searching for accounts, £12 million might be our annual turnover. However, there are a host of income streams - 20k+ crowds, TV money, etc. - to offset those costs.

Perhaps, an accountant can verify?

https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/25985742.bolton-wanderers-announce-13-91m-loss-2024-25-season/

 

£13.9m one year loss actually. Promotion is essential 

[woolli]

16 hours ago, L/H White said:

Brighton don't sell for peanuts 

Absolutely no chance 

Also, stay way clear of Kenny. Nailed on another to injury prone and will always be missing for spells, as much as I like him it would be a no from me

Injury prone? You can say that about most of our team!