Coronavirus

[miamiwhite]

1 minute ago, Jol_BWFC said:

Yeah, its not good. They need to sort it and they need to sort it very quickly.

They certainly do. The ones my dad had are from Mayday, they're really struggling.

Really hope all goes well for your poor cousin 👍🙏

[Tombwfc]

26 minutes ago, Biggish Dave said:

Macron admitting France were under prepared and they’ve struggled getting PPE. 

I blame BoJo and the nasty Tories for their failures

 

Well if you believe our lot (and they were asked this today and yesterday), they're absolutely smashing it. 

Maybe that's part of the problem.

 

[mickbrown]

1 hour ago, Escobarp said:

Go back to the very early pages of this thread. I said this was man made and designed as some form of weapon. If it was it’s been highly fucking successful I would say. 

I was listening to some crackpot conspiracy podcast the other day. They reckon it ain’t a weaponised man made virus because the death rate is way too small. And these loons believe any old shite. 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

41 minutes ago, RoadRunnerFan said:

True, as long as we all know that Prince Charles, Tom Hanks and Kenny Dalglish are ok we'll be reet. 

Dunno why you're getting your knickers in such a twist. 

I initially explained that the BBC were giving coverage and offered a reason as to perhaps why they're not going into much detail as yet. For me that wasn't glossing over anything- the story will undoubtedly come out more fully.

Yet you seem to have interpreted it as some dig at you.

Feel free to do so, but I can assure you it wasn't.

For me, it doesn't matter what number the media announce and from where, it's become a bit too much like some ghoulish death off.

A bit more good news and some positive stories wouldn't go amiss.

For example, Chris Whitty stated an apparently quite accurate figure of 13.5% of care homes have confirmed cases of coronavirus.

Now, all things considered, I reckon the fact that 86.5% of care homes don't, is a pretty special effort on behalf of those care workers etc involved. Maybe that would have made a refreshing change.

[Biggish Dave]

Just now, Tombwfc said:

 

Well if you believe our lot (and they were asked this today and yesterday), they're absolutely smashing it. 

Maybe that's part of the problem.

 

Would labour have done much different? I don’t recall anything in their manifesto promising to stock up on PPE and ventilators in their manifesto. Hindsight is wonderful.

Things might have been even worse if they had got in - more staff, same eqpt. 

[Escobarp]

1 minute ago, mickbrown said:

I was listening to some crackpot conspiracy podcast the other day. They reckon it ain’t a weaponised man made virus because the death rate is way too small. And these loons believe any old shite. 

All depends what man makes something to achieve doesn’t it?

If it compared to a biological weapon of mass destruction then yeah it’s too lenient as a virus/weapon. But if it’s to achieve what it has as listed above then it’s pretty damn successful really

the truth will never be known though 

[Sweep]

1 hour ago, Mr Grey said:

What do we think of this, on first reading it does seem odd, conspiracy theory or is there some truth in this?

The coronavirus traveled all over the world from Wuhan China, but it did not reach Beijing or Shanghai or other major cities in China. Can anyone explain how is that possible?

There are so many questions, after all, where it all started, in China, the Chinese stock market did not collapse, but the American and European markets did, and when those markets collapsed, the Chinese bought a lot.

All roads lead back to China

1. They created a virus for which they already had an antidote.

2. They purposely spread the virus for financial gain.

3. There is a clear demonstration of efficiency to such an extent that they built hospitals in a few days. To build so many hospitals they had to be prepared with organized projects, for example, with the ordering of equipment, the hiring of labor, the water and sewerage network, the prefabricated building materials and the storage in an impressive volume.  Everything happened so fast that everyone was speechless.

4. They caused chaos in the world, beginning with Europe and the rest of the western worlds.

5. Quickly decimating the economies of dozens of countries.

6. Stop production and manufacturing lines in factories and primary production in dozens of countries.

7. Causing the stock markets to crash and then they bought stocks, bonds and companies at bargain prices.

8. They then quickly gained control of the epidemic in their country.  After all, they were ready and he was never really out of control.

9. In all this, they managed to lower the price of basic products, including the price of oil.

10. Now they are going back to mass production while the rest of the world is stopped.

Also note how quickly Chinese unions activated to "hoard" purchases of bus cargo to regional shopping centers across Australia, stripping our shelves of toilet paper and staple foods. 

It happened before most of us knew what was happening, even before we knew what the Coronavirus was.

 

The above does sound like the sort of thing that people see on FB and think is gospel.

Not reaching Shanghai? - how come at least one factory I deal with in that province had only just come out of lock down two weeks ago?

 

Still, it might all be correct, but if it is, I'm surprised that none of the big news agencies have picked up on it.......

[Tonge moor green jacket]

18 minutes ago, Morizio said:

and there was no gathering. Clearly. He also stated his reason for not opening the door. I think that’s reasonable. 
 

If the police enter, they need to do so with a power, not on a fishing expedition. 
 

A reasonable course of action for the police would be to listen at the door for such a gathering or even look through the windows. 
 

He was in on his own, that’s a fact. 
 

Cunt or not, the law is the law. 

They don't know there's no gathering until they've had a look though!

I suspect (from the bloke's comments) that he knew they were at his door. So it's possible that had anything been going on, everyone could have gone silent before they got there.

As you say, the law is the law, and currently that gives them authority to go in if they have reasonable suspicion. Whether folk are happy or not.

He could quite easily have prevented any of it by simply inviting in one of them to check, whilst the others stayed at the door.

If a team of officers arrive at my door tomorrow and say there's been a report of a gathering, I'll gladly stand well away while one has a mooch.

If she's got a good pair of norks, I might even make her a brew.

[Wanderlust]

1 hour ago, Mr Grey said:

What do we think of this, on first reading it does seem odd, conspiracy theory or is there some truth in this?

The coronavirus traveled all over the world from Wuhan China, but it did not reach Beijing or Shanghai or other major cities in China. Can anyone explain how is that possible?

There are so many questions, after all, where it all started, in China, the Chinese stock market did not collapse, but the American and European markets did, and when those markets collapsed, the Chinese bought a lot.

All roads lead back to China

1. They created a virus for which they already had an antidote.

2. They purposely spread the virus for financial gain.

3. There is a clear demonstration of efficiency to such an extent that they built hospitals in a few days. To build so many hospitals they had to be prepared with organized projects, for example, with the ordering of equipment, the hiring of labor, the water and sewerage network, the prefabricated building materials and the storage in an impressive volume.  Everything happened so fast that everyone was speechless.

4. They caused chaos in the world, beginning with Europe and the rest of the western worlds.

5. Quickly decimating the economies of dozens of countries.

6. Stop production and manufacturing lines in factories and primary production in dozens of countries.

7. Causing the stock markets to crash and then they bought stocks, bonds and companies at bargain prices.

8. They then quickly gained control of the epidemic in their country.  After all, they were ready and he was never really out of control.

9. In all this, they managed to lower the price of basic products, including the price of oil.

10. Now they are going back to mass production while the rest of the world is stopped.

Also note how quickly Chinese unions activated to "hoard" purchases of bus cargo to regional shopping centers across Australia, stripping our shelves of toilet paper and staple foods. 

It happened before most of us knew what was happening, even before we knew what the Coronavirus was.

It's about as plausible as the theory going around that the Americans manufactured it and the CIA planted it in China to f*** their economy as part of Trump's ongoing economic war with them -  but it backfired as the Chinese jumped on it and imposed the kind of dictatorial control over people's contact and movement that the soft Americans wouldn't be able to.

[miamiwhite]

1 minute ago, Mr Grey said:

I doubt its correct, but with all this time on our hands you read more and it gets you thinking. It's a funny world we live in today and nothing surprises me.

It certainly does mate. The likes of Sky and the BBC had given up on certain issues such as the Yellow Vest movement in Paris many months ago, yet send all available camera crews to camps in Calais as soon as one of them farts.

Same with the poor migrant kid who drowned on the beach the other year, that was global yet when the news came through that a smuggling gang had actually drowned him....well, you know the rest.

[Escobarp]

2 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

They don't know there's no gathering until they've had a look though!

I suspect (from the bloke's comments) that he knew they were at his door. So it's possible that had anything been going on, everyone could have gone silent before they got there.

As you say, the law is the law, and currently that gives them authority to go in if they have reasonable suspicion. Whether folk are happy or not.

He could quite easily have prevented any of it by simply inviting in one of them to check, whilst the others stayed at the door.

If a team of officers arrive at my door tomorrow and say there's been a report of a gathering, I'll gladly stand well away while one has a mooch.

If she's got a good pair of norks, I might even make her a brew.

If the police turned up at my door and wanted in they would need to show me that they had the correct powers to come in. Not for any other reason than if they’ve no right to be coming in they don’t come in. If they’ve a right to be there than as per the law I can’t stop it. 
 

I certainly wouldn’t be filming it mind. 

[Spider]

14 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Dunno why you're getting your knickers in such a twist. 

I initially explained that the BBC were giving coverage and offered a reason as to perhaps why they're not going into much detail as yet. For me that wasn't glossing over anything- the story will undoubtedly come out more fully.

Yet you seem to have interpreted it as some dig at you.

Feel free to do so, but I can assure you it wasn't.

For me, it doesn't matter what number the media announce and from where, it's become a bit too much like some ghoulish death off.

A bit more good news and some positive stories wouldn't go amiss.

For example, Chris Whitty stated an apparently quite accurate figure of 13.5% of care homes have confirmed cases of coronavirus.

Now, all things considered, I reckon the fact that 86.5% of care homes don't, is a pretty special effort on behalf of those care workers etc involved. Maybe that would have made a refreshing change.

I’m pretty sure he said they’d tested 13% of care homes. Could be wrong.

[RoadRunnerFan]

15 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Dunno why you're getting your knickers in such a twist. 

Lots of folk dead that arent counted in the daily numbers.

Yet you seem to have interpreted it as some dig at you.

Feel free to do so, but I can assure you it wasn't.

Not at all, sarcasm of response aimed at the airtime given to the people mentioned ahead of the probably hundreds dead that dont appear in the daily figures. 

 

Edited April 13, 2020 by RoadRunnerFan

[Sweep]

7 minutes ago, Mr Grey said:

I doubt its correct, but with all this time on our hands you read more and it gets you thinking. It's a funny world we live in today and nothing surprises me.

I did read one the other day that suggested it was a US manufactured virus, that the Chinese had stolen and redeveloped, which is why China had less deaths) as they had "type A" which was the original strain... The rest of the world sadly has the worse "type B" version, which is a modified/mutated version (so basically the Chinese tinkered with it) . Our something like that anyway.....

[Morizio]

5 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

If the police turned up at my door and wanted in they would need to show me that they had the correct powers to come in. Not for any other reason than if they’ve no right to be coming in they don’t come in. If they’ve a right to be there than as per the law I can’t stop it. 
 

I certainly wouldn’t be filming it mind. 

I would film it. It’s evidence. 

[Escobarp]

Just now, Morizio said:

I would film it. It’s evidence. 

yeah I see why that would be useful but I’m just not in the habit of filming anything. I rarely even take photographs! 
 

 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

2 minutes ago, RoadRunnerFan said:

 

There are lots dying that aren't included in daily numbers. Whitty spoke about that today and confirmed these are accounted for by the ons (it takes a bit longer) and are freely available for anyone to look at. I didn't know that, but at least the numbers are out there.

As for those with a special mention; that's always the case, rightly or wrongly. Probably more useful now as it shows no bugger is safe irrespective of status of wealth.

[miamiwhite]

1 minute ago, Mr Grey said:

Boat full of migrants came over yesterday, they obviously don't two fucks, they would risk about of Covid-19 as long as they get to the the UK.

Five boats the other day too, must be stupid wanting to come. Even ISIS have cancelled their summer holidays here.

[miamiwhite]

2 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

yeah I see why that would be useful but I’m just not in the habit of filming anything. I rarely even take photographs! 
 

 

What if the female copper looked like Kelly Brook ?

[miamiwhite]

Just now, Mr Grey said:

Im sure ISIS are hiding out up Daubhill 

Astley Bridge mate, Daubhill are predominantly Hindus these days.

[Escobarp]

Just now, miamiwhite said:

What if the female copper looked like Kelly Brook ?

Just get it in the wank bank. Don’t need a camera for that pal 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

10 minutes ago, Spider said:

I’m pretty sure he said they’d tested 13% of care homes. Could be wrong.

Chap asked had their been a change to the 10% of care homes with cases as detailed previously.

At least that's as I heard it.

Anyway, you can get the point. Sometimes a positive approach can paint a different pic.

[miamiwhite]

Just now, Escobarp said:

Just get it in the wank bank. Don’t need a camera for that pal 

I'd have my camera and knob out mate 😊

[Tombwfc]

24 minutes ago, Biggish Dave said:

Would labour have done much different? I don’t recall anything in their manifesto promising to stock up on PPE and ventilators in their manifesto. Hindsight is wonderful.

Things might have been even worse if they had got in - more staff, same eqpt. 

 

What's Labour got to do with anything?

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Just now, miamiwhite said:

I'd have my camera and knob out mate 😊

Don't suppose you can be nicked for masturbating in your own home.