Coronavirus

[radcliffe white]

1 hour ago, birch-chorley said:

Materials are thin on the ground everywhere now 

I’ve got 2 tonne of building sand at mine that the father in law is begging for 

The whole construction industry will grind to a halt soon the way these materials are going 

Building another wing on the mansion? 

[miamiwhite]

Well, I'm investing in glass coffins

Will it take off ?

Remains to be seen.

[L/H White]

4 minutes ago, radcliffewhite1 said:

Yes but prepared to wait 

wickes are running on a week delivery depending on postcode 

 

aye, my click and collect from b&q was 6 days

[Casino]

6 minutes ago, ZicoKelly said:

 

- if we'd done absolutely nothing, 80% of the population would have got infected, and 510,000 would die

 

Keeping it to easy numbers...

The 500k

Im guessing thats based on 1% of the population needing to be hospitalised and them all not surviving, plenty because there wouldnt be beds?

[Zico]

3 minutes ago, Casino said:

Keeping it to easy numbers...

The 500k

Im guessing thats based on 1% of the population needing to be hospitalised and them all not surviving, plenty because there wouldnt be beds?

it's all based on the Imperial College report

https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/imperial-college/medicine/mrc-gida/2020-03-16-COVID19-Report-9.pdf

In total, in an unmitigated epidemic, we would predict approximately 510,000 deaths in GB and 2.2 million in the US, not accounting for the potential negative effects of health systems being overwhelmed on mortality. 

For an uncontrolled epidemic, we predict critical care bed capacity would be exceeded as early as the second week in April, with an eventual peak in ICU or critical care bed demand that is over 30 times greater than the maximum supply in both countries

I think that answers your question, but if not you should find the answer in that report

[Spider]

800 ish today.

Flat.

[London Wanderer]

11 hours ago, jayjayoghani said:

I was wondering about this earlier, trying to think of the best leader of my lifetime best suited to the current crisis. And be apolitical about it.

Of the Tories, probably Thatcher. She was originally a scientist I think so would have looked at the evidence. Also makes tough decisions and I bet would have locked down earlier. 

From Labour, probably Gordon Brown. His dour manner and realism people would appreciate I think. Pre-2000 Blair too when his popularity still high. 

That said, saw Johnson's speech and thought he came across really well. The delayed lockdown and PPE issues though. History won't judge him well if we do become the worst affected Western country after the USA. 

Kind of agree with you on those two choices... Though I'm not sure how much Thatcher would have been willing to give to support all the recently unemployed. But I reckon she would have realised that she had no choice. 

Churchill would have caught it I reckon- & no way that fella would have survived. 

The opposition leader that never was - David Milliband- might have handled the whole thing pretty well. 

Johnson's speech was humbling. But it all depends on whether it turns out to be just soppy shite or he actually acts on it. It all means nothing if he abandons EU citizens working here and doesn't treat the NHS right over the next couple of years. 

With the numbers that we are at now- I think they will be hoping at best to keep their reputation intact amongst voters and bounce back in decent time. Can't see them going down as national heroes- though some in that cabinet are standing out. 

Edited April 14, 2020 by London Wanderer

[L/H White]

4 minutes ago, Spider said:

800 ish today.

Flat.

Quote

Fifty-eight of those patients - aged between 38 and 96 - had no known underlying health conditions.

London recorded the most new deaths with 206, followed by the North West with 143 and the Midlands with 109.

There were 95 in East England, 93 in the North East & Yorkshire, 73 in the South East and 25 in the South West.

 

[Sweep]

18 minutes ago, Spider said:

800 ish today.

Flat.

That's a "good" thing then I suppose, as no massive acceleration in the numbers yet, and we must be getting to close to where the lock down starts to take effect - hopefully we can maintain this sort of number for a few more days, which sounds a very ghoulish thing to say I appreciate, and then start to see numbers start to reduce. Are we supposed to be at peak yet, or is that supposedly still to come?

[Spider]

1 minute ago, Sweep said:

That's a "good" thing then I suppose, as no massive acceleration in the numbers yet, and we must be getting to close to where the lock down starts to take effect - hopefully we can maintain this sort of number for a few more days, which sounds a very ghoulish thing to say I appreciate, and then start to see numbers start to reduce. Are we supposed to be at peak yet, or is that supposedly still to come?

Depends who you read/ask.

Medical folk I know are saying the next 5-6 days are going to see the worst numbers, then the distancing will start to take effect.

But go on Twitter, BBC and there are people saying we're still 10 days from the peak.

What if it holds steady at around 750 for a week or two with no increase or decrease though?

[Sweep]

1 minute ago, Spider said:

 

What if it holds steady at around 750 for a week or two with no increase or decrease though?

I'd expect tomorrow to be a high number, the last couple of weeks there has been a lag after the weekend....

 

Fingers crossed it holds steady, I'd not hold my breath though (especially as I can't at the minute, as my lung capacity is utterly fucked 😄)

[ZiggyStardust]

23 minutes ago, Spider said:

Depends who you read/ask.

Medical folk I know are saying the next 5-6 days are going to see the worst numbers, then the distancing will start to take effect.

But go on Twitter, BBC and there are people saying we're still 10 days from the peak.

What if it holds steady at around 750 for a week or two with no increase or decrease though?

Isuppose it depends on the defination of peak.

peak number of deaths.

peak of ICU admissions

peak number of admissions to hospitals.

peak number of new confirmed cases.

 

As the above 4 will probably happen at staggered stages

[Casino]

GPs were told their peak was last weekend

They opened

It was dead

Now advised back end of this week

So deaths, some time next fortnight id say

[Casino]

Or maybe its been and gone

Maybe we have all had it

So much guesswork

[Wanderlust]

1 hour ago, Spider said:

I ordered guitar strings off amazon yesterday and they turned up this morning.

I smell a rat.

Probably just the whiff of super slinky balls.

[Alf Hartigan]

6 minutes ago, Casino said:

Or maybe its been and gone

Maybe we have all had it

So much guesswork

Loads been tested in care homes last few days in Bolton. Most coming back negative 

[Wanderlust]

UK economy to take an absolute battering according to the OBR.

Worst since the Great Depression apparently. Double whammy with Brexit looming. Hope you've all got plenty in the piggy bank folks.

[London Wanderer]

Apparently the countries managing the crisis most effectively all have something in common. 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/avivahwittenbergcox/2020/04/13/what-do-countries-with-the-best-coronavirus-reponses-have-in-common-women-leaders/#578f6b7a3dec

Who would you most want to play battlenips with ? 

[jeep]

1 minute ago, London Wanderer said:

Apparently the countries managing the crisis most effectively all have something in common. 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/avivahwittenbergcox/2020/04/13/what-do-countries-with-the-best-coronavirus-reponses-have-in-common-women-leaders/#578f6b7a3dec

Who would you most want to play battlenips with ? 

Finland & Iceland please 👍

[dusan nikolic]

9 minutes ago, Alf Hartigan said:

Loads been tested in care homes last few days in Bolton. Most coming back negative 

2 miles away from my house in Notts , a care home for dementia patients as just announced 9 residents have died from it , that is around a third of the total residents. It's sent a few shockwaves around our village .

 

[HomerJay]

as of 14/04..

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

[Farrelli]

6 minutes ago, Hoppy510 said:

UK economy to take an absolute battering according to the OBR.

Worst since the Great Depression apparently. Double whammy with Brexit looming. Hope you've all got plenty in the piggy bank folks.

Project fear. 

[Sweep]

8 minutes ago, Hoppy510 said:

UK economy to take an absolute battering according to the OBR.

Worst since the Great Depression apparently. Double whammy with Brexit looming. Hope you've all got plenty in the piggy bank folks.

no shock there really, and a whole host of other countries will be in the same boat - it's all about how we bounce back from it really

[Sweep]

2 minutes ago, HomerJay said:

as of 14/04..

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

I'm amazed the US is only up 14 people, surely that can't be right, you don't go from well over 1000 people each day to just 14 surely

[HomerJay]

1 minute ago, Sweep said:

I'm amazed the US is only up 14 people, surely that can't be right, you don't go from well over 1000 people each day to just 14 surely

+71 now.

seems to be updated live per state https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/