L/H White Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 (edited) Wilshere would, or should, have been behind Shelvey anyway. I just can't understand why he's not in the squad. He's got a range of passing like no one else in the squad and would have offered a completely different dimension if needed. If we are in a game and we need someone dropping balls in behind the defence for the likes of Vardy to run onto, there'd have been no one better. I'm not saying he's better, but did you watch Derby v Fulham 1st leg? Tom Huddlestons range of passing is fucking insane. That mon has the full range Edited May 18, 2018 by L/H White Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 Wilshere would, or should, have been behind Shelvey anyway. I just can't understand why he's not in the squad. He's got a range of passing like no one else in the squad and would have offered a completely different dimension if needed. If we are in a game and we need someone dropping balls in behind the defence for the likes of Vardy to run onto, there'd have been no one better. We just don’t value players that are comfortable on the ball in this country. Has been our problem since time began and will be our problem till the sun falls out of the sky. We wasted the best player with the ball at his feet in our generation in Paul Scholes. Micheal Carrick as well. He should’ve had a team built around him. I’m not a massive fan of Wilshire by any stretch but surely him or Shelvey need to be going to the World Cup. There should be more than Newcastle and Bournemouth players that can thread a ball to choose from as well, but that a wider issue we will never ever address as a nation. We will be hitting brick walls just like last time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 Shame Milner quit cracking player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 We just don’t value players that are comfortable on the ball in this country. Has been our problem since time began and will be our problem till the sun falls out of the sky. We wasted the best player with the ball at his feet in our generation in Paul Scholes. Micheal Carrick as well. He should’ve had a team built around him. I’m not a massive fan of Wilshire by any stretch but surely him or Shelvey need to be going to the World Cup. There should be more than Newcastle and Bournemouth players that can thread a ball to choose from as well, but that a wider issue we will never ever address as a nation. We will be hitting brick walls just like last time. There is more than one way of playing. Liverpool are in a champions league final without that type. We have a side full of pace so are set to hit teams on the counter. For the first two games we may need to replicate the Liverpool high press to win the ball back high up the pitch. Ideally we’d have our own De Bruyne to unlock defences but we simply do not possess anyone that good. So we need to build a team rather than rely on one player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 There is more than one way of playing. Liverpool are in a champions league final without that type. We have a side full of pace so are set to hit teams on the counter. For the first two games we may need to replicate the Liverpool high press to win the ball back high up the pitch. Ideally we’d have our own De Bruyne to unlock defences but we simply do not possess anyone that good. So we need to build a team rather than rely on one player. Replicate the same method as Liverpool and struggle to break teams like West Brom down line they do? Or like we tried and failed in against Iceland? All sounds great till you face a team with ten men behind the ball and same idea. You say there’s another way of playing? With that collection of midfielders, and that manager, no there isn’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_spencer Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 Against teams that come out and attack we can do well especially with Vardy and Sterling getting in behind. We don't have anyone with the ability to get through teams with 9/10 players behind the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted May 19, 2018 Moderators Share Posted May 19, 2018 Are folk serious about shelvey Be a red card fest with that dick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madthatter Posted May 19, 2018 Author Share Posted May 19, 2018 Against teams that come out and attack we can do well especially with Vardy and Sterling getting in behind. We don't have anyone with the ability to get through teams with 9/10 players behind the ball. To be fair though, if they're parking the bus I'm not seeing many teams threatening us that much. As I typed that I had Iceland flashbacks and so now feel my comment is bollocks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 Replicate the same method as Liverpool and struggle to break teams like West Brom down line they do? Or like we tried and failed in against Iceland? All sounds great till you face a team with ten men behind the ball and same idea. You say there’s another way of playing? With that collection of midfielders, and that manager, no there isn’t. We had a pedestrian team playing pedestrian football against Iceland. Southgate has picked pace and players with energy. The team has the ability to press win the ball high up the pitch and play that way. And then later in the tournament to hit teams on the break. We won’t win it, but we have no world class playmaker anyway. Neither do other sides. Make the best of it with what we’ve got rather than lamenting what we haven’t. Greece showed you can win things as a team if everyone pulls together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SalfordOriginal Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 Are folk serious about shelvey He is like the only bird in a pub.. you end up convincing yourself she is better than she is because it's your only choice...nthe "default" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L/H White Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 He is like the only bird in a pub.. you end up convincing yourself she is better than she is because it's your only choice...nthe "default" Correct He's fucking shite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madthatter Posted May 20, 2018 Author Share Posted May 20, 2018 Correct He's fucking shite If the answer is Shelvey then the question is 'Why won't England win the World Cup?' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 Correct He's fucking shite Wouldn’t get in any top 5 team in Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 There is more than one way of playing. Liverpool are in a champions league final without that type. With an Egyptian, a Brazilian and a Sengalese banging them in for fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc505 Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 (edited) I see Belgium have left Nainggolan out of their squad. Top player him, was looking forward to watching him play. Edit - He has selected 4 goalkeepers though... Edited May 21, 2018 by Marc505 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Shame Milner quit cracking player Gonzo like this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L/H White Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 (edited) can't see past spain winning it tbh spain france final @ 20/1 is getting my £5 Edited May 21, 2018 by L/H White Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 I see Belgium have left Nainggolan out of their squad. Top player him, was looking forward to watching him play. Edit - He has selected 4 goalkeepers though... Martinez has picked that red shit bag that everyone was clamouring for England a while back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc505 Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Martinez has picked that red shit bag that everyone was clamouring for England a while back Janusaj? Had completely forgotten he existed till he showed up for Sociedad last night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didledee Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Nainggolan has a low rating card on the new FIFA WC mode and apparently he's not been doing well for Belgium, unlike his club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc505 Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Yerrwot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Nainggolan has a low rating card on the new FIFA WC mode Doesn't deserve to be picked then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didledee Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Doesn't deserve to be picked then Well FIFA WC ratings are supposed to reflect international performances, Nainggolan is only 81, but in real FIFA he is 86. Good for club, average for Belgium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Well FIFA WC ratings are supposed to reflect international performances, Nainggolan is only 81, but in real FIFA he is 86. Good for club, average for Belgium Is this linked to a computer game at all? It sounds like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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