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5 minutes ago, Jol_BWFC said:

I watched the Boris documentary the other day. They mentioned on it that David Cameron openly admitted he chose 2016 for the Brexit vote because he thought it was the optimum time to minimise the impact on his legacy as PM.

Apart from the fact the result had the exact opposite effect, it shows that MPs will use something that massive simply as a chess piece for personal gain.

Same with tax cuts in an election year, or Sadiq Khan finding money to freeze tube fares in the year of a mayoral vote. They don’t care as much about people’s finances two years before an election, but suddenly when it’s round the corner they will make large policy shifts for personal gain.

Cameron also thought he could shut the right wing of the party up, he was told by many leaders it was a huge gamble, but he was hopped up on the win over Scottish independence. It was arrogance that brought him, and the country, down. Also stupidly gave his MPs free votes.

The funding of the tube fares is slightly different and was on the slate for a while, to be fair (fare?)

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1 hour ago, Traf said:

Labour will, unfortunately, be judged on their first term back in power, when they won't have had to undo even a fraction of the shit the Tories will leave behind.

The incumbents are a bit like the lad at work who has handed his notice in, but they're making him come in each day to see the time out. He's doing the bare minimum, causing as much shit as he can and nicking everything he thinks he can get with. I remember sitting listening to Clubcall (£1+ per minute) and racing lines all day most days when I was seeing a notice period out many years ago.

It’s like a merry go round of shite and excuses 

 

https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/2009/oct/06/kenneth-clarke-tories-inherit-mess

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Oh sorry, I forgot, aside from the gloating, you'll get the 'its all the same' mob once its been shown that their visionary proclaimations were as daft as they were told at the time, as I say no nuaunce, no real understanding just ''I'm right and if I'm not the whole thing is wrong, not me''. Its the political equivalent to sulking and taking your ball home and as predictable as the sun rising.

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20 hours ago, BobyBrno said:

Blair’s government inherited a strong economy and still got stick. Mainly from his own party. That’s politics.

https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/2007/may/11/tonyblair.labour15

Sorry, just a quick  Fact Check on this. Firstly not sure from 'his own party' is referencing, is that the left of the party, in which case the progressive policies quitened them down - even at grassroots level, the militants were very quiet.

Yes there was a global upswing which most western economies benefitted from, and aside from being mired in sleaze and scandal (something the Conservatives never seem to learn from) John Major was a decent PM who was, funnily enough getting stick from his own party.

Finally Larry Elliot is the Guardian's economic editor and also a stauch brexiteer, and instead of looking at an article he wrote in 07 (where are people dragging this stuff up from - my eldest who is 18 this year was 8 months old when this was written) its probably more appropriate to have a read of this from the recent budget: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/mar/01/there-is-no-money-jeremy-hunt-own-note-chancellor-budget

What is more, after 14 years the Conservatives can no longer blame their difficulties on their legacy from Labour. Over the past 45 years, parties have enjoyed long interrupted periods in office: 18 years for the Tories between 1979 and 1997; 13 years for Labour from 1997 to 2010; 14 years for the Conservatives since then. After that length of time, governments are judged on their own record, and the one Hunt is defending is markedly worse than the one the Conservatives could boast of in 1997. Back then, growth was much stronger, debt was much lower, and the balance of payments was in surplus.

Similarly, in 2010 the economy seemed to be slowly on the mend after the shock caused by the near-collapse of the global banking system two years earlier. Economists say George Osborne – David Cameron’s chancellor – blundered when he imposed severe austerity measures on a still-fragile economy.

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5 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

Insane

 

The one who 'baptised' him and the idiot(s) who accepted this as a green light to allow him to stay in the UK must be very proud of themselves. Culpable in my opinion. Make the cunts pay damages to those disfigured.

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I've been on a bit of a medical adventure of late, and I'd like to walk some of the Brexit hardcore anti-immigration lot around.

My family and I over the past two weeks have seen doctors, dentists and mental health specialist galore, and we've been treated by British Asians, Nigerians (the delightfully named Chatwell who worn some amazingly gopping slip on shoes - wear do they by them from?) my lovely dentist from Brazil and the dental assistant and hygenist from Poland, been greeted at the blood clinic by a volunteer called Asif who showed my to my cubicle and encountered the first British nurse I'd seen (very nice lady) Jamicans and finally a nice matron who was from Japan (she was interested in me getting her tickets for the Yamato Drummers...)

Anywhose - I know we get told the NHS would be on its knees without immigration, but I honestly didn't realise who is filling the positions and to what extent.

Coming over here, fixing our bodies, minds and teeth - the fucking cheek! 

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25 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

 

Anywhose - I know we get told the NHS would be on its knees without immigration, but I honestly didn't realise who is filling the positions and to what extent.

Coming over here, fixing our bodies, minds and teeth - the fucking cheek! 

bollocks, we just need to train our own (or something like that)

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1 hour ago, Not in Crawley said:

I've been on a bit of a medical adventure of late, and I'd like to walk some of the Brexit hardcore anti-immigration lot around.

My family and I over the past two weeks have seen doctors, dentists and mental health specialist galore, and we've been treated by British Asians, Nigerians (the delightfully named Chatwell who worn some amazingly gopping slip on shoes - wear do they by them from?) my lovely dentist from Brazil and the dental assistant and hygenist from Poland, been greeted at the blood clinic by a volunteer called Asif who showed my to my cubicle and encountered the first British nurse I'd seen (very nice lady) Jamicans and finally a nice matron who was from Japan (she was interested in me getting her tickets for the Yamato Drummers...)

Anywhose - I know we get told the NHS would be on its knees without immigration, but I honestly didn't realise who is filling the positions and to what extent.

Coming over here, fixing our bodies, minds and teeth - the fucking cheek! 

a brexiteer said

 

yeah, but if we didn't have all them muzzies thered be more spaces for us whiteys to get fixed

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7 minutes ago, Casino said:

a brexiteer said

 

yeah, but if we didn't have all them muzzies thered be more spaces for us whiteys to get fixed

On the flipside the 24 hours I sepnt in A&E all there was were white folks, a black family whose dad was being treated and someone who was possibly from Thailand, either way he didn't look well.

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19 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

Don't go paddling in The Croal - worst polluted river in the UK. In fact don't go paddling anywhere in the North of England.

Levelling Up? Aye right.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/ng-interactive/2024/mar/27/englands-sewage-crisis-how-polluted-is-your-local-river-and-which-regions-are-worst-hit

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58 minutes ago, Casino said:

a brexiteer said

 

yeah, but if we didn't have all them muzzies thered be more spaces for us whiteys to get fixed

I’ve also had to spend a bit of time in a&e and on the wards with family and the reality seemed very different. 
 

A&E waiting room was 90% white folk and a good 50% of them were off their tits on drugs and/or alcohol. 

On the wards afterwards my relative was in a room with 3 other white blokes. 

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24 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

I’ve also had to spend a bit of time in a&e and on the wards with family and the reality seemed very different. 
 

A&E waiting room was 90% white folk and a good 50% of them were off their tits on drugs and/or alcohol. 

On the wards afterwards my relative was in a room with 3 other white blokes. 

There were loads on Saturday night who were nodding off, totally fucked, and drunk fellas giving nurses grief.

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The state of our rivers are a fucking embarrassment. Privatising water has been a disaster. Where is the competition to keep prices low and quality high? No investment, just stripping money and now we are supposed to pay more to clean up their lack of investment.

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25 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

The state of our rivers are a fucking embarrassment. Privatising water has been a disaster. Where is the competition to keep prices low and quality high? No investment, just stripping money and now we are supposed to pay more to clean up their lack of investment.

Won't somebody think of the Executive Bonuses!?

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even wheezer on LBC told us the winning cox from this weeks boat race aint getting chucked in the thames as its riddled with something, possibly ecoli

so the croal is up there with the shitty thames

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52 minutes ago, Casino said:

even wheezer on LBC told us the winning cox from this weeks boat race aint getting chucked in the thames as its riddled with something, possibly ecoli

so the croal is up there with the shitty thames

Levelling up in action

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