Pompey

[Johnnyrotten]

38 minutes ago, Clarence Carter said:

They've won 1 of their last 6 games and sit in 20th. The fans are very vocal in wanting a change of manager (no jackett required) and they're bemoaning the style on football on offer.

Score first and the atmosphere will be toxic.

I don,t think Pompey fans do toxic.  Annoyingly supportive, in a happy clappy sort of way.  Like they turn up to sing songs rather than live through the ups and downs of the match that's going on.  Anyway hopefully their need to be up for the Southampton cup game will give them a bit of fatigue or minor injuries, as good a time to play them as any.

[radcliffe white]

Match tickets says no betting or alcohol in away end, Gay lords 

[DirtySanchez]

29 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said:

I don,t think Pompey fans do toxic.  Annoyingly supportive, in a happy clappy sort of way.  Like they turn up to sing songs rather than live through the ups and downs of the match that's going on.  Anyway hopefully their need to be up for the Southampton cup game will give them a bit of fatigue or minor injuries, as good a time to play them as any.

I bet they do toxic tomorrow night 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

1 minute ago, DirtySanchez said:

I bet they do toxic tomorrow night 

They were talking about this on talkshite. Concerns about subbed players having to walk past opposing fans, and not straight to bench like previously.

[DirtySanchez]

1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

They were talking about this on talkshite. Concerns about subbed players having to walk past opposing fans, and not straight to bench like previously.

Used to know a pompey fan 

Seemed to suggest the hatred more comes from them rather than from Southampton 

Sure there's probably Southampton fans who hate them but the ones more up for it are Portsmouth 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

8 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said:

Used to know a pompey fan 

Seemed to suggest the hatred more comes from them rather than from Southampton 

Sure there's probably Southampton fans who hate them but the ones more up for it are Portsmouth 

Any idea why it is so?

Derby matches are usually tense on both sides.

[SatanGreavsie]

7 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said:

Used to know a pompey fan 

Seemed to suggest the hatred more comes from them rather than from Southampton 

Sure there's probably Southampton fans who hate them but the ones more up for it are Portsmouth 

Lived in Soton for a year and half back in the early 90s. You could chat to them about football and they'd be the most mild mannered, fair enough lot - until the subject of Pompey came up. They'd transform into a bile-spewing rage, bit like the transformation scene in American Werewolf in London. Maybe they've mellowed since 😊

[MickyD]

1 minute ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Any idea why it is so?

Derby matches are usually tense on both sides.

 Heard it was something to do with Dockers strikes much like the Wigan and Leigh dislike was apparently to do with miners strike.

[Steejay]

16 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said:

Used to know a pompey fan 

Seemed to suggest the hatred more comes from them rather than from Southampton 

Sure there's probably Southampton fans who hate them but the ones more up for it are Portsmouth 

Fuck me, them Saints lads in Sheffield Tap were proper winding up for it.

They were saying that all the old school boys would be out for this one.

 

[miamiwhite]

11 minutes ago, MickyD said:

 Heard it was something to do with Dockers strikes much like the Wigan and Leigh dislike was apparently to do with miners strike.

Spot on Mick.

[bolton va va]

I thought it started from Royal Navy - Merchant Navy rivalry & that the strike theory was shown to be a myth ( like Blackburn- Burnley )

[Johnnyrotten]

41 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Any idea why it is so?

Derby matches are usually tense on both sides.

Everton hate Liverpool more than the other way round, City hate Utd more than other way round, Spurs always hated Arsenal more, may have changed a bit now.  Smaller club mentality. 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

If Roger is reading that, I would have thought Everton are the only ones smaller now.

[Zico]

1 hour ago, Johnnyrotten said:

Everton hate Liverpool more than the other way round, City hate Utd more than other way round, Spurs always hated Arsenal more, may have changed a bit now.  Smaller club mentality. 

Wigan, Bury and Tranmere all hate us more

Well

Bury used to 

 

[green genie]

On 23/09/2019 at 20:50, Johnnyrotten said:

Everton hate Liverpool more than the other way round, City hate Utd more than other way round, Spurs always hated Arsenal more, may have changed a bit now.  Smaller club mentality. 

Really, the bile and vitriol I see plastics from the 'istree clubs spouting at Citeh is unreal. Grown "men" in replica shirts (have to have latest with a name and correct badges to prove what a fan they are) snarling in the face of kids who dare wear the shirt of the most attractive football team the country has ever seen  at football training and in pubs .

Challenge them on why the support Liverpool and it's all 'istree mate. Ask where Littlewoods FC were before the Moore's used pools money to financially dope Div 2 Liverpool to Europe and not a clue

[enzo gambaro]

On 23/09/2019 at 20:05, SatanGreavsie said:

Maybe they've mellowed since 😊

They haven’t, it just doesn’t come very often outside Hants. 

[Big E]

On 23/09/2019 at 20:50, Johnnyrotten said:

Everton hate Liverpool more than the other way round, City hate Utd more than other way round, Spurs always hated Arsenal more, may have changed a bit now.  Smaller club mentality. 

Proper myth this. the hatred is equal both sides. the reds i know fucking hate everton and they really get under their skin 

[tomski]

On 23/09/2019 at 18:18, radcliffewhite1 said:

Match tickets says no betting or alcohol in away end, Gay lords 

I was thrown out of Portsmouth on my last visit but at least got to see Cahill late winner 

[Johnnyrotten]

4 hours ago, Big E said:

Proper myth this. the hatred is equal both sides. the reds i know fucking hate everton and they really get under their skin 

An acid test of how much fans want to win a particular game for me is whether they would sacrifice a different game for it.  If Everton could beat Liverpool they would take a defeat against anyone else a few days later and call it a great week.  If Liv beat EFC but lose to either Man U or Man C they'd probably say that was a bad week.  Clearly if Pompey had beaten Saints and lost to us it would still be a good week for them.  Some talk about when we play PNE its a derby but we all know its just another game to us and them, no priority with it at all other than getting a bigger crowd on.  A bit different for Blackburn for me, but not Blackpool.  Media like to build up derby rivalry but only the fans know when its real.

[MalcolmW]

On 23/09/2019 at 20:50, Johnnyrotten said:

Everton hate Liverpool more than the other way round, City hate Utd more than other way round, Spurs always hated Arsenal more, may have changed a bit now.  Smaller club mentality. 

The Spurs issue goes back to football resuming after the First World War.

The First Division was extended from 20 clubs to 22. In the last season before the war Spurs finished 20th and were relegated. 19th placed Chelsea were elected to one of the 2 extra places. Derby and PNE were promoted in the normal way, and Arsenal were elected to the last spare place despite having finished 6th in the Second Division.

[Zico]

2 hours ago, MalcolmW said:

The Spurs issue goes back to football resuming after the First World War.

The First Division was extended from 20 clubs to 22. In the last season before the war Spurs finished 20th and were relegated. 19th placed Chelsea were elected to one of the 2 extra places. Derby and PNE were promoted in the normal way, and Arsenal were elected to the last spare place despite having finished 6th in the Second Division.

Is it not more likely that they are neighbours and spurs are historically not as good?

The hate is always greater in the weaker rival 

[MalcolmW]

2 minutes ago, ZicoKelly said:

Is it not more likely that they are neighbours and spurs are historically not as good?

The hate is always greater in the weaker rival 

The closeness is obviously a factor. But the fact that Arsenal got a promotion they had not earned, while Spurs were relegated despite the division being expanded, was the root cause. (They then won the Second Division by a big margin.)

[whiteboy]

3 hours ago, tomski said:

I was thrown out of Portsmouth on my last visit

well deserved too 

[tomski]

Just now, whiteboy said:

well deserved too 

Haha good trip that mate

[barrycowdrill]

Chelsea & Spurs is an off the field issue