Coronavirus

[Spider]

5 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

The ons figures inevitably will take longer to get together. They are now being produced.

Not sure what there is to get a grip of now.

We all know that the figures are going to be higher, but it's not possible to put both figures for the same day out together.

 

When I say get a grip, I mean the PM or Raab need to explain what figures they are putting out. Not blaming them, I know they are under loads of pressure from the media & public, but they need to prepare everyone for a few leaps in the figures.

Most of us understand the difficulties, but it's the cunts in the press who will jump up and down and spread more panic amongst the proles.

[L/H White]

3 week lockdown extension to be announced tomorrow?

[Spider]

18 minutes ago, L/H White said:

3 week lockdown extension to be announced tomorrow?

Would imagine so.

If we can get to May and the numbers are dropping every day (with testing increasing) I think that will be decent. 7/10 etc..

Most people have done 4 weeks, I think we can all suffer 3 more and then start to venture out carefully again.

[gonzo]

Anyone else just click the last page of this thread to check on the death total and how long the pubs are shut?

[radcliffe white]

6 minutes ago, Mr Grey said:

Will do for me 👌

3 more is manageable 

all the close season house jobs done now 

fencing ordered but 2 week wait 

[Escobarp]

1 hour ago, L/H White said:

3 week lockdown extension to be announced tomorrow?

Be very surprised if anything different. Although if you notice we aren’t putting dates on it like other countries. What we are saying is we are locked down and they will review every 3 weeks slightly different than saying we are locked down until x day 

[ProfessorWoland]

Just now, Escobarp said:

Be very surprised if anything different. Although if you notice we aren’t putting dates on it like other countries. What we are saying is we are locked down and they will review every 3 weeks slightly different than saying we are locked down until x day 

It feels like a strategy recommended by the behavioural science unit. Give people a date to look towards, which will help cement support for the measures but don't commit to it in case the situation at the point doesn't allow the lockdown to be lifted. 

[Morizio]

1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

This is getting hard work.

How would they know there was no gathering?

This is a perverse argument.

Put it another way, four strangers have got into your home. You've called the bobbies before they've attacked you.

They turn up and knock on the door, and you don't answer.

So they just fuck off because they can't see you bleeding out on your kitchen floor, with a 9 inch kitchen knife stuck squarely into your liver.

It’s hard work because you are entrenched in your opinion. 

Instead of inventing imaginary scenarios, stick to the video. There was no gathering. It can’t be made any simpler than that.

Have you read the act and seen where it gives them a power of entry?

The only bit I can see is where they are supporting health professionals. 

[L/H White]

56 minutes ago, radcliffewhite1 said:

3 more is manageable 

all the close season house jobs done now 

fencing ordered but 2 week wait 

reckon i can get soil and turf delivered?

[birch-chorley]

39 minutes ago, L/H White said:

reckon i can get soil and turf delivered?

Materials are thin on the ground everywhere now 

I’ve got 2 tonne of building sand at mine that the father in law is begging for 

The whole construction industry will grind to a halt soon the way these materials are going 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

2 minutes ago, birch-chorley said:

Materials are thin on the ground everywhere now 

I’ve got 2 tonne of building sand at mine that the father in law is begging for 

The whole construction industry will grind to a halt soon the way these materials are going 

Bannister Hall landscaping supplies are delivering. Up near Preston.

I had a delivery of 2 tonnes of mot, I tonnes of grit sand, and some bags of cement last week.

[Zico]

45 minutes ago, L/H White said:

reckon i can get soil and turf delivered?

we've managed it, soil being put down this week, grass to turn up this weekend

[L/H White]

2 minutes ago, ZicoKelly said:

we've managed it, soil being put down this week, grass to turn up this weekend

doing it yourself?

ive been going round in circles witht the garden, couldnt decide on artifical or turf

[Zico]

Just now, L/H White said:

doing it yourself?

ive been going round in circles witht the garden, couldnt decide on artifical or turf

fuck

that

DIY

don't involve yourself

[jeep]

3 hours ago, Spider said:

So the figures being announced by PHE every day are around 50% lower than deaths given as having been caused by CV19?

Someone needs to get a grip of it.

 

3 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

The ons figures inevitably will take longer to get together. They are now being produced.

Not sure what there is to get a grip of now.

We all know that the figures are going to be higher, but it's not possible to put both figures for the same day out together.

 

 

3 hours ago, Spider said:

When I say get a grip, I mean the PM or Raab need to explain what figures they are putting out. Not blaming them, I know they are under loads of pressure from the media & public, but they need to prepare everyone for a few leaps in the figures.

Most of us understand the difficulties, but it's the cunts in the press who will jump up and down and spread more panic amongst the proles.

Spider, they've mentioned and explained this 2 or 3 times on the daily briefing that they do about 5pm. Its been one of the science bods that have stated that the ONS is a few days/weeks behind the daily figures that are announced.

 

[Guest Nordkurve]

15 hours ago, Mr Grey said:

I doubt its correct, but with all this time on our hands you read more and it gets you thinking. It's a funny world we live in today and nothing surprises me.

Shanghai was definitely in lockdown and had the Virus. We fly daily Cargo flights there and even they got stopped for a few weeks. When we restarted we had to fly via Seoul-Incheon in Korea and make a Crew change so that the Crew that went in to Shanghai could stay in the Cockpit and then fly direct back to Germany. No person in Shanghai had access to the Cockpit. Whole area outside the Cockpit before the Cargo compartment (Supernumerary area) fully disinfected prior to departure, and again on arrival back here before we could go anywhere near the inside of the Aircraft. Similar but not quite as extreme with the Hong Kong flights. Things are back to normal with regards the Shanghai flights now although still disinfected on arrival, and new flights now also from Shenzhen. At this time I would say that there has been a big switch in flights. The likes of Dubai, and Bangalore in India have been scaled back to pave the way for more flights from China. Passenger Aircraft are also performing Cargo only flights from China, full of medical supplies like Masks and Gowns.

I read a lot of stories about profiteering by Chinese companies at the moment. My info from the Company I work for is that it’s false info and that most of this stuff is being donated by China.

[Good Knee]

I will apologise now if this as been covered but can anyone tell me in simple layman's terms and without a graph just how many more people are dying per day than normally die each day .Am I right in thinking the daily average is 1400, I appreciate the seasonal discrepancy but how many more are curling their toes up now than normal?? Thanks 

[birch-chorley]

38 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Bannister Hall landscaping supplies are delivering. Up near Preston.

I had a delivery of 2 tonnes of mot, I tonnes of grit sand, and some bags of cement last week.

Passed that on, thanks 

[Good Knee]

1 minute ago, birch-chorley said:

Passed that on, thanks 

Easy Lawn Kearsley are trading 😎

[Sweep]

6 minutes ago, Good Knee said:

I will apologise now if this as been covered but can anyone tell me in simple layman's terms and without a graph just how many more people are dying per day than normally die each day .Am I right in thinking the daily average is 1400, I appreciate the seasonal discrepancy but how many more are curling their toes up now than normal?? Thanks 

There's an article on the BBC today that explains it quite simply: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52278825

Apparently we're seeing a lot more deaths now than we would expect to (no surprise really)

[Sweep]

11 minutes ago, Nordkurve said:

. Passenger Aircraft are also performing Cargo only flights from China, full of medical supplies like Masks and Gowns.

I read a lot of stories about profiteering by Chinese companies at the moment. My info from the Company I work for is that it’s false info and that most of this stuff is being donated by China.

We had around 4000 face masks (single use) once sent to us free of charge by our suppliers - we've obviously given these to local care homes and surgeries etc.

As for flights, I'm currently involved in getting some stuff together for ventilators - product that usually takes around 16 weeks to manufacture, we're getting down in around 10 days, it's amazing. The first lot of products, just 480pcs, was shipped from Shenzhen to Shanghai yesterday, and today will be getting on a commercial/passenger flight, run by BA to Heathrow, either this evening or tomorrow morning. It's costing around 10 times the usual freight cost, but it's the only way we can guarantee an exact delivery date

[Spider]

I ordered guitar strings off amazon yesterday and they turned up this morning.

I smell a rat.

[Good Knee]

11 minutes ago, Sweep said:

There's an article on the BBC today that explains it quite simply: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52278825

Apparently we're seeing a lot more deaths now than we would expect to (no surprise really)

Thanks for that .

[Zico]

20 minutes ago, Good Knee said:

I will apologise now if this as been covered but can anyone tell me in simple layman's terms and without a graph just how many more people are dying per day than normally die each day .Am I right in thinking the daily average is 1400, I appreciate the seasonal discrepancy but how many more are curling their toes up now than normal?? Thanks 

I'm not sure you can do it without a graph, but this was an interesting article on it

https://medium.com/wintoncentre/how-much-normal-risk-does-covid-represent-4539118e1196

my attempt at laymans terms as I understand it:

- 600,000 people die a year in the UK (a daily average of 1643)

- if we'd done absolutely nothing, 80% of the population would have got infected, and 510,000 would die

so could've meant a years worth of risk in two weeks or something

so instead it's all spread out, and we could then limit it to 20,000

so the daily average would be 1,698

however

we have 900+ deaths a day

so the average thing doesn't really work

 

edit: just seen sweeps post, probably a better answer, but still requires a graph

Edited April 14, 2020 by ZicoKelly

[radcliffe white]

1 hour ago, L/H White said:

reckon i can get soil and turf delivered?

Yes but prepared to wait 

wickes are running on a week delivery depending on postcode