Lt. Aldo Raine Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 1 hour ago, royal white said: Poor Matthew had a stinker yesterday. The tweets he posted with photographs of the thief in the hope it helps catch him ate superb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 4 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: The tweets he posted with photographs of the thief in the hope it helps catch him ate superb “Nicked it out of my hand and zipped off at high speed before I saw him” A few tweets later ”He looks white to me” 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 (edited) 2 hours ago, only1swanny said: People longing for the rose tinted spectacled view of Britian before the onset of improved communication. Reality is much different. Just re-read "My pal Spodger", having read it as a kid, based in Bolton in the 1920's. These people long for these times but reading the book as an adult, shows how bad things really were and people didn't know any better. Granted there js no racism in the book (which was written in 1960's), as there wasn't really anyone to be racists towards. An era where kids had to go to work in dangerous cotton mills because there weren't enough workers, and the vast majority of houses from then have been pulled down as part of the Slums act. My post had nothing to do with the lack of black people on the photo, there were plenty of black folk back in the 60/70s it was a comment about simpler times when people were nicer to each other, proper communities where you knew everybody on your street top to bottom by name, nobody gave a shit about colour, race, religion, gay or straight or if you were richer or poorer than your neighbour (and even better no one mentioned it for brownie points to make them look better) and if you were a little bit better off your mum would send you round to give the 2 brothers 3 doors down some left over tea to help them out. The comments from the usuals just shows how shit things are now. Edited March 16 by Mounts Kipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted March 16 Site Supporter Share Posted March 16 6 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: My post had nothing to do with the lack of black people on the photo, there were plenty of black folk back in the 60/70s it was a comment about simpler times when people were nicer to each other, proper communities where you knew everybody on your street top to bottom by name, nobody gave a shit about colour, race, religion, gay or straight or if you were richer or poorer than your neighbour (and even better no one mentioned it for brownie points to make them look better) and if you were a little bit better off your mum would send you round to give the 2 brothers 3 doors down some left over tea to help them out. The comments from the usuals just shows how shit things are now. I wish I’d been brought up in a Catherine Cookson novel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted March 16 Site Supporter Share Posted March 16 9 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: My post had nothing to do with the lack of black people on the photo, there were plenty of black folk back in the 60/70s it was a comment about simpler times when people were nicer to each other, proper communities where you knew everybody on your street top to bottom by name, nobody gave a shit about colour, race, religion, gay or straight or if you were richer or poorer than your neighbour (and even better no one mentioned it for brownie points to make them look better) and if you were a little bit better off your mum would send you round to give the 2 brothers 3 doors down some left over tea to help them out. The comments from the usuals just shows how shit things are now. 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderer1984 Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 12 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: My post had nothing to do with the lack of black people on the photo, there were plenty of black folk back in the 60/70s it was a comment about simpler times when people were nicer to each other, proper communities where you knew everybody on your street top to bottom by name, nobody gave a shit about colour, race, religion, gay or straight or if you were richer or poorer than your neighbour (and even better no one mentioned it for brownie points to make them look better) and if you were a little bit better off your mum would send you round to give the 2 brothers 3 doors down some left over tea to help them out. The comments from the usuals just shows how shit things are now. The ones that care about colour, gender etc are the ones that live for the divide. Growing up in a fairly diverse area I honestly can't remember witnessing any forms of violence against "minorities" ... The odd name calling yeah. Maybe folk like @Cheese witnessed incidents most days whilst in his youth. Maybe folk like him took part in ridiculing those that they're now keen to defend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 1 hour ago, Mounts Kipper said: My post had nothing to do with the lack of black people on the photo, there were plenty of black folk back in the 60/70s it was a comment about simpler times when people were nicer to each other, proper communities where you knew everybody on your street top to bottom by name, nobody gave a shit about colour, race, religion, gay or straight or if you were richer or poorer than your neighbour (and even better no one mentioned it for brownie points to make them look better) and if you were a little bit better off your mum would send you round to give the 2 brothers 3 doors down some left over tea to help them out. The comments from the usuals just shows how shit things are now. I agree with a lot of this Mounts. I think we have lost some of that sense of community. I only remember the early 80's and a lot of this still rings true. Popping next door to borrow some milk or some sugar is one I remember. And taking a proper plate to the chippy is another one! 😁 Where I grew up (Longfield Road up Hulton Lane) I felt like I knew everyone for about 3 streets on every side. All the kids at least. Some happy, nostalgic memories of a different time. We're human beings. We're social animals who thrive off that sense of community. It's certainly easier nowadays. Whether it's as good for the soul I'd question? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 4 minutes ago, kent_white said: I agree with a lot of this Mounts. I think we have lost some of that sense of community. I only remember the early 80's and a lot of this still rings true. Popping next door to borrow some milk or some sugar is one I remember. And taking a proper plate to the chippy is another one! 😁 Where I grew up (Longfield Road up Hulton Lane) I felt like I knew everyone for about 3 streets on every side. All the kids at least. Some happy, nostalgic memories of a different time. We're human beings. We're social animals who thrive off that sense of community. It's certainly easier nowadays. Whether it's as good for the soul I'd question? Glad you experienced it, was 100% better times, sad for those who didn’t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter only1swanny Posted March 16 Site Supporter Share Posted March 16 1 hour ago, Mounts Kipper said: My post had nothing to do with the lack of black people on the photo, there were plenty of black folk back in the 60/70s it was a comment about simpler times when people were nicer to each other, proper communities where you knew everybody on your street top to bottom by name, nobody gave a shit about colour, race, religion, gay or straight or if you were richer or poorer than your neighbour (and even better no one mentioned it for brownie points to make them look better) and if you were a little bit better off your mum would send you round to give the 2 brothers 3 doors down some left over tea to help them out. The comments from the usuals just shows how shit things are now. Sorry, misread what i meant, I mentioned that there was no racism as there was nobody to be racist to, the migration hadnt happened by then, but things were a lot worse. In the book it mentions one migrant, which is an italian bloke who threatens them with a knife, threatens to cut their eyes out if if they stop kicking the ball against his fence. We needed the migrants and invited them over, in turn allowed things like kids getting an education and women rightly so, being able to go to work. One of the highlights of his youth he mentions is being given a pear, which was an absolute luxury, but some people look back on these times with the pre mentioned rose tinted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted March 16 Members Share Posted March 16 21 hours ago, Casino said: i see theyre getting an above average pay rise made me think, why do you need an MP to complain to about individual local issues lets have a good old rethink 50/100 MPs, nowt to do with local issues, just running the country we could call them a cabinet or something like that lets be honest, this tory cabinet isnt just full of folk on the take, theyre also, generally, numb as piss Would you do that job for that money? I fucking wouldn't. The media would be all over my cod liver oil fetish in a flash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted March 16 Members Share Posted March 16 21 hours ago, Winchester White said: A fan of PR all of a sudden. To be fair FPTP is a shit way of doing things. From whence did thou dredge up that this is 'all of a sudden'. Goes back to UKIP and the injustice they suffered in the light of the votes they garnered. Still, seems we agree that FPTP should be shelved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted March 16 Members Share Posted March 16 18 hours ago, Winchester White said: I have to agree it is childish but ffs just call an election. We will only be lumbered with over a decade of cuts that will take another decade, at least, to put right. You will be lumbered by more than that pal. Socialism comes with a high price - no pandemics, wars anything. In peace time. More for the minorities, loons and screwballs and less for the taxpayer who is stung with paying for it all whilst believing (in many deluded cases) that this is the party of the working man looking after 'our' interests. The opposite always turns out to be the truth. I will sit back and watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Wanderer Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 2 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said: My post had nothing to do with the lack of black people on the photo, there were plenty of black folk back in the 60/70s it was a comment about simpler times when people were nicer to each other, proper communities where you knew everybody on your street top to bottom by name, nobody gave a shit about colour, race, religion, gay or straight or if you were richer or poorer than your neighbour (and even better no one mentioned it for brownie points to make them look better) and if you were a little bit better off your mum would send you round to give the 2 brothers 3 doors down some left over tea to help them out. The comments from the usuals just shows how shit things are now. You’re spot on about the loss of community Mounts 👍 The way we see the elderly these days is shameful and you rarely see kids out playing much anymore. People are much more likely to rob off others and vandalise when they have no connection to their community. Loneliness is an unrecognised disease & an epidemic in my opinion. Your point that “nobody gave a shit about colour, race, religion, gay or straight or if you were richer or poorer than your neighbour” is pure fantasy mate. Gay people & immigrants experienced some horrific things. We’ve come leaps & bounds in that regards. My issue is that people like Lee Anderson & many others, wrong blame immigration for this loss of community. They harp on about wanting “their” country back from foreigners . They completely ignore factors like the death of local shops, chronic underfunding of youth & community centres, towns dominated by busy roads & huge shops, with little safe space for play etc. Mass imported consumer goods & the death of many local industries that tied communities together. The list could go on and on. Funnily enough, many immigrant communities actually have better community connections than White British folk do now. Brought together often by their church or Mosque. It’s just a shame that so many bigots lay the blame on immigration. There never was a golden age. But we certainly need to do more to bring back community ties. And stop wasting time & public money blaming immigrants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted March 16 Members Share Posted March 16 15 hours ago, Gonk said: Super Agent? 💥🌶️🪥💣 Back from the edge of the abyss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 4 minutes ago, London Wanderer said: Funnily enough, many immigrant communities actually have better community connections than White British folk do now. I agree with this as well and have been saying it for years. People don't like to hear it - but some of the immigrant communities I see around me feel more like the Bolton I remember of old. Wanderers is one of the last White British working class community institutions in the town. And even that has been sanitised. We don't do church anymore. Pub and club culture has died a death. Most of us do well to even have a relationship with our next door neighbours. It's an unhappy place to live in general. I've lived in places that are relatively impoverished but where people seem happier because of social ties and a sense of community. I wonder if we've gone too far to ever really get it back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 4 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said: My post had nothing to do with the lack of black people on the photo, there were plenty of black folk back in the 60/70s it was a comment about simpler times when people were nicer to each other, proper communities where you knew everybody on your street top to bottom by name, nobody gave a shit about colour, race, religion, gay or straight or if you were richer or poorer than your neighbour It was still illegal to be a bummer until about 1970 want it, so I presume some folk still gave a shit. I agree, in general about communities though. I guess I'm lucky where I live, as its a small village, and everybody seems to know everybody else, and they're is a fair bit of community spirit. Just a few miles away in some of the larger towns though it's very different Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 1 hour ago, kent_white said: I agree with this as well and have been saying it for years. People don't like to hear it - but some of the immigrant communities I see around me feel more like the Bolton I remember of old. Wanderers is one of the last White British working class community institutions in the town. And even that has been sanitised. We don't do church anymore. Pub and club culture has died a death. Most of us do well to even have a relationship with our next door neighbours. It's an unhappy place to live in general. I've lived in places that are relatively impoverished but where people seem happier because of social ties and a sense of community. I wonder if we've gone too far to ever really get it back? Nowt like that where I live. I know everybody on my street by name. There’s a WhatsApp group that folk use to lend stuff that kids have forgotten for exams, first dibs on furniture that’s getting chucked etc etc. During the lockdown we all sat in the street 2m apart having a couple of beers every Friday. All in all it’s a top place to live. Maybe you just need to move? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 4 minutes ago, mickbrown said: Nowt like that where I live. I know everybody on my street by name. There’s a WhatsApp group that folk use to lend stuff that kids have forgotten for exams, first dibs on furniture that’s getting chucked etc etc. During the lockdown we all sat in the street 2m apart having a couple of beers every Friday. All in all it’s a top place to live. Maybe you just need to move? Maybe? I'd say that's the exception rather than the rule though. Maybe I've just been unlucky. What area are you in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 3 minutes ago, kent_white said: Maybe? I'd say that's the exception rather than the rule though. Maybe I've just been unlucky. What area are you in? It’s not Bolton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted March 16 Site Supporter Share Posted March 16 A community is what you make it. Doubt any of these daft old folk yearning for the close-knit environment of their childhoods have bothered trying to recreate it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 15 minutes ago, mickbrown said: It’s not Bolton Ah OK. I suppose I was specifically talking about Bolton. Can't vouch for anywhere I haven't lived. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_spencer Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Individualism favoured by your libertarian types and fueled by Thatcher/Regan era politics has done more damage to the feeling of community than any number of immigrants. There's more of a connection amongst folk in any of the multi cultural areas I've lived and worked in than what's currently about in the white middle class suburban area I grew up in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobyBrno Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 10 hours ago, royal white said: “Nicked it out of my hand and zipped off at high speed before I saw him” A few tweets later ”He looks white to me” 😂 Never heard of the guy before but some of his comments and the replies are hilarious. Anyone who has 15 min to spare should look through his timeline since his phone was nicked. When a Woke Bloke is confronted with reality. 😅 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted March 16 Site Supporter Share Posted March 16 7 hours ago, bolty58 said: Would you do that job for that money? I fucking wouldn't. The media would be all over my cod liver oil fetish in a flash. They're not getting an above average rise neither. Above the current inflation figure, but below where it was. Last average wage rise figures I saw were around 7% a few months back, and a quick check shows still above 6%. I mentioned that I was reading "Eyes and Ears" the other day- obviously he has his own slant, but the general appraisal of mps isn't one of approval, but it does describe the ridiculous attitude of society and social media etc and there are a couple of paragraphs where he essentially describes his own murder. Chilling stuff, and the hairs on my neck came up. Folk will always moan about their pay, behaviour etc, but it has become a poisoned chalice and as you say, it's a wonder anyone wants to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: They're not getting an above average rise neither. Above the current inflation figure, but below where it was. Last average wage rise figures I saw were around 7% a few months back, and a quick check shows still above 6%. I mentioned that I was reading "Eyes and Ears" the other day- obviously he has his own slant, but the general appraisal of mps isn't one of approval, but it does describe the ridiculous attitude of society and social media etc and there are a couple of paragraphs where he essentially describes his own murder. Chilling stuff, and the hairs on my neck came up. Folk will always moan about their pay, behaviour etc, but it has become a poisoned chalice and as you say, it's a wonder anyone wants to do it. That prick Jonathan Gullis was a teacher when he was elected in 2019. Now he’s worth a couple of million. That's why these fuckers want to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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